i tend to keep Brady out of my mind. Like he was some weird anomaly, who benefited from the rules protecting Qb’s. When Lambert said “put a dress on them” i think he was of referring to guys just like Brady.Originally Posted by EzraTank
i tend to keep Brady out of my mind. Like he was some weird anomaly, who benefited from the rules protecting Qb’s. When Lambert said “put a dress on them” i think he was of referring to guys just like Brady.
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Reports from the likes of Ian Rapoport, Jeremy Fowler, DK sports, is that Justin Fields has the lead in the QB race to be re-signed.
So we'll see. On the 10th, teams and free agents can talk(and sign deals). So if Fields is the guy, expect a deal to happen by the end of the week.
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It has to be Fields. Who else is there?
Sam Darnold but probably will be Fields.
Of course. Every QB move that the Steelers have made since Ben retired has been wrong, and this will continue the streak.
At this point I just want Tomlin to lay an egg and swallow a 4-13 season so we can have a shot at a legit QB in the 2026 draft.
Yes, I'm that jaded. I'm so sick of coach .501.
But the QB class next year may also be bad, or questionable? which at this moment it is.
They can win and also go trade (up) for a QB.
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
You posted an article without commenting on it. Isn't that what got hawaiiansteeler in trouble?
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That's the eternal question. We sit in the spot today of only having Skylar Thompson in the QB room once the new league year starts. We have options of either re-signing Fields or Russ, signing a different FA veteran, trading away a stockpile of capital to move up in this draft to get one of the 2 favorite QB prospects, or draft a QB in a later round in this years draft. Or some combination of those options.
Trading for a QB can only get someone who has been in a backup role. We have no weapons to entice them here, and can't promise the OL can protect them. No current starter is coming into that situation voluntarily.
So what do the Steelers do? There are options. There are opinions. We will just have to wait and see what happens. I know a lot of fans get frustrated, but I find this part of the year exciting and fun.
Personally, just my opinion on our current state of the team. I would re-sign Fields. He's not the better right now option between him and Russ, he's the younger/cheaper option and better for the future. Draft a QB in the 2nd/3rd/4th round hoping to luck into the next big thing. I call it the lottery option. Just buy a ticket and see what happens.
Dark horse idea. Smith drafted Dez Ridder. Maybe he is a trade option that Smith likes to run his offense? I saw Ridder several times in person when Memphis and Cincinnati would play. I was not impressed by him. But what do I know about QBs?
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Not an overly impressive list as of today, to me. We shall see.
It seems that Fields wants to test free agency. Probably a smart move on his part. Not a lot of free agent QB's this year so that may work in his favor. I have read a few stories that his Agent is notorious for dragging things out. This does not work in our favor. And honestly after starting off well and then getting pulled for Russ and then watching Russ struggle at the end and not even getting a shot he may be a little jaded.
Russ is not the option. I would rather draft a rookie and take our chances with them. Russ just does not have much left in the tank. when you go back and watch his tape its very obvious that once you take away the outside rainbow throw he doesn't have much to work with. Even with the line not being great he had options for throws but always seemed hesitant to rip any of the timing throws.
Born2steel is right no good QB is coming here either in free agency or trade. we don't have weapons, We dont have a QB friendly offensive scheme. Honestly we have really screwed the pooch on how bad we have let the offense decay. Between running backs, wide receivers and Qb's we have one person under contract (pickens) that would start on other teams. We currently do not have a 1st or 2nd string QB on the roster. We do not have a 1st string RB on the roster (one would probably argue that we dont have a 2nd string either) and we have one good receiver and a bunch of unknowns. NO good QB is coming here. This is severe mismanagement of the team.
So many different options for this team to reach it's now customary barely .500 + ceiling.
Now Now, Big Mike has never had a losing season and he's going to the HOF. Just hang in there for another 15-20 seasons we just may win a playoff game and maybe another superbowl.
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Who knows what will happen next season, almost nobody thought we would be over .500 last season and we were 2 Tomlin specials away from a first round bye. I assume our OL will be better and we will probably upgrade our def backend. RB are easy to get now. I don’t think Fields is a starting QB, but if we roll with him maybe he will prove me wrong. I just want to win in the playoffs or be in a position to get our next franchise QB after next season.
what we proved last season is we can win with Fields even if he has a Governor on his engine , it was clear he didnt have the keys to unleash the offense (nor the personnel) yet he manage 4-2 and the defense lost one of those at the very end .... he is dynamic enough as a runner to keep you in pretty much every game and he made some throws that were really really good so we know he CAN do it .... the question is can he do it consistently enough .... that is the opportunity we didnt give him last year to prove one way or the other ... to many times he was handcuffed by the play calling that was designed to not lose instead of allowing Justin to go win the game ....
the latter is what I would like to see ....
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
over the last 17 played games ...
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Look at air yards. Not great.
Look at where the throws were versus the sticks on third downs.
Prior to the SB; Hurts was under intense scrutiny for the failures in the Eagles passing game.
I’m all for Justin Fields. Have been since it became clear Wilson wasn’t gonna make changes to his game.
But I’m also convinced Fields as a starter has a ceiling on it.
That being said, Fields is better than all the other options the Steelers could pull off for 2025. Pay the man and move on.
we have seen a pretty damn accurate deep ball from him too , anomaly? who knows we didnt utilize it enough to find out
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Very true.
I’m all for Fields in 2025. Certainly better than Will Howard or some other nonsense option.
After 2025? Who knows? IF he ever puts it together, Fields is a game changing player. If he never does, he’s a more exciting Tyrod Taylor.
I’d rather find out which one than watch some washed up vet or some flawed rookie.
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I’m all for taking off the cuffs on Fields. I’m not optimistic but I will be once the season rolls around.
Exactly. At this point, no more retread near retirement guys like Rodgers or Wilson. Just roll with Fields, open the full playbook up and let him try. If we end up 5-12 so be it, who knows maybe 12-5 can happen.
Yeah. For me it’s the only thing that makes sense. I share your opinion on the wide range of outcomes. But what else is gonna offer better results?
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The other thing about having Fields as your quarterback is that he is very complimentary to playing defense. He tends to pick up some first downs with his legs. The offense burns clock. The defense is protected and rested which leads to better results. Sure, Wilson made some big plays, but he also held the ball too long and took bad sacks that moved the team out of scoring range or put them in awful down and distance situations.
I'm all for signing Fields and also drafting a QB. How about they actually allow players to develop and learn. See what the quarterbacks are capable of. This nonsense of coaching to try to completely avoid risk is asinine. No quarterback can succeed or develop if they never get to truly play the position from the standpoint of being a fully operational NFL quarterback.
This team has been limiting the young quarterbacks they hope can lead them somewhere. It is counterintuitive. What's the point of having them if they never let them off the leash. They may surprise everyone a bit if given a chance. And for the love of God, the coach needs to accept that there are going to be some turnovers from a developing QB. Don't shut down the offense to avoid a couple turnovers.
They need to add a talented WR and RB, continue to build the roster, and let's see where this goes.
I dont think Tomlin and his staff want Fields or a rookie. They want another seasoned veteran who can lead them to that elusive playoff win. They want someone who can win now, they thought it was Wilson last year. This year they might try someone else like that or go back to Russ. I think Fields is more of a last option for them. Rookie? Forget it.
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I think we will all blow a collective aneurism if the Steelers announce the signing of …. Wilson.
And if that is truly the thinking of the HC and front office, it is why we continually end up .501 and either just missing the playoffs or getting blown out on the road in the first round. This team truly is stuck in the movie Groundhogs Day.
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I know you are trying to get this .501 to take off and be a thing. Problem is most of us on this forum actually do math. 10-7 is .588 and 9-8 would be .529. It's humorous I guess, but doesn't make logical sense. Just how I think.
A veteran QB actually CAN/COULD make the difference between 1 and done in the playoffs, or making a playoff run. A rookie QB CAN/COULD do the same thing. Both schools of thought have merit of all you want to do is end the playoff drought. A rookie that does that for you is usually better for the future of the franchise though since they hold the window open longer. That's not always the case but it is typical.
Fields is actually a veteran now. His rookie contract is done. I don't hate the idea of bringing him back. He's my favorite option currently. But there are other viable options. Nothing is absolute here.
We've all come to know Phil quite well.
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Tyler Shough -25 year old QB from Louisville invited for in-person visit. He is tall at 6 ft 5 in and runs faster than Shedeur Sanders with a 4.63 sec 40 time. (Sanders is 4.68).
Maybe a late round flyer on him? (Hands are average at 9.75 inches. So bigger than Kenny’s 8.5 )
forum is basically unusable for me , its all kinda wonky ability to find where to post is a needle in a haystack been this way for 2 or 3 days now ... all other websites are fine on my PC so IDK ... might be the end for me
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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