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    Re: QB 2025

    forum is basically unusable for me , its all kinda wonky ability to find where to post is a needle in a haystack been this way for 2 or 3 days now ... all other websites are fine on my PC so IDK ... might be the end for me
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    forum is basically unusable for me , its all kinda wonky ability to find where to post is a needle in a haystack been this way for 2 or 3 days now ... all other websites are fine on my PC so IDK ... might be the end for me
    Are you using Firefox? It just dropped updates that toasted older forums like this.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I know you are trying to get this .501 to take off and be a thing. Problem is most of us on this forum actually do math. 10-7 is .588 and 9-8 would be .529. It's humorous I guess, but doesn't make logical sense. Just how I think.

    A veteran QB actually CAN/COULD make the difference between 1 and done in the playoffs, or making a playoff run. A rookie QB CAN/COULD do the same thing. Both schools of thought have merit of all you want to do is end the playoff drought. A rookie that does that for you is usually better for the future of the franchise though since they hold the window open longer. That's not always the case but it is typical.

    Fields is actually a veteran now. His rookie contract is done. I don't hate the idea of bringing him back. He's my favorite option currently. But there are other viable options. Nothing is absolute here.
    I get what Ezra is saying regarding percentages. Its not much above average. Fields is a placeholder. Cant expect much from him because hes never been a prolific passer or led his team to the playoffs and on a run. Hes got talent and he may catch fire or the light bulb may turn on but we cant count on that. I think its a good option for the steelers, if he plays great were in business with a young Qb. If not, were positioned for the draft. I just dont think this is Tomlin and company’s preferred option. I think they try to go with another vet with some success (Darnold or Stafford?) so Tomlin can ride off into the sunset with his deep playoff run and for our aging vets on defense too, so they get a “real shot” at a postseason run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeT View Post
    Born2steel is right no good QB is coming here either in free agency or trade. we don't have weapons, We dont have a QB friendly offensive scheme. Honestly we have really screwed the pooch on how bad we have let the offense decay. Between running backs, wide receivers and Qb's we have one person under contract (pickens) that would start on other teams. We currently do not have a 1st or 2nd string QB on the roster. We do not have a 1st string RB on the roster (one would probably argue that we dont have a 2nd string either) and we have one good receiver and a bunch of unknowns. NO good QB is coming here. This is severe mismanagement of the team.
    But, but... I thought every player in the NFL wanted to play for Tomlin.

    Are you guys NOW starting to see why I was so upset when the Steelers swapped Pickett for Wilson?

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by EzraTank View Post
    Are you using Firefox? It just dropped updates that toasted older forums like this.
    I use Firefox and I've never had a bit of trouble. Everything here is still just fine,

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzraTank View Post
    Are you using Firefox? It just dropped updates that toasted older forums like this.
    generally use firefox , however I since tried using EDGE and it gives me this warning (site is insecure and I should avoid using it) and if I ignore the warning the site looks identical as in firefox .....


    what is truly puzzling is once I jump through the 100 hoops to make a post here and submit the post it shows the normal forum look in that entire thread ...but if I click out of that thread its back to the wonky broken forum that is nearly impossible to navigate
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    forum is basically unusable for me , its all kinda wonky ability to find where to post is a needle in a haystack been this way for 2 or 3 days now ... all other websites are fine on my PC so IDK ... might be the end for me
    I used safari for years on my phone with no problems until the latest update. Now I have to use chrome on the iPhone.

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    QB 2025

    Google search: “Allow insecure content [Browser Name] [PC/MAc/Android/iphone/etc - pick the one appropriate for you ] and follow the instructions. Problem likely solved.

    You won’t have any actual security issues. I THINK. It is just that the forums hidden backbone software is super outdated and most browsers flag it as hinky.

    Good luck.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Raiders just got Geno Smith from Seattle for 3rd round pick. That leaves a hole in Seattle. I’m thinking the early favorite is Darnold but I could see Rodgers going there also. I don’t see Fields going to Seattle but who knows. Obviously Seattle did not let go of Smith without having a plan in mind and it doesn’t seem to involve the draft so I’m curious who they have targeted. (No way Wilson goes back there)

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    Raiders just got Geno Smith from Seattle for 3rd round pick. That leaves a hole in Seattle. I’m thinking the early favorite is Darnold but I could see Rodgers going there also. I don’t see Fields going to Seattle but who knows. Obviously Seattle did not let go of Smith without having a plan in mind and it doesn’t seem to involve the draft so I’m curious who they have targeted. (No way Wilson goes back there)
    I agree it is likely Darnold.

    The coaching staff has some Minnesota connections I think. And the offensive DNA is somewhat similar.

    Guess we get to see if Young Kubiak is as smart as everyone says he is.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Our main competitor for Fields seems to be the Jets. Ultimately I guess it’s up to Fields to decide and I would not begrudge him if he took large $$$ from the jets instead of staying a Steeler for less money.

    Giants are still looking for a QB and who know if in the background they are secretly working to get Fields who I think is the best FA QB left if Darnold goes to Seattle.

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    Re: QB 2025

    I think the Steelers are firmly in the driver seat for Fields. Fields just ended his rookie contract and has never played in the same offensive system 2 seasons in a row. The Steelers offer that. Unless the offer is a cheap 6pack and a tin of last Christmas' caramel corn, I think we get Fields if we truly want him. Then the WR FAs start showing interest.

    The Seahawks have Sam Howell. No way they get rid of Smith without a plan in house. Surely??? I will guess they will make a play for one of the FA QBs, but Howell is currently their QB1 now.

    The Raiders are an interesting team to watch this offseason for me. I'm curious how much influence Tom Brady will actually have over personnel decisions.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post



    I had a similar issue about a year ago. I had to change my security settings for this site to get it to work.

    Now, occasionally the page will load and give the nonsensical look I'm assuming you are getting. If I just refresh the page it usually just corrects itself. Weird.

    Glad you're operational once again.

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    Re: QB 2025

    I'm starting to think Rodgers wouldn't be a bad idea if it brings Adams with him and solves two needs. Draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd and roll with Rodgers for this season. Rather have that than get stuck with another aging QB in Wilson and we seen those results. Also bring back Allen as a back up and kinda like him.

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    I say draft Dart if he's there. If Fields signs elsewhere. Let him play the whole season if he's dog shit then draft QB again in 26 where there is better talent. These old has been QBs unless their last name is Brady aren't going to take this team anywhere, It was proven last season.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by steelcityboyz View Post
    I say draft Dart if he's there. If Fields signs elsewhere. Let him play the whole season if he's dog shit then draft QB again in 26 where there is better talent. These old has been QBs unless their last name is Brady aren't going to take this team anywhere, It was proven last season.
    I may be getting on your bandwagon. I just saw some vids on Dart and of course he looks spectacular. His deep balls are accurate. If Fields goes to jets then Dart may be the one to get as I don’t get excited with any other FÃ QB.

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    Re: QB 2025

    if you do not have a QB then you may as well blow it up and trade away all the guys over 26 that is worth anything for future picks and rebuild with the new vision with new players
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    generally use firefox , however I since tried using EDGE and it gives me this warning (site is insecure and I should avoid using it) and if I ignore the warning the site looks identical as in firefox .....


    what is truly puzzling is once I jump through the 100 hoops to make a post here and submit the post it shows the normal forum look in that entire thread ...but if I click out of that thread its back to the wonky broken forum that is nearly impossible to navigate
    The site does not work for me when at work. At home, my Firefox has had issues with many sites saying page not found. I will never use Edge or Chrome.

    Is your Firefox update? Also, try turning off "all" extensions with Firefox then re-open the browser. Deleting cookies/cache before reloading helps too.
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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    The site does not work for me when at work. At home, my Firefox has had issues with many sites saying page not found. I will never use Edge or Chrome.

    Is your Firefox update? Also, try turning off "all" extensions with Firefox then re-open the browser. Deleting cookies/cache before reloading helps too.

    I use Ccleaner weekly clearing browser and outdated registry items etc , firefox is up to date as well ... its like it was glitched or something I posted a few times but took like 5 mins to find where to click to post it was so messed up and the one time after I clicked to post the forum was back to normal ... no idea what happened to mess it up or to make it right ...
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    if you do not have a QB then you may as well blow it up and trade away all the guys over 26 that is worth anything for future picks and rebuild with the new vision with new players
    Trent Differ says otherwise. That said we have talent but horrible coaches and no QB. So kinda agree.

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    Re: QB 2025

    dont like it but cant control it ...

    my thing is He played well 1 season in about as QB friendly system you can find and now its gonna cost 35-45 million a year to retain him and nobody is even sure if he is worth it because he has a 1 year resume ( reminds me of Picketts 5 years at Pitt , only the last season was good enough to get drafted he parlayed that and proved unworthy and we were the suckers now we gonna get suckered again it feel like)

    that is likely just how I feel your mileage may vary
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    It sure feels like we won't have a starting QB for 2025 and I guess that means they are shooting for a top pick in next year's draft.

    Do we pay Watt 130 mil guaranteed?

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    Darnold is a total waste of time

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    It sure feels like we won't have a starting QB for 2025 and I guess that means they are shooting for a top pick in next year's draft.
    They will still grind out 9 or 10 wins.

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    Re: QB 2025

    The 5 at 5 (or at 8:18 as it were):

    1) Keep Fields: For the reasons that have been mentioned and, as I have said, I think it is a good way to test Smith's offense.
    2) Russ - Yes, we know his limitations. However, I don't think any of the other F/A options will be any better.
    3) Darnold - Not that impressed with him. Probably most people would say he is better than Russ but I don't think so.
    4) Aaron Rodgers - I don't want him. He will get hurt behind out o'line early in the season. And, of course, he is a dueche bag.
    Only very minor positive thought I have for this is he knows how to use a talented WR. He might be able to help Pickens to
    the next level.
    5) Mac Jones - I had to put at least one reclamation project in there. I am only partially serious about that but I don't want to
    give up any draft capital for QB this year at all.

    All but Justin and maybe Russ are probably one-year options. Still, would rather try and stow away some draft picks for next year to get our guy then. My biggest concern with drafting Dart is that he won't start the first year, but will look just good enough for the Steelers to pass on a QB in 2026 but also not good enough to pass on a 2026 QB.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    dont like it but cant control it ...

    my thing is He played well 1 season in about as QB friendly system you can find and now its gonna cost 35-45 million a year to retain him and nobody is even sure if he is worth it because he has a 1 year resume ( reminds me of Picketts 5 years at Pitt , only the last season was good enough to get drafted he parlayed that and proved unworthy and we were the suckers now we gonna get suckered again it feel like)

    that is likely just how I feel your mileage may vary
    the problem is that the 1 year of good showing by Darnold is more than any rookie has shown and so is of value as opposed to gambling a first round pick on a QB. In other words, yes Darnold could be a fluke and suck on any other team but at least he’s shown something as opposed to anyone else out there. Even Fields doesn’t have a season to boast about like Darnold.

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    Re: QB 2025

    If Fields decides to leave, Darnold is the least worst alternative.

    I think Darnold is kinda awful. And I hope some other team makes a better offer.

    But they didn’t trade a second round pick and spend all that lettuce to have some dirtball rookie under center.

    So Darnold it is I guess?

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    If Fields decides to leave, Darnold is the least worst alternative.

    I think Darnold is kinda awful. And I hope some other team makes a better offer.

    But they didn’t trade a second round pick and spend all that lettuce to have some dirtball rookie under center.

    So Darnold it is I guess?
    Idk. Great receivers and a dirt ball aint a bad plan

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