Guessing the 9ers are trying to work out another deal with a 3rd team for a player in return.
Guessing the 9ers are trying to work out another deal with a 3rd team for a player in return.
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Why can we not pay Aiyuk and Pickens? Rookie OL and RB payscale, even paying a star QB leaves enough cash.
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Wonder how good KP could have been with BA and GP to throw to . . .
Sorry, had to add a KP post to this thread to completely derail it
Yes but what does he say about Ferris?Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
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From CBS Sports they are saying the 49ers want two #1 picks back. Sorry no way in hell I make that trade if true.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brandon-aiyuk-trade-rumors-steelers-in-mix-for-49ers-wr-san-francisco-asking-for-two-no-1-picks-per-report/
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When is the last time we paid two starting receivers on a second contract? By 2026 we will be paying Warren and Muth more. We will have to have money to start second contracts with the our offensive line in the coming years beyond 2026. I just don't see the Steelers wrapping up $50 million in cap space in two receivers. Of course, I have been wrong before a time or two. There was that time in 87. Then again, back in 84 ......
I was perfect in '87 and '84.
What did you get wrong?
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Should have never invested in that Emu farm in 87. 84? Let's just say I will never believe Orwell again.
We’ve never been trading for Aiyuk. We’ve always been trading for Aiyuk.
Damn, I accidentally made this post using my real identity.Wonder how good KP could have been with BA and GP to throw to . . .
Sorry, had to add a KP post to this thread to completely derail it
They could. It’s already proven via other teams and there will be salary cap increases.
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Nah. That’s just dumb. The Niners don’t have that kind of leverage and as a matter of fact, they probably have the absolute least amount of leverage a team could possibly have in this situation.
Aiyuk can hold out until Week 10 or whatever. Show up, “tweak an ankle” and sit out a few more weeks, get his accrued season and be on his way…all while keeping the Niners in cap hell the whole season. They try to tag him next season and they are back in the same scenario.
The trading team probably has the second most leverage because it’s where Aiyuk wants to play (which he can dictate) and they are the team bailing the Niners out of cap hell and that counts for a lot. So where ever Aiyuk really wants to go, the Niners need to make a deal with that team. If not, they deal with Aiyuk and his salary…
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IF - and that’s a big IF a verbal agreement has been agreed to with Pit and SF then I would guess it is a 2nd and 4th. And I am guessing that SF is seeing which team would give up a “quality” WR with that 4th round pick they just got.
Houston seems to have a ton of WR, KC? , Jets? Packers? Colts?
Could they be involving Davante Adams for a blockbuster deal?!?
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hell. I would give the raiders the 2nd and the 4th for Adams and bypass the 49ers
Adams can't be happy in Vegas now. He went there to play with Derrick Carr, then the Raiders dumped Carr, so Adams quietly being asked to move wouldn't shock me.
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This.
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Adams isn't Tomlins son though
Seriously I don't think the Raiders will deal with the Steelers after the last couple of trades with them
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If SF really is insisting on a first round pick then this deal is dead. Let them keep Aiyuk half-assing it through out the year to not get injured and then losing him at the end for nothing. (And paying him his 14 mil also)
if they want Pickens or Friermeuth then again the deal is dead.
omar should just stay patient and just tell SF this is the most we can give and then hang up.
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I agree.
If Khan can just stay patient, another team will give up too much or the 49ers will approach the Steelers with a more reasonable offer in time. They should not give away a first round pick or multiple picks for a WR that will be demanding close to $30 million per to a desperate team looking to get something for a player they can't afford to keep.
All this talk of first round draft picks and valuable starters being traded for him is ridiculous.
I hope they wait them out and make a reasonable deal, or I hope the deal doesn't get done. Let them lose Aiyuk at the end of the season and get zero compensation because they have to pay Purdy $60 million/per. The 49ers only have leverage if the team negotiating with them gives them that leverage by panicking. Wait them out and they will take less for him.
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Robbie Anderson just signed with 49ers. Maybe they will be ok with just the draft picks we send them now.
If Steelers offer only picks and no players to 49ers for Brandon Aiyuk, 'the deal is dead'
TIM BENZ | Thursday, Aug. 8, 2024
https://triblive.com/sports/if-steel...-deal-is-dead/
The 49ers, to this point, haven’t been satisfied with the Steelers’ offers and would like a receiver in return for Aiyuk as part of a trade, although they are open to players at other positions, league sources said.
Aug 8, 2024
https://steelersdepot.com/2024/08/re...ers-for-aiyuk/
I would throw them Calvin Austin and be done with it.
Pickens
Aiyuk
Wilson
Miller
Jefferson
Watkins
That's a pretty good group...
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Looking at the Steelers depth chart and I am not sure I would include Daniels in a deal if you're adding a player. It would have to be Austin or a different "lower level" WR.
Imagine if we didn't waste that #1 pick on Pickett. Water under the bridge ...
Now the real question ... do we even need Aiyuk? Look at the Seattle teams that went to back to back SB's with Wilson. Who was their "stud" receiver? Doug Baldwin? Jermaine Kearse? Percy Harvin (always hurt)? Golden Tate?
The current Steelers are building a team just like that, run first, pass second. I would say Pickens is light years better then any receiver the 2013-2014 Seahawks had.
Do I want Aiyuk? Absolutely, but not for a Kings ransom.
Might not have Pickens.
Very good article from CBS Sports link HERE.
An imagination is a wonderful thing. By now, Steelers fans can probably already envision Brandon Aiyuk, clad in black and gold, scoring the game-winning touchdown that delivers the franchise's seventh Super Bowl title.
Adding Aiyuk to the Steelers' roster could possibly lead to such dreams becoming a reality. Pittsburgh's roster is already better than last year's 10-7 outfit, and the 49ers' talented receiver could be the player the Steelers need to make a legitimate run at the Super Bowl.
As good as this all sounds, the recent holdups regarding a possible trade for Aiyuk have created an opportunity for some reflection, and the results of said reflections lead me to believe that the Steelers may be better off without Aiyuk.
In order, here are the reasons why passing on Aiyuk might be the better play for the Steelers in 2024 and beyond.
1. Not worth the cost
By now, it's clear that the 49ers want a king's ransom for Aiyuk. Really, this was somewhat made clear during April's draft, when the Steelers were reportedly unwilling to meet the 49ers' requests in a trade that would have included either Aiyuk or fellow 49ers wide-out Deebo Samuel.
The passing months haven't cooled the 49ers' jets when it comes to getting max value in a trade involving Aiyuk. Recent reports are suggesting that the 49ers want multiple first-round picks in addition to a wide-out capable of replacing Aiyuk. I don't know about you, but that seems like a lot of capital for a player with zero Pro Bowls on his resume.
There's also the financial commitment the Steelers would have to make to Aiyuk, who surely wants a contract that will make him among the league's top-paid players at his position. That'll surely create problems down the road, when the Steelers are inevitably faced with the prospect of paying two receivers top dollar.
2. Steelers already have a No. 1 WR
The Steelers already have a bona-fide No. 1 receiver in George Pickens, who based on his exploits during the first two weeks of training camp appears primed to have his best season yet. The third-year wide-out has extremely lofty goals for himself.
"I'm just trying to be the greatest," Pickens told me following Pittsburgh's second training camp practice.
In the same interview, Pickens gave a clear answer when asked if the Steelers need to bring in reinforcements at receiver (i.e. Aiyuk).
"Nah, I think we're good enough," Pickens said.
It's early, but it appears that Pickens may be right in his assessment. Veteran Van Jefferson has impressed basically everyone with the work he's done in camp. Rookie Roman Wilson was also showing his potential before being temporarily sidelined with an injury. Fellow wide-out Calvin Austin III has also enjoyed a solid camp.
Could the team use more depth? Probably. But that question will be answered during the preseason, when Pittsburgh's less heralded wide-outs (a group that includes veteran Scotty Miller) get a chance to show what they can do. That's why the preseason still matters.
The Steelers also have other pass catchers at other positions. Running back Jaylen Warren finished second on the team last season with 61 receptions. Pat Freiermuth caught seven touchdown passes as a rookie in 2021 and is expected to again be a focus in the red zone in 2024. Fellow tight ends Connor Heyward and Darnell Washington will also likely see increased roles in Arthur Smith's offense.
Back to Pickens for a second. While the Steelers lost a solid wide-out when they traded Diontae Johnson to the Panthers, it seems that his departure has given Pickens the opportunity to grow as a leader among Pittsburgh's receiving corps. Pickens appears to have taken advantage of that opportunity, but one wonders what would happen to the harmony of the Steelers' receiving room if Aiyuk is added into the mix.
3. Patience is a virtue
In some ways, the Steelers' current pursuit of Aiyuk is similar to a gambler chasing their bets. Pittsburgh gambled by trading Johnson, and paid for it by not replacing him with another proven veteran wide-out. But is selling the farm to get Aiyuk the best way to rectify the situation?
As already noted, the Steelers already have a No. 1 wide-out in Pickens. What Pittsburgh needs is a solid No. 2 option that will give Pickens more room to operate. There does not appear to be any outside options regarding a player like that currently, but who's to say that a relatively affordable, solid No. 2 wide-out won't be available some other time between now and Nov. 5, the league's trade deadline?
As is the case every year around that time, good players will be available via a trade from teams that are looking to be sellers. Pittsburgh could end up getting a good wide-out at a good price with half a season left to play. By then, the Steelers will know whether or not outside receiver help is needed.
There's also the chance that a better trade option arises much sooner than that, especially as teams go through the preseason. The Broncos, a team that on paper appears to have depth at wide-out, might be willing to part ways with one of their receivers for the right price (Tim Patrick is a possible candidate here if he proves that he is healthy).
Pittsburgh could even pursue Aiyuk sometime a little later down the road. Really, the Steelers hold the leverage in this situation. The longer they wait, the more likely it is that the 49ers lessen their trade demands, unless another team decides to swoop in out of nowhere. And if that were to happen, the Steelers wouldn't be any worse off than they are now. And they may end up being better off in the long run.
Brandon Aiyuk trade no longer happening? New optimism that 49ers star WR will remain in San Francisco
A shocking development in the Aiyuk saga
By Jordan Dajani
35 mins ago
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/b...san-francisco/
I feel like it’s not happening. Has the makings for an anti-climatic resigning.
Which is fine. Then they move on to whatever Plan-B was…or C, D, whatever.
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