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    Heroes and Goats

    Heroes, second half Fields.

    Goats the rest of the team, especially the offenseive line and TJ for being a non factor against a rookie and Tomlin.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    The offensive guards and Herbig and Leal seemed to be big reasons for some of the issues.

    The guards seemed to get beat a ton. But it’s just so hard to tell on TV.

    Herbig and Leal got run at a lot.

    The lack of another WR is starting to cause issues.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    No heroes in losses. Each unit took turns sucking today. Nice comeback, but it was an L.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Najee was just awful.....Patterson was able to run well behind this same o-line

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Whole team gets a goat. That was just an all around piss-poor effort.

    Fields was about the only positive but even with the positive, there was a lot of negative.


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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Najee was just awful.....Patterson was able to run well behind this same o-line
    Najee has nonexistent acceleration. He has two speeds. Full speed (Which isn't fast) and stopped dead.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Anyone else notice that Smith often has two pass routes running to the same spot? Either his design is bizarre or these geniuses can’t run it right.
    Smith also needs to stop calling the same 4 obvious runs. His line isn’t good enough to just line up and blow guys off the ball. He’s got to get more creative.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Najee has poor vision. The o line doesn't help either but CP and Warren hit the holes better

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Despite the refs dicking us every time they got the chance, they couldn't dick us harder than we dicked ourselves, in a surprisingly winnable game. Basically, our entire team took turns being goats, and yes I'm not acquitting Fields of any culpability for NOT simply falling on the football after self-fumbling, and even though he definitely re-secured the ball, he let the refs have an opportunity to make a bad call, which they'd been doing on a consistent basis thus far.

    Game ball goes to Najee Harris, who in my mind made the fewest, and least severe, amount of mistakes in a very hard-nosed effort, especially after Patterson went down.
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    Re: Heroes and Goats

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    I noticed all of that as well.

    They need WR help…no doubt. But most of all, they need the O-Line to block. There’s talent there but something is off. There were a whole lot of unblocked rushers on Fields today. Had that been Wilson or Kenny back there, they’d have been even more screwed than they already were.


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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I noticed all of that as well.

    They need WR help…no doubt. But most of all, they need the O-Line to block. There’s talent there but something is off. There were a whole lot of unblocked rushers on Fields today. Had that been Wilson or Kenny back there, they’d have been even more screwed than they already were.
    Agreed.

    I have no idea how to figure out who didn't or did do what....but there were too many unblocked Colts and too many times that a Steelers lineman was standing there not blocking anyone with his facemask pointed to the backfield watching the play get blown up.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Agreed.

    I have no idea how to figure out who didn't or did do what....but there were too many unblocked Colts and too many times that a Steelers lineman was standing there not blocking anyone with his facemask pointed to the backfield watching the play get blown up.
    Our o'line is beat up and young. Sound like an excuse but it is also true. Really need to get healthy at guard to stabilize the interior of the line in the run and passing game.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    But most of all, they need the O-Line to block. There’s talent there but something is off. There were a whole lot of unblocked rushers on Fields today. Had that been Wilson or Kenny back there, they’d have been even more screwed than they already were.
    They need to offer Munchak whatever it takes for him to be willing to come back and give Meyer his walking papers.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by oneforthetoe View Post
    Our o'line is beat up and young. Sound like an excuse but it is also true. Really need to get healthy at guard to stabilize the interior of the line in the run and passing game.
    Not too many teams are going to look that great starting your 3rd and 4th string guards. The actual 2nd string guard (Herbig the Elder) is already on IR.

    The OL did appear to get better as the game went on....but what do I know?

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Patchwork OL fixing holes on the go, lost the turnover battle, 53 yards in penalties, defense gave up big play after big play, on the road. We had more 1st downs, more total yards, and more yards per play. This loss was not on the offense.
    Losing Herbig was HUGE. Losing Daniels was big. Falling behind early and not being able to run the ball at all made this game almost impossible. Great job by Smith and Fields getting us back into the game. We were down only 3 with 3:40 left to play.

    Game balls get deflated in a loss. I do walk away from this knowing that Tomlin coached teams never give up, again. Arthur Smith was a great hire for this season. Justin Fields has shown he CAN put the offense on his shoulders when called upon.

    Just came up short today.

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    Whatever you would offer Munchak, I would offer him double! Won’t get an argument from me!

    I can only think that there are things that they aren’t seeing as a group and that would have to do with coaching IMO. Or they just aren’t smart…


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    Quote Originally Posted by oneforthetoe View Post
    Our o'line is beat up and young. Sound like an excuse but it is also true. Really need to get healthy at guard to stabilize the interior of the line in the run and passing game.
    Agree with this. The IOL went from being a strength to being a liability quickly. Hopefully Isaac is on his way back soon and James doesn't miss much time. Frazier looks like our future at Center.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Agree with this. The IOL went from being a strength to being a liability quickly. Hopefully Isaac is on his way back soon and James doesn't miss much time. Frazier looks like our future at Center.
    Daniels spotted in a walking boot and crutches after the game. I wouldn't count on him playing too quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Patchwork OL fixing holes on the go, lost the turnover battle, 53 yards in penalties, defense gave up big play after big play, on the road. We had more 1st downs, more total yards, and more yards per play. This loss was not on the offense.
    Losing Herbig was HUGE. Losing Daniels was big. Falling behind early and not being able to run the ball at all made this game almost impossible. Great job by Smith and Fields getting us back into the game. We were down only 3 with 3:40 left to play.

    Game balls get deflated in a loss. I do walk away from this knowing that Tomlin coached teams never give up, again. Arthur Smith was a great hire for this season. Justin Fields has shown he CAN put the offense on his shoulders when called upon.

    Just came up short today.
    How many of those yards were on that hot BS call on Fitzpatrick? That was one of the worst calls I have seen in some time. It is POSSIBLE that without that call....we are all having a different discussion right now.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Daniels spotted in a walking boot and crutches after the game. I wouldn't count on him playing too quickly.

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    How many of those yards were on that hot BS call on Fitzpatrick? That was one of the worst calls I have seen in some time. It is POSSIBLE that without that call....we are all having a different discussion right now.
    That is part of the point. With as poorly as things went today we still had an honest shot at winning this game. Most of the blame for this loss falls on in-game injuries, penalties, and turnovers.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    They need to offer Munchak whatever it takes for him to be willing to come back and give Meyer his walking papers.
    this.........................................
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    That is part of the point. With as poorly as things went today we still had an honest shot at winning this game. Most of the blame for this loss falls on in-game injuries, penalties, and turnovers.

    I think we were goiung into overtime if not for the botched snap. We only needed to get to the 40 yard line after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Najee has poor vision. The o line doesn't help either but CP and Warren hit the holes better

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    Thats seemed to be his problem since coming into the league. Got to open up holes for him and tell him where they will be. Doesnt seem like he can shift direction very well if the primary isn't there. Never liked the Najee pick in the first round - hes strong, can bust a few tackles in College,

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    They need to offer Munchak whatever it takes for him to be willing to come back and give Meyer his walking papers.
    Amen brother, been thinking and saying the same thing!

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Forgot to say our poor performance was also despite the Colts QB being a total idiot about running the ball while fumbling and getting himself hurt on the same play, along with the Colts coaching being stupid enough to put him back into the game so he could get hurt more. In fact, I'd say the Colts coaching was terrible in general, giving us many opportunities to win this game, while somehow mismanaging the clock worse than Tomlin. No excuses today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Peon View Post
    Forgot to say our poor performance was also despite the Colts QB being a total idiot about running the ball while fumbling and getting himself hurt on the same play, along with the Colts coaching being stupid enough to put him back into the game so he could get hurt more. In fact, I'd say the Colts coaching was terrible in general, giving us many opportunities to win this game, while somehow mismanaging the clock worse than Tomlin. No excuses today.
    You don't make excuses, but you do analyze a game honestly and take everything into consideration. Ask yourself this...would you like to trade places with the Colts fans for the remainder of this season? I'll stick with the Steelers.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Game ball to Justin Fields

    Goats:
    Najee he is painful to watch trying to hit the hole. So slow and no vision. I'll be so glad when he's gone next year.
    TJ for being a non factor.
    Frazier for his snap that likely cost the game.
    The whole team in the first quarter.
    The whole defense for the whole game.

    This is one they should have won but lost.

    3 touchdowns, over 400 yards. Lost pretty. It's much better to win ugly. These types of games will happen 2-3 times a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Peon View Post
    Game ball goes to Najee Harris, who in my mind made the fewest, and least severe, amount of mistakes in a very hard-nosed effort, especially after Patterson went down.
    I'll be happy to donate to the purchase of your new glasses.

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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Game Balls:
    None.

    HM:
    Fields.
    Second half offense (at times, hence HM).
    Goats:
    First half defense.
    First half offense.



    This was a team loss today. The defense cannot come out and let a team walk down the field and put up 14 points on the first two drives.


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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Peon View Post
    Game ball goes to Najee Harris, who in my mind made the fewest, and least severe, amount of mistakes in a very hard-nosed effort, especially after Patterson went down.
    I'll be happy to donate to the purchase of your new glasses.
    Despite committing few penalties (maybe 1 all day) the O-line was terrible, allowing Najee to become engulfed by defenders almost immediately after the hand-off, which led to to his 13 attempts for 19 yards of rushing. However, he was 3rd in team receiving yards, with 3 grabs for 54 yards, averaging 18 YPC, ahead of Pickens (16.14) and Freiermuth (11.4), and with a long catch of 32 yards! So really, everyone calling Najee out are the ones needing glasses, and perhaps some mental exercises for improved memory skills.
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    Re: Heroes and Goats

    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Peon View Post
    Despite committing few penalties (maybe 1 all day) the O-line was terrible, allowing Najee to become engulfed by defenders almost immediately after the hand-off, which led to to his 13 attempts for 19 yards of rushing. However, he was 3rd in team receiving yards, with 3 grabs for 54 yards, averaging 18 YPC, ahead of Pickens (16.14) and Freiermuth (11.4), and with a long catch of 32 yards! So really, everyone calling Najee out are the ones needing glasses, and perhaps some mental exercises for improved memory skills.
    13 carries for 19 yards gets him a game ball from you? Haha. CP wasn’t having problems running the ball. How is that explained away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Frazier looks like our future at Center.
    Agreed, but he's GOT to get on the same page with Fields as to when to snap the ball. This should have been corrected after the first time it happened.

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