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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Meh.

    I honestly don't think any of the options in the current draft class are going to pan out.

    My plan, as dumb as itight be, would to take a shot in the third on Dart or Milroe if they last that long.

    Either way, keep my powder dry for 2026.


    Most of the draft experts are saying there is a chance that Dart won't even make it to the Steelers at #21.

    I like a couple quarterbacks in this draft.

    Cam Ward has a chance to be very good.

    Sanders doesn't have a high ceiling to me, but can be a pretty good quarterback if he has enough around him. I don't like his arm strength or how long he holds the ball.

    Dart is young and talented. He has a big learning curve because of the offense he played in. He is a good thrower of the football, and he loves to throw the ball downfield. He seems to be a fit for what the Steelers want to do and they plenty of time to develop him at his age.

    Shough is a guy I like a lot. He has a really good arm and shows he can make a ton of good throws even when the talent around him isn't elite. I like guys that elevate their teams without having great talent around them. He's old, but he only played in 42 games because of injuries and transfers, so I still think he is going to get better but he is the most ready to step in and play IMO. He has elite traits and he has a chance to be available outside of the first round.

    I'm not convinced Milroe will ever be an NFL quarterback. He has to develop and improve a lot just to have a chance to play. I look at his athleticism and his arm strength and it excites me, but then I see his small hands and what he does on film and all the doubt comes flowing in. He's nowhere near ready to play NFL quarterback.

    McCord isn't athletic and is mostly a pocket passer, but in the right system with talent around him he has a chance to be a game manager type. I don't see a real high ceiling, but he can play a little bit. I just don't think he is the athletic type of player the team seems to be looking for.

    Howard has a chance, but he looked so bad at the combine when he wasn't on his team with all the talent and everything wasn't set up for him.

    Dart and Shough are my two favorites of the quarterbacks that may be available to them, and a late in the draft pick of a guy like Donovan Smith that has elite athleticism and some talent but never put it together in college can be a developmental pick to see what they can make of him without investing a high pick.

    I only see Cam Ward as a first round talent in this draft class. I think Dart would be more of a second to third round pick most years, and Shough would be more of a third rounder because of his age and injuries. But those two guys have real ability to throw the ball and are good athletes. There will also most likely be a quarterback that surprises everyone with how they take off at the NFL level that I didn't even list here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    Ok - so it seems Rodgers is the inevitable QB of the Steelers. And here I am having started this post by saying I didn’t want him.

    So now I have to find ways to be optimistic about him as I, unlike most of you realistic curmudgeons, like to enter a season feeling hopeful. So here are ways for me to feel good about Rodgers:

    1. He actually looked good with the Jets by the end of the season
    2. He has a quicker release than Wilson and hopefully that will mean less sacks
    3. His arm strength is still there unlike Cousins
    4. His ability to read the defense should be intact.
    5. He thrived in Green Bay and longs for a football environment/town like that. Pittsburgh is the closest thing that comes to Green Bay.

    I will try to find ways to get excited about him. For sure we will draft a QB this year or next so there will be someone young in whom I can place hope for as well.
    I'm a forever optimist as well. Whatever the QB situation looks like this season, I'll be the guy cheering while all around me are grumbling. If it's ARod, bring it on and I'll get behind it. If it's Mason, I'll cheer for Rudolph. And if we start a rookie, I'll be all-in on that guy. It's just a team I root for. So I do, no matter what.

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    Sanders is the real deal. No idea why Dart is a thing but I think its the typical pre-draft hype that a 3rd QB always gets. I can see Kiper right now screaming about Dart still being available and being shocked on day 2. It was embarrassing the way he cheered for Levis like he was a family member a few years back.

    I hope we wait until later rounds to take a guy like Milroe or Howard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Sanders is the real deal. No idea why Dart is a thing but I think its the typical pre-draft hype that a 3rd QB always gets. I can see Kiper right now screaming about Dart still being available and being shocked on day 2. It was embarrassing the way he cheered for Levis like he was a family member a few years back.

    I hope we wait until later rounds to take a guy like Milroe or Howard.


    Sanders may be the real deal, but he has to show it at the next level.

    He has only played for his father, who builds everything around him for his son to succeed.

    Sanders does not have a strong arm.

    He had an elite talent in Travis Hunter to throw the ball up to.

    He holds the ball way too long and takes sacks. He won't be able to get away with that at the NFL level.

    He throws the ball into tight windows, which is a good thing, but at the next level his arm strength won't be able to do that with the smaller windows, better reaction times, and athleticism.

    Sanders Big 12 conference is the conference of no defense, and is not nearly as strong as Dart playing in the SEC and all the NFL-level players he has faced over his career.

    The closest comp I come up with for Sanders is Tua after his injuries. A very accurate passer with an average at best arm that needs to be in a system that spreads the field and has tons of talent to succeed. Not a lot of mobility.

    As for why Dart is a thing:

    Jaxson Dart has a much better arm.

    Dart is also a better athlete than Sanders, but he is still a very good thrower of the football. At the combine he was clearly the best thrower of the ball that day, and he was making throws that weren't even built into the offense he has played in at Ole Miss with players he had never played with before.

    Dart didn't make his living throwing slants and crossing routes with the ball mostly traveling less than 6 yards in the air. He had the highest yards per attempt in the country by a mile(10.8 yards/attempt) and makes his living throwing the ball down the field. They are much more difficult throws and throws that will be asked of him at the NFL level.

    Dart played against much stronger talent in his conference.

    None of these guys are perfect prospects, and both of these quarterbacks will have to make significant adjustments to the NFL game. I think many are looking past Dart and dismissing his very good physical gifts. He is a talented 21-year-old kid that has a lot of football in front of him. I don't know for a fact that either of these guys will be stars, but they are certainly worthy of consideration to be a team's high draft pick and eventual starting quarterback.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Most of the draft experts are saying there is a chance that Dart won't even make it to the Steelers at #21.

    I like a couple quarterbacks in this draft.

    Cam Ward has a chance to be very good.

    Sanders doesn't have a high ceiling to me, but can be a pretty good quarterback if he has enough around him. I don't like his arm strength or how long he holds the ball.

    Dart is young and talented. He has a big learning curve because of the offense he played in. He is a good thrower of the football, and he loves to throw the ball downfield. He seems to be a fit for what the Steelers want to do and they plenty of time to develop him at his age.

    Shough is a guy I like a lot. He has a really good arm and shows he can make a ton of good throws even when the talent around him isn't elite. I like guys that elevate their teams without having great talent around them. He's old, but he only played in 42 games because of injuries and transfers, so I still think he is going to get better but he is the most ready to step in and play IMO. He has elite traits and he has a chance to be available outside of the first round.

    I'm not convinced Milroe will ever be an NFL quarterback. He has to develop and improve a lot just to have a chance to play. I look at his athleticism and his arm strength and it excites me, but then I see his small hands and what he does on film and all the doubt comes flowing in. He's nowhere near ready to play NFL quarterback.

    McCord isn't athletic and is mostly a pocket passer, but in the right system with talent around him he has a chance to be a game manager type. I don't see a real high ceiling, but he can play a little bit. I just don't think he is the athletic type of player the team seems to be looking for.

    Howard has a chance, but he looked so bad at the combine when he wasn't on his team with all the talent and everything wasn't set up for him.

    Dart and Shough are my two favorites of the quarterbacks that may be available to them, and a late in the draft pick of a guy like Donovan Smith that has elite athleticism and some talent but never put it together in college can be a developmental pick to see what they can make of him without investing a high pick.

    I only see Cam Ward as a first round talent in this draft class. I think Dart would be more of a second to third round pick most years, and Shough would be more of a third rounder because of his age and injuries. But those two guys have real ability to throw the ball and are good athletes. There will also most likely be a quarterback that surprises everyone with how they take off at the NFL level that I didn't even list here.
    My thinking falls along those lines.

    I think Howard is a joke as an NFL prospect. Same with the kid from Notre Dame. McCord is a wild card. If Jesse Palmer is "right" with all his innovative training methods and analytics...McCord is an underrated gem. But that means Jesse Palmer has to be right. Does anyone know enough to judge that?

    Ward is a legitimate first round prospect. No quibbling from me.

    Sanders, for me, is another flavor of Kenny Pickett. He was throwing to an incredible WR. He likes to hold the ball and try and make plays out of structure down the field. Except, he does not have the arm strength, speed, and processing ability to continue to do that in the NFL. Travis Hunter won't be down there somewhere in the NFL.

    I would agree that Dart is usually a 3rd-4th round prospect because of how much he has not been asked to do on the field. BUT...he has some traits that NFL teams are realizing are "keys" to success - he can make plays out of structure and he can hit all levels of the field. Many are knocking him because of the offense he comes out of and how little translates to the NFL....I say that prior to Mahomes, no "Air Raid" QB had really thrived in the NFL. Coach more gooder. I think Dart can play. I am just not sure if he is worth a first round selection.

    Shough is a harder evaluation for me. I just am not sure I see the foundation for NFL success that you do. He seems to have thrived in college....after he saw it all and did a little of it all....reminds me of another QB who shall not be mentioned....as well as some previous draft prospects that never launched in the NFL after spending oodles of time in college.

    Milroe....is basically heroin for me. I am excited about him as a prospect for the same reasons I was excited about Fields. IF...IF...(IF)...he can be developed, a team has a foundation of athletic traits that are almost without par at the position. But....Milroe has so much mental and technical work to do in order to have the foundation to thrive in the NFL....that it is a even more of a question than Fields. So...again....for a third rounder....sure. For the higher than that pick he is going to cost....maybe not so much.

    In all of this....it needs to be remembered that the 2026 is going to be held in Pittsburgh. Khan is seemingly amassing comp picks like they are going out of style. Are they thinking of making a big 2026 trade and having their new face of the franchise get drafted in front of joyous Yinzers?

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Sanders may be the real deal, but he has to show it at the next level.

    He has only played for his father, who builds everything around him for his son to succeed.

    Sanders does not have a strong arm.

    He had an elite talent in Travis Hunter to throw the ball up to.

    He holds the ball way too long and takes sacks. He won't be able to get away with that at the NFL level.

    He throws the ball into tight windows, which is a good thing, but at the next level his arm strength won't be able to do that with the smaller windows, better reaction times, and athleticism.

    Sanders Big 12 conference is the conference of no defense, and is not nearly as strong as Dart playing in the SEC and all the NFL-level players he has faced over his career.

    The closest comp I come up with for Sanders is Tua after his injuries. A very accurate passer with an average at best arm that needs to be in a system that spreads the field and has tons of talent to succeed. Not a lot of mobility.

    As for why Dart is a thing:

    Jaxson Dart has a much better arm.

    Dart is also a better athlete than Sanders, but he is still a very good thrower of the football. At the combine he was clearly the best thrower of the ball that day, and he was making throws that weren't even built into the offense he has played in at Ole Miss with players he had never played with before.

    Dart didn't make his living throwing slants and crossing routes with the ball mostly traveling less than 6 yards in the air. He had the highest yards per attempt in the country by a mile(10.8 yards/attempt) and makes his living throwing the ball down the field. They are much more difficult throws and throws that will be asked of him at the NFL level.

    Dart played against much stronger talent in his conference.

    None of these guys are perfect prospects, and both of these quarterbacks will have to make significant adjustments to the NFL game. I think many are looking past Dart and dismissing his very good physical gifts. He is a talented 21-year-old kid that has a lot of football in front of him. I don't know for a fact that either of these guys will be stars, but they are certainly worthy of consideration to be a team's high draft pick and eventual starting quarterback.
    The more I think about it....the more I see a POTENTIAL for these two guys to have the same career arc - realizing they are not ideal one for one comps for each other:

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dak-pr...2-96e92ebc1241
    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaxson...2-f2d3f25131e8

    I remember being in the draft thread with folks here and people were really split on Dak. Just like they will be on Dart.

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    Sanders would make a good "Slash" if there were enough starting QBs already available.
    All Defense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    The more I think about it....the more I see a POTENTIAL for these two guys to have the same career arc - realizing they are not ideal one for one comps for each other:

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dak-pr...2-96e92ebc1241
    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaxson...2-f2d3f25131e8

    I remember being in the draft thread with folks here and people were really split on Dak. Just like they will be on Dart.


    That's a pretty good comparison. I think Dak was a slightly better athlete and Dart is a better thrower of the football at this stage of their careers.

    I also love that Dart is 21 years old. He is the youngest of the top recruits and I love that he has so much football ahead of him with much more room for learning and development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLD View Post
    Sanders would make a good "Slash" if there were enough starting QBs already available.


    Sanders doesn't have that type of athleticism.

    Milroe is the quarterback that has the crazy athleticism and speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    That's a pretty good comparison. I think Dak was a slightly better athlete and Dart is a better thrower of the football at this stage of their careers.

    I also love that Dart is 21 years old. He is the youngest of the top recruits and I love that he has so much football ahead of him with much more room for learning and development.

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    Sanders doesn't have that type of athleticism.

    Milroe is the quarterback that has the crazy athleticism and speed.
    I'm coming around on Dart.

    Folks need to realize that Sanders isn't that good of an athlete. If he was just a no name kid from Directional State U , I don't think his stock would be as high as it is. The little I saw was not impressive.

    But people keep telling me Will Howatd is gonna be good. So what do I know?

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    I don’t want Dart with the first round pick and he won’t be there in the third round and I don’t want the Steelers trading future draft capital to move into round 2 to get him. So he’s a non-starter.

    Milroe is like Malik Willis a few years ago - raw but athletic BUT Milroe competed in a real team and real conference at Alabama. I would prefer him or Ewers if we’re going to draft a QB this year.

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    Darts ability to pickup on what defenses give him is already in question and he hasnt even played an nfl game yet. I think the steelers are paying too much attention to this mobility Qb idea. They need to find a guy who can maneuver in the pocket, read defenses (or can pick it up quickly) and throw accurately. Marino and Brady were not what one would consider mobile but they could take what a defense gave them, same with Rivers and Manning, we need to find someone more in that mold

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    If drafting a QB this draft, which I think we will. It will most likely be a first round pick. You want the 5th year option. And, you don't want to wait until pick 83 to see what's left to choose from.

    I know people have said make a trade to get back into the 2nd round. And I would do that anyway. But you can't count on that happening. It takes 2 to make a trade. Get your QB, then work on trading into the 2nd if that's the plan. I think that's how I look at it.

    We may still begin the season with Mason starting. It may feel and look like 2022 all over again. We have a better situation now though with Smith and Arth than we did back then. As far as a QB coach and OC with an actual plan, and have both been known as good QB guys. May really help Mason as well.

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    I think the 5th year option for QBs is almost totally useless.

    If they are good enough to be "the guy"....most of these cats are signing big $$$ deals after Year 3 when they first become extension eligible. If a QB makes it to the 5th year option without an extension...it means you don't have a QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think the 5th year option for QBs is almost totally useless.

    If they are good enough to be "the guy"....most of these cats are signing big $$$ deals after Year 3 when they first become extension eligible. If a QB makes it to the 5th year option without an extension...it means you don't have a QB.
    I don't completely disagree. But with the amount of money involved, the 5th year option is not useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I don't completely disagree. But with the amount of money involved, the 5th year option is not useless.
    The last QB that I think had that option used was Baker as the Browns shoved him out the door.

    If nobody is using it...seems kind of pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    The last QB that I think had that option used was Baker as the Browns shoved him out the door.

    If nobody is using it...seems kind of pointless.
    The Browns are always a bad example of what you should do. Lol

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    Dart ain’t it.

    I actually like Ewers as a late round pick that could turn into a legit franchise guy. His downside is injury and not making the best decisions once a play breaks down. On schedule is pretty impressive.

    The one read offense Dart was in concerns me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Dart ain’t it.



    The one read offense Dart was in concerns me.
    That's where good coaching skills come in to play, except I don't think it applies to the coaching we have right now.

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    Qb room in 2025?

    MR, Thompson and a late round draft pick

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    Re: QB 2025

    I am starting to think maybe they will take a QB high in the draft now. My preference is that they wait until next year but that is simply based on the idea next year's draft will be better QB draft. That being the general consensus it still does not necessarily follow that they will be able to draft a better QB next year. This might be their line of thinking. Most thoughts seem to be that they are stocking up draft picks for next year, but they could use some of those draft picks from 2026 to move back into the second round this year to either grab defensive line help (if they use a 1st round pick on a QB), or vice versa.

    We will see in less than a month.

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    Re: QB 2025

    I think it'll be Shough or Milroe.

    Smith is going to see Tannehill 2.0 in Shough.

    Tomlin will see Justin Fields 2.0 with Milroe.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Tyler Shough will turn 26 in September and that in itself is enough for me to take him off my board unless he falls into round 5 (and he won't) he is a developmental guy he isnt ready to start now so you have a 26 year old rookie that needs a year or two ? no thanks

    many of you were / are against Alexander the NT (from Toledo) and he is 24 and ready to play now because he would turn 25 during the season
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: QB 2025

    My favorite 2 QBs in this draft are probably Howard and McCord. Whatever that is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Tyler Shough will turn 26 in September and that in itself is enough for me to take him off my board unless he falls into round 5 (and he won't) he is a developmental guy he isnt ready to start now so you have a 26 year old rookie that needs a year or two ? no thanks

    many of you were / are against Alexander the NT (from Toledo) and he is 24 and ready to play now because he would turn 25 during the season

    I understand what you're saying.

    Sure, I wish Shough was 22, but he's not. If he was 22, he would most likely be going even earlier.

    I think Shough is much more ready to play than most quarterbacks in this draft. He is good with playing under center and play action. He has a great arm with great arm talent and a quick release. He's mobile with optimal size. He needs to work on his footwork. If he can clean up his footwork and start using more of his lower body on his throws, he will become even more consistent and his great arm will show even more.

    The age isn't how you dream it up, but even if he's going to be 26 in September, you can still have at least a decade with him if he works out.

    I know age is always something to consider, but it's not going to stop me from drafting someone if I think they can play.

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    Re: QB 2025

    I can understand why Aaron Rodgers is waiting to sign. It’s quite simple.

    He wants to go out like Elway did and win a championship. So he is contemplating where is the best situation for him to win a Super Bowl this coming year.

    Everyone for a while was comparing the Steelers situation and the Giants and of course it was a no-brainer to pick the Steelers if those were the only two choices. But they aren’t. There are many choices … potentially.

    I believe he is weighing - signing with the Steelers now vs potentially signing with a team later (pre-season, early season, mid year etc …) that has lost their QB with a season ending injury. The probabilities of this is not that small. Every year we seem to have some team suffer major QB injury early in the season.

    what if one of these teams - Philadelphia, Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Washington, Rams, SF, Buffalo, KC, Houston, Baltimore, or even Miami, Den, TB or the Chargers lose their starting QB - Rodgers would be the first name in demand and arguably he may have a better chance to win a SB there than in Pit.

    I believe he is weighing the chance that one of these spots open up vs being the QB in Pittsburgh now and lose any chance to go somewhere else later.

    and by the way - don’t forget to add Pittsburgh to that list of places as who knows if Mason Rudolph will be able to play like a starter all year or he may have a season ending injury as well.

    there is a healthy chance he can still be wanted by the Steelers even after the season starts if Mason plays poorly which we have seen before.

    As a Steeler fan I hate the uncertainty in the teams most important position but if I was Rodgers and money was not an incentive anymore - there doesn’t seem to be any downside in waiting to see if injuries will open up opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I understand what you're saying.

    Sure, I wish Shough was 22, but he's not. If he was 22, he would most likely be going even earlier.

    I think Shough is much more ready to play than most quarterbacks in this draft. He is good with playing under center and play action. He has a great arm with great arm talent and a quick release. He's mobile with optimal size. He needs to work on his footwork. If he can clean up his footwork and start using more of his lower body on his throws, he will become even more consistent and his great arm will show even more.

    The age isn't how you dream it up, but even if he's going to be 26 in September, you can still have at least a decade with him if he works out.

    I know age is always something to consider, but it's not going to stop me from drafting someone if I think they can play.
    fair enough but its not just that he is turning 26 its also Historically how players that age have fared once drafted ...

    Chris Weinke
    Brandon Weeden
    Jim Drunkenmiller
    Phil Sims
    Kenny Pickett

    those are the 5 oldest QBs drafted in the modern era I could find , one could argue it worked out ok for Phil Sims who was put into a run first system with a heavy emphasis on playing stout Def in an era where the passing game was just starting to bloom and Bill Parcells made it work and pay off and Sims had some good seasons and I believe 12-14 year career

    *Sims and Pickett both younger than Shough when drafted by over a full year and were considered a bit old for rookies
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    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    fair enough but its not just that he is turning 26 its also Historically how players that age have fared once drafted ...

    Chris Weinke
    Brandon Weeden
    Jim Drunkenmiller
    Phil Sims
    Kenny Pickett

    those are the 5 oldest QBs drafted in the modern era I could find , one could argue it worked out ok for Phil Sims who was put into a run first system with a heavy emphasis on playing stout Def in an era where the passing game was just starting to bloom and Bill Parcells made it work and pay off and Sims had some good seasons and I believe 12-14 year career

    *Sims and Pickett both younger than Shough when drafted by over a full year and were considered a bit old for rookies

    I'm not suggesting they take Shough at #21. If they were going to take a shot at him or Milroe, I would hope it would happen after the first round. With that said, I have no idea how quickly all these quarterbacks will come off the board...nobody does. My hope is that Dart or Sanders is still there at #21 and the team will have the opportunity to draft a quarterback there if they evaluate him to be franchise-level.

    If they can trade back to get an additional pick and sneak into the second and still get the guy they want, that would obviously be a better situation.

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    I can understand why Aaron Rodgers is waiting to sign. It’s quite simple. He wants to go out like Elway did and win a championship. So he is contemplating where is the best situation for him to win a Super Bowl this coming year. Everyone for a while was comparing the Steelers situation and the Giants and of course it was a no-brainer to pick the Steelers if those were the only two choices. But they aren’t. There are many choices … potentially. I believe he is weighing - signing with the Steelers now vs potentially signing with a team later (pre-season, early season, mid year etc …) that has lost their QB with a season ending injury. The probabilities of this is not that small. Every year we seem to have some team suffer major QB injury early in the season. what if one of these teams - Philadelphia, Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Washington, Rams, SF, Buffalo, KC, Houston, Baltimore, or even Miami, Den, TB or the Chargers lose their starting QB - Rodgers would be the first name in demand and arguably he may have a better chance to win a SB there than in Pit. I believe he is weighing the chance that one of these spots open up vs being the QB in Pittsburgh now and lose any chance to go somewhere else later. and by the way - don’t forget to add Pittsburgh to that list of places as who knows if Mason Rudolph will be able to play like a starter all year or he may have a season ending injury as well. there is a healthy chance he can still be wanted by the Steelers even after the season starts if Mason plays poorly which we have seen before. As a Steeler fan I hate the uncertainty in the teams most important position but if I was Rodgers and money was not an incentive anymore - there doesn’t seem to be any downside in waiting to see if injuries will open up opportunities.
    This. Rodgers, if put on the Vikings would have a great chance to win the SB this year if he can even play at 80% of what a younger Rodgers could. The Vikings roster is that good. The Vikings from last year and this year are stacked, so much so that even Sam Darnold lit it up with them last year. Darnold stinks but the Vikings were so good last year they even made him look good. I predict Darnold will turn back into the pumpkin he has always been on the Seahawks this year.

    And yes, if I'm Rodgers I too wait it out. Just stay in shape and wait for a good team to call or simply retire. Why would he want to go somewhere like the Giants or Steelers who are such a long shot to win the SB this year? Both teams have so many needs that adding a guy like Rodgers isn't going to push them over the top. Why would you want to spend the last year or two of your career on a team running for your life at 41 years old? Let's also not forget that our current Arthur Smith offense isn't exactly a QB friendly offense. As Rodgers I definitely wouldn't want to play in run happy, Arthur Smith offense to end my career.

    As a Steelers fan, I'm not pissed at Rodgers for putting us in this situation, our owner, GM and coach have done this, not Rodgers.

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    I keep seeing mock drafts have us taking Jaxson Dart from Ole Miss in the first round. Thoughts?

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    ^ No dart is a waste of a first round pick, we should go D Lineman in the first, then CB, Safety…those are our pressing needs, dont want to see the Steelers draft a Qb until the fifth round or later. In fact i would be fine with MR, Sklyar, and a vet like Wentz or Tannehill (if Rodgers doesnt sign).

    Agree with your third paragraph. We dropped the ball in 2020, when we shouldve chosen Bens replacement. There were Qb’s to be had, but we traded our first for Minkah. A heir apparent franchise Qb is more important than a safety, even one as good as Minkah. Just poor foresight by the FO and Tomlin

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