QB 2025

[Born2Steel]

Getting Stafford would be an all-in move. We are SB or bust this season move.

If Stafford cost a 1st and $50M for one season, and we put number 7 in the trophy case, is it worth it? Who's complaining?

Same cost and we make the AFCCG? Would that be worth it?

I don't think chasing the elusive playoff win would be a worthwhile use of those resources. But some of you may. What is the break even point for that deal?

[Dwinsgames]

Getting Stafford would be an all-in move. We are SB or bust this season move.

If Stafford cost a 1st and $50M for one season, and we put number 7 in the trophy case, is it worth it? Who's complaining?

Same cost and we make the AFCCG? Would that be worth it?

I don't think chasing the elusive playoff win would be a worthwhile use of those resources. But some of you may. What is the break even point for that deal?

anything short of a SB win isnt worth hurting the future IMO ...

even at the cost of a 2nd round pick ...thats players such as these .

Zach Frazier
JPJ
Keeanu Benton
George Pickens
Muth

per example ......

Personally that is a lot to gamble away for acquisition of a 37 year old QB who wants a new deal worth 50 million a year with no guarantee that you win anything .... hell could be like Aaron Rodgers 1st year with Jets and 1st series of week 1 he is lost for the year ...

[ETL]

considering we are several pieces away from truly contending is it worth it ??

I mean a 2nd round pick even is a really nice player in the draft and 50 million cap space is likely 2-3 more nice players at that point you are maybe a QB away and next years draft potentially has a half dozen 1st round QBs .... that IMO is when you go get one ...

for me I buy a lottery ticket on Fields and see if he can be the guy he was drafted to be , in other words give him the keys to the offense and let him drive if he fails we are in line for a better draft pick to get that QB of the future ..... if he succeeds we wont need to go get one we will have found him already in Fields ...for me its a win win as long as all the guaranteed money is dealt with in year 1 of the contract ... 3 years 80 million with 20 million guaranteed

I’m sure that we don’t have a QB but as for “several” pieces - I don’t know. I think many teams that win SB were several pieces away at the beginning of the season. Tampa wasn’t a complete team before Brady arrived.

im more and more of a believer that a legit QB makes all the difference.

as for blowing our wad for Stafford - I’m on the fence. In the past I never would have even considered it - never. But I am just tired wallowing in purgatory so that is why it’s even thought about.

this is why Cleveland blew their wad with Watson. They know the pain of QB purgatory. We are newbies to this so we still think let’s be careful and hope that a QB falls into our lap somewhere.

as for Fields - I will root for him if that is the route the Steelers go. But my eyes did not deceive me. There was a definite improvement in the passing game when Wilson replaced him. And I just don’t see a 5th year QB suddenly turn something on now that wasn’t there before. That is why I hesitate. Unfortunately when I see Fields I see more time in purgatory.

[Dwinsgames]

I’m sure that we don’t have a QB but as for “several” pieces - I don’t know. I think many teams that win SB were several pieces away at the beginning of the season. Tampa wasn’t a complete team before Brady arrived.

im more and more of a believer that a legit QB makes all the difference.

as for blowing our wad for Stafford - I’m on the fence. In the past I never would have even considered it - never. But I am just tired wallowing in purgatory so that is why it’s even thought about.

this is why Cleveland blew their wad with Watson. They know the pain of QB purgatory. We are newbies to this so we still think let’s be careful and hope that a QB falls into our lap somewhere.

as for Fields - I will root for him if that is the route the Steelers go. But my eyes did not deceive me. There was a definite improvement in the passing game when Wilson replaced him. And I just don’t see a 5th year QB suddenly turn something on now that wasn’t there before. That is why I hesitate. Unfortunately when I see Fields I see more time in purgatory.

fair enough , we wont all agree on how to get to the promised land we just all want to get there ...

next years QB draft class is supposed to be special and I personally would like to be a player in that pool ( doesn't mean it will turn out as planned)

[tube517]

So you admit that YOU are the one who wants to post about Pickett? Just like I said.

P.S. You mean that I can post about Pickett if I want to? Do the Good Ol' Boys know about this?

LOL

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[Steeler-in-west]

Getting Stafford would be an all-in move. We are SB or bust this season move.

If Stafford cost a 1st and $50M for one season, and we put number 7 in the trophy case, is it worth it? Who's complaining?

Same cost and we make the AFCCG? Would that be worth it?

I don't think chasing the elusive playoff win would be a worthwhile use of those resources. But some of you may. What is the break even point for that deal?

Super Bowl Appearance at least.

[Born2Steel]

Super Bowl Appearance at least.

I think of we made the AFCCG it would show we are a franchise QB away from being in the conversation.

[Steeler-in-west]

I think of we made the AFCCG it would show we are a franchise QB away from being in the conversation.

but with a Qb pushing 40? That AfCCG might be our high point. At least if we got to the big show with Stafford, might feel a little better about it. Were mortgaging the future by bringing him on. That franchise Qb might not be as easy to get with us being a steadily declining playoff team

[Born2Steel]

but with a Qb pushing 40? That AfCCG might be our high point. At least if we got to the big show with Stafford, might feel a little better about it. Were mortgaging the future by bringing him on. That franchise Qb might not be as easy to get with us being a steadily declining playoff team

True. But also, if we know the QB is not the problem for 1 season, it could help better assess team needs.

[EzraTank]

Getting Stafford would be an all-in move. We are SB or bust this season move.

If Stafford cost a 1st and $50M for one season, and we put number 7 in the trophy case, is it worth it? Who's complaining?

Same cost and we make the AFCCG? Would that be worth it?

I don't think chasing the elusive playoff win would be a worthwhile use of those resources. But some of you may. What is the break even point for that deal?

This team is not just Stafford away from #7 or the AFCCG. They also need another legit WR, and someone to replace Najee Harris and probably line help on both sides of the ball. There is no way in hell at age 37 that Stafford is worth a #1 pick. If the Rams can fleece someone into that, good for them.

[steelcityboyz]

First off if we get Stafford who is he going to throw the ball to? Pickens is the only reciever worth a half a shit. QBs need weapons to succeed we only have one when he's not doing the diva thing.

[Born2Steel]

This team is not just Stafford away from #7 or the AFCCG. They also need another legit WR, and someone to replace Najee Harris and probably line help on both sides of the ball. There is no way in hell at age 37 that Stafford is worth a #1 pick. If the Rams can fleece someone into that, good for them.

The question is asking, for the price mentioned, what is your break even point. I'm not saying we are a Stafford away. It was mentioned earlier in this thread that Stafford wanted $50M and the Rams want a first in trade. Would that be a SB or bust move or where is your break even at that price?

[Born2Steel]

First off if we get Stafford who is he going to throw the ball to? Pickens is the only reciever worth a half a shit. QBs need weapons to succeed we only have one when he's not doing the diva thing.

Not sure I understand your question. GP, CA3, PF, Wash, Roman Wilson, FA, draft pick. But that really isn't the point of my question. My question is if the Steelers made that move (100% hypothetical), what level of success/payoff equals the cost. In your opinion of course. There are no right or wrong answers.

[EzraTank]

The question is asking, for the price mentioned, what is your break even point. I'm not saying we are a Stafford away. It was mentioned earlier in this thread that Stafford wanted $50M and the Rams want a first in trade. Would that be a SB or bust move or where is your break even at that price?

In that case, I would say if the RAMS take a 3rd round pick and we sign him for 1-2 years with it being front loaded and an opt out for 2026 then I would be okay. But I'm not giving up any picks higher then a 3rd round for a guy that old. The CAP did just go up $22 million so a short term deal for Stafford could work but we would need to get a legit #2 WR for him to throw to, plus we also have to sign a RB to replace Najee Harris and continue to build our OL.

Cooper Kupp would be interesting and he's signed through 2026 but his CAP hits are crazy at $29/$27 million the next two years. Would the Steelers do a larger deal for both guys?

[Born2Steel]

In that case, I would say if the RAMS take a 3rd round pick and we sign him for 1-2 years with it being front loaded and an opt out for 2026 then I would be okay. But I'm not giving up any picks higher then a 3rd round for a guy that old. The CAP did just go up $22 million so a short term deal for Stafford could work but we would need to get a legit #2 WR for him to throw to, plus we also have to sign a RB to replace Najee Harris and continue to build our OL.

Cooper Kupp would be interesting and he's signed through 2026 but his CAP hits are crazy at $29/$27 million the next two years. Would the Steelers do a larger deal for both guys?

First, let me say I'm glad someone else wants to keep building the OL.

Kupp... I'm much less interested in signing him at any price, let alone his current cap hit numbers. He has been the walking wounded the past 2-3 seasons. I don't trust what he has left to offer. Let the Rams dig their own way out of that hole.

There are several legit Wr1/Wr2 in this draft. We have Roman Wilson who is supposed to be something to look forward to.

I'm not what you would call even remotely 'high' on the idea of bringing in one of these aging veteran QBs. BUT, the idea of Stafford/Rodgers throwing to GP regularly, is intriguing.

[ETL]

Apparently Derek Carr will stay with the Saints. He’s out of the pool. It’s amazing how there are so few great QBs that even having a mildly good one means that you have to try hard to keep them

[EzraTank]

Giants and Raiders are the only two teams Stafford has talked to, so apparently the Steelers are not part of the Stafford hype.

Good, let's sign Fields, finish 5-12 and get a QB next year in the draft! And before everyone freaks out and asks, "Do you want to lose?" ... no I do not but I will ACCEPT losing if it means we can actually land a QB in 2026.

[pczach]

Giants and Raiders are the only two teams Stafford has talked to, so apparently the Steelers are not part of the Stafford hype.

Good, let's sign Fields, finish 5-12 and get a QB next year in the draft! And before everyone freaks out and asks, "Do you want to lose?" ... no I do not but I will ACCEPT losing if it means we can actually land a QB in 2026.

On the NFL Network this morning they were talking about the Stafford situation. I forget which insider said it, but he said that when this first started, there was talk about the Steelers interest. Since then, there hasn't been much talk of the Steelers and their interest in Stafford.

Maybe they are no longer considering a trade for Stafford, or they have backed off because of the compensation the Rams are asking for him.

It's really hard to know. All we hear are whispers and we don't really know the Steelers' intent.

[Born2Steel]

Giants and Raiders are the only two teams Stafford has talked to, so apparently the Steelers are not part of the Stafford hype.

Good, let's sign Fields, finish 5-12 and get a QB next year in the draft! And before everyone freaks out and asks, "Do you want to lose?" ... no I do not but I will ACCEPT losing if it means we can actually land a QB in 2026.

What if 12-5 happens instead?

[Mojouw]

I suspect that Stafford was never really looking to get traded. The Rams let him start having discussions to increase their negotiation position. Basically: "Cool, bro. Go find out what being an old QB on a losing team looks like. Then come back here and consider taking a few million less to not get beat to crap and win some meaningful games. Talk soon."

[Steeler-in-west]

What over the hill 35+ Qb has ever restarted their career on another team and had success? I think its rare, and its a fools errand on the part of the new team to take them on, since they will likely cost an arm and a leg. Unless the team is so complete that the once great Qb becomes just needs to be a game manager like Peyton Manning. Even Montana had brief and limited success with KC. We just don't have the complete team to gamble on an aging once great Qb. We wasted enough time with Wilson. Time to look to Fields maybe at least for this year and the draft and build up deficient areas on the team at the same time.

[Born2Steel]

How many over 35 franchise QBs have changed teams? Manning, Brady, Russ, Montana, have there been others? SB era guys.

[ALLD]

Stick with Fields and build both lines to give him time to look for receivers downfield. Add a good WR and feature RB too. If Philly stays healthy nobody is beating them anyway.

[steelcityboyz]

Stick with Fields and build both lines to give him time to look for receivers downfield. Add a good WR and feature RB too. If Philly stays healthy nobody is beating them anyway.

Post of the day! I agree whole heartily.

[EzraTank]

What if 12-5 happens instead?

Can I get a winning lottery ticket thrown in this as well because the odds are probably about the same.

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What over the hill 35+ Qb has ever restarted their career on another team and had success? I think its rare, and its a fools errand on the part of the new team to take them on, since they will likely cost an arm and a leg. Unless the team is so complete that the once great Qb becomes just needs to be a game manager like Peyton Manning. Even Montana had brief and limited success with KC. We just don't have the complete team to gamble on an aging once great Qb. We wasted enough time with Wilson. Time to look to Fields maybe at least for this year and the draft and build up deficient areas on the team at the same time.

See Tom Brady Superbowl win in Tampa. Outside of that none. Farve had a good run in Minnesota then turned into Farve in the playoffs and literally threw it all away.

[Dwinsgames]

Farve had a good run in Minnesota then turned into Farve in the playoffs and literally threw it all away.

if you recall that was Bountygate and Fave and the Vikings were cheated out of that game or they go to the SB

[oneforthetoe]

I'm starting to feel the vibe that it is going to be Wilson. The rumors seem to be that Tomlin and Art II want Wilson while Khan and others (Smith) want Justin. Of course, rumors are just that. Still, that does make some sense. Tomlin wants to break that playoff loss streak before he rides of into the sunset and probably figures that Wilson, if he is healthy at the end of the season, gives him the best chance to do that. I could definitely see Smith and Khan wanting to try the younger guy. Smith almost certainly sees Fields as better suited for his offense. FWIW, Art II is probably just backing the horse he is still betting on.

I will be disappointed if it is Wilson over Fields. I just want to see Fields in Smith's offense with a heavy does of RPO's. Even if he ultimately fails, at least we will get a good look at Smith's offense the way should look. That said, we probably have the same ceiling with Wilson, Justin, Rodgers, or any of the twenty quarterbacks we have been rumored to acquire - a playoff win if everything goes our way and/or we get a favorable matchup.

Our prospect won't get any higher than that until we draft our next great QB (unless Fields just explodes, or Wilson has a rebirth - both prospect of which are slim)

[Dwinsgames]

The way Wilson threw Smith under the bus and the team not replacing Smith I find it hard to fathom Wilson returns ... but I have been shocked before

[oneforthetoe]

The way Wilson threw Smith under the bus and the team not replacing Smith I find it hard to fathom Wilson returns ... but I have been shocked before

I am usually wrong when it comes to these types of predictions. I hope I am again. I would rather watch Fields play next year even if he struggles. At least for a while I will be confident that the ship will be righted. I could see a compromise where we sign Fields and then go look for a veteran QB to compete on the cheap presumably as a backup.

[Dwinsgames]

I am usually wrong when it comes to these types of predictions. I hope I am again. I would rather watch Fields play next year even if he struggles. At least for a while I will be confident that the ship will be righted. I could see a compromise where we sign Fields and then go look for a veteran QB to compete on the cheap presumably as a backup.

at least with Fields we can be sure there will be some excitement to go with the depression ...Wilson not so much