Steelers @ Ravens

[86WARD]

Does anyone remember we were driving to tie the Eagles in the 2nd half when the fumble happened and the wheels came off? We can do what we need to do offensively without GP. Yes, we are better with him but we are not just a bunch of meat filled shirts without him.

This game will come down to who makes the play late in the 4 to win or lose it. Like just about every other Steelers/Ravens game.

Kinda like ALL Ravens games. Doubt Tucker misses field goals this time around…jinx, jinx.

[pczach]

Post the !

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It had to be done!

[DesertSteel]

Does anyone remember we were driving to tie the Eagles in the 2nd half when the fumble happened and the wheels came off? We can do what we need to do offensively without GP. Yes, we are better with him but we are not just a bunch of meat filled shirts without him.

This game will come down to who makes the play late in the 4 to win or lose it. Like just about every other Steelers/Ravens game.

I agree to a point. But we did only have 163 yards of total offense. Smith needs to dial up a better gameplan than last Sunday's.

[Mojouw]

The Steelers offense is predicated on extremely low percentage throws hitting at a high percentage. The ONE player on the entire roster capable of helping to sustain such a high variance offense will be in sweatpants on Saturday.

The combination of Smith and Wilson has proven over the past ten weeks to be either unwilling or incapable of attacking teams through the middle of the field. The ONE exception was when they victimized Cincy's horrible LB corps. One would assume that Roquan Smith and Trenton Simpson would offer more resistance should Smith and Wilson attempt the "death by a thousand screen passes" game-plan again.

The Ravens lead the NFL in allowing the fewest yards per rushing attempt (3.5) and the Steelers are in a cluster of teams right behind them (4.0).Flipping over to offense, the Ravens are tops in the league on rush yards per attempt (5.7) while the Steelers are second to last in the league (3.9). This tells me that the front 7's are about equal at stopping the run and the Raven's offensive line is far better at imposing their will.

Combine that with during the last 5 weeks or so, the Ravens secondary has stopped bleeding yards and the Steelers passing offense has gone cold...how does this look good for the good guys coming into the game?

Sure, there is always Mike Tomlin and whatever deal he made at a dusty crossroads...but magic is not much of a gameplan.

[Born2Steel]

The Steelers offense is predicated on extremely low percentage throws hitting at a high percentage. The ONE player on the entire roster capable of helping to sustain such a high variance offense will be in sweatpants on Saturday.

The combination of Smith and Wilson has proven over the past ten weeks to be either unwilling or incapable of attacking teams through the middle of the field. The ONE exception was when they victimized Cincy's horrible LB corps. One would assume that Roquan Smith and Trenton Simpson would offer more resistance should Smith and Wilson attempt the "death by a thousand screen passes" game-plan again.

The Ravens lead the NFL in allowing the fewest yards per rushing attempt (3.5) and the Steelers are in a cluster of teams right behind them (4.0).Flipping over to offense, the Ravens are tops in the league on rush yards per attempt (5.7) while the Steelers are second to last in the league (3.9). This tells me that the front 7's are about equal at stopping the run and the Raven's offensive line is far better at imposing their will.

Combine that with during the last 5 weeks or so, the Ravens secondary has stopped bleeding yards and the Steelers passing offense has gone cold...how does this look good for the good guys coming into the game?

Sure, there is always Mike Tomlin and whatever deal he made at a dusty crossroads...but magic is not much of a gameplan.

Yet we beat this juggernaut without scoring a TD last meeting.

[Mojouw]

Yet we beat this juggernaut without scoring a TD last meeting.

2 turnovers. 2 missed FGs. 1 missed extra point I think.

Wouldn't count on any of those happening again.

[Born2Steel]

2 turnovers. 2 missed FGs. 1 missed extra point I think.

Wouldn't count on any of those happening again.

Probably not. It will be some other series of events that leads to a Steelers victory.

[Born2Steel]

The Steelers offense is predicated on extremely low percentage throws hitting at a high percentage. The ONE player on the entire roster capable of helping to sustain such a high variance offense will be in sweatpants on Saturday.

The combination of Smith and Wilson has proven over the past ten weeks to be either unwilling or incapable of attacking teams through the middle of the field. The ONE exception was when they victimized Cincy's horrible LB corps. One would assume that Roquan Smith and Trenton Simpson would offer more resistance should Smith and Wilson attempt the "death by a thousand screen passes" game-plan again.

The Ravens lead the NFL in allowing the fewest yards per rushing attempt (3.5) and the Steelers are in a cluster of teams right behind them (4.0).Flipping over to offense, the Ravens are tops in the league on rush yards per attempt (5.7) while the Steelers are second to last in the league (3.9). This tells me that the front 7's are about equal at stopping the run and the Raven's offensive line is far better at imposing their will.

Combine that with during the last 5 weeks or so, the Ravens secondary has stopped bleeding yards and the Steelers passing offense has gone cold...how does this look good for the good guys coming into the game?

Sure, there is always Mike Tomlin and whatever deal he made at a dusty crossroads...but magic is not much of a gameplan.

I'm not trying to pick here or single you out with this. Just using this post as an example of my point. Great job btw, I do appreciate the effort put into it.

We have played 14 games. Those stats are an average over those 14 games. They mean absolutely nothing for this upcoming game. No game has ever been decided because one team has had better stats. Pickens being out, the offense playing inconsistently, will force us to play to our strengths and be as perfect as we can be. We cannot afford to fall behind by much. We cannot afford turnovers. We must get off the field defensively on 3rd downs. But yards per rush over the last 14 games is not gonna factor into this.

[Mojouw]

I'm not trying to pick here or single you out with this. Just using this post as an example of my point. Great job btw, I do appreciate the effort put into it.

We have played 14 games. Those stats are an average over those 14 games. They mean absolutely nothing for this upcoming game. No game has ever been decided because one team has had better stats. Pickens being out, the offense playing inconsistently, will force us to play to our strengths and be as perfect as we can be. We cannot afford to fall behind by much. We cannot afford turnovers. We must get off the field defensively on 3rd downs. But yards per rush over the last 14 games is not gonna factor into this.

I have to totslly disagree.

If you say throw out the stats because division gamev- fine. Maybe true.

But to just say no stats matter ever? That’s a bit too far.

The Pittsburgh Steelers are not an efficient running team. Loads of negative and no gain plays. Their stats reflect that.

Their passing game is wholly dependent on the big play. Again, stats reflect that.

The Steelers are good at stopping the run, above average at sacking the QB, excellent at containing scrambling QBs, and a bit below average stopping the pass. Again, stats reflect all that.

Are any of the above wildly out of step with most evaluations of the 2024 Steelers offense and defense?

[Born2Steel]

I have to totslly disagree.

If you say throw out the stats because division gamev- fine. Maybe true.

But to just say no stats matter ever? That’s a bit too far.

The Pittsburgh Steelers are not an efficient running team. Loads of negative and no gain plays. Their stats reflect that.

Their passing game is wholly dependent on the big play. Again, stats reflect that.

The Steelers are good at stopping the run, above average at sacking the QB, excellent at containing scrambling QBs, and a bit below average stopping the pass. Again, stats reflect all that.

Are any of the above wildly out of step with most evaluations of the 2024 Steelers offense and defense?

I probably didn't explain myself well. Those stats from 14 games will not decide the outcome of this weeks game. I never said throw out all stats.

[Mojouw]

I probably didn't explain myself well. Those stats from 14 games will not decide the outcome of this weeks game. I never said throw out all stats.

Sure. Games aren’t played on paper and all that.

But the stats indicate what each team does and does not do well. And the direction they are trending.

The Steelers, right now, stop the run well. They rush the passer pretty well. They generate turnovers. Play excellent special teams.

Other than that, they’re not very good at anything else. They don’t run the ball all that well. Without Pickens, they’re about the worst passing team in the league. And their secondary has been leaky as of late.

In contrast, they’re Ravens run the ball well, their QB is a leading MVP candidate who just threw 5 TDs, their run defense is even better than the Steelers, and their secondary has dramatically improved since they benched a couple guys and revised their approach.

Can the Steelers win? Sure. But they will likely need some fluky stuff to happen.

If I had to bet my house on the outcome of this game; I’m not betting on the Steelers. They wine the home game. They’ll probably lose the road game.

[Born2Steel]

If our strength is stopping their strength, hmmmm...

[Crow-Magnon]

The Ravens should have won in Pittsburgh, but lost due to missed FG’s and a PAT. That’s truth. It’s also truth that shit like that always seems to happen when the Steelers play the Ravens. It’s just the nature of the beast. So yeah, I say throw the stats out with the bathwater.

Steelers at this stage have a mediocre rushing attack. Would it surprise me if Harris scampered for 125 yards and 2 TD’s? No. Brandon Stephens hasn’t turned his head since the last time he looked in the rear-view mirror driving his first car. Would it surprise me if he gets a INT? Or two? It would not. It’s just the nature of how these two teams play each other. Every game is its own separate war.

My gut tells me the Ravens get the W. My head says nothing would surprise me.

[Mojouw]

The Ravens should have won in Pittsburgh, but lost due to missed FG’s and a PAT. That’s truth. It’s also truth that shit like that always seems to happen when the Steelers play the Ravens. It’s just the nature of the beast. So yeah, I say throw the stats out with the bathwater.

Steelers at this stage have a mediocre rushing attack. Would it surprise me if Harris scampered for 125 yards and 2 TD’s? No. Brandon Stephens hasn’t turned his head since the last time he looked in the rear-view mirror driving his first car. Would it surprise me if he gets a INT? Or two? It would not. It’s just the nature of how these two teams play each other. Every game is its own separate war.

My gut tells me the Ravens get the W. My head says nothing would surprise me.

That’s all pretty accurate.

I think the Ravens should’ve won the last time these two teams got together last season as well. I think the TEs and WRs dropped three TDs.

[DesertSteel]

The Ravens should have won in Pittsburgh, but lost due to missed FG’s and a PAT. That’s truth. It’s also truth that shit like that always seems to happen when the Steelers play the Ravens. It’s just the nature of the beast. So yeah, I say throw the stats out with the bathwater.

Steelers at this stage have a mediocre rushing attack. Would it surprise me if Harris scampered for 125 yards and 2 TD’s? No. Brandon Stephens hasn’t turned his head since the last time he looked in the rear-view mirror driving his first car. Would it surprise me if he gets a INT? Or two? It would not. It’s just the nature of how these two teams play each other. Every game is its own separate war.

My gut tells me the Ravens get the W. My head says nothing would surprise me.

Hopefully in a couple days you’ll be back on here telling us the Ravens should have won, again.

[Crow-Magnon]

Hopefully in a couple days you’ll be back on here telling us the Ravens should have won, again.

If so, I will. If not, I will!

[cubanstogie]

Sure. Games aren’t played on paper and all that.

But the stats indicate what each team does and does not do well. And the direction they are trending.

The Steelers, right now, stop the run well. They rush the passer pretty well. They generate turnovers. Play excellent special teams.

Other than that, they’re not very good at anything else. They don’t run the ball all that well. Without Pickens, they’re about the worst passing team in the league. And their secondary has been leaky as of late.

In contrast, they’re Ravens run the ball well, their QB is a leading MVP candidate who just threw 5 TDs, their run defense is even better than the Steelers, and their secondary has dramatically improved since they benched a couple guys and revised their approach.

Can the Steelers win? Sure. But they will likely need some fluky stuff to happen.

If I had to bet my house on the outcome of this game; I’m not betting on the Steelers. They wine the home game. They’ll probably lose the road game.

I don’t think they need a fluke, but they do need plus 2 takeaways and a special teams or defensive TD. I wouldn’t call that a fluke only because Lamar seems to have 2 turnovers when facing Steelers. I’ll be shocked if Steelers win and happy playoff spot already clinched.

[El Kabong]

Is placekicking part of the game? Is the ability to catch the football part of the game? I say yes and say the team that SHOULD HAVE won the games is the team that DID win the games.

[hawaiiansteeler]

If it’s late in season, Steelers must be in Baltimore and stakes must be high

CHRIS ADAMSKI | Friday, Dec. 20, 2024

https://triblive.com/sports/if-its-l...-must-be-high/

[Born2Steel]

But are the stakes high? For the Ravens they are. They are struggling just to make the playoffs still. The Steelers are in no matter what happens the rest of the way. Division? That's something to play for and would be nice to win it. But is it really high stakes? I think my answer is obvious.

[86WARD]

But are the stakes high? For the Ravens they are. They are struggling just to make the playoffs still. The Steelers are in no matter what happens the rest of the way. Division? That's something to play for and would be nice to win it. But is it really high stakes? I think my answer is obvious.

It’s not. The bigger game if they lose would be the Bengals. They’d be tied with a 4-2 division record. The Steelers have a 7-2 Conference record. They are still in the driver seat (albeit a tougher seat) even with a loss to the Ravens this week. Worst case is their wins and losses just cancel each other out.

[ShadesOfSteel1172]

Ravens are at a 7 point spread now

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[oneforthetoe]

Clearly a bigger game for the Ravens, but not just because of the standings. If Lamar falls flat against the Steelers again with these stakes, it (Cleveland) stains his legacy. How many more chances does he get to lead his team to a Superbowl? Lamar is not playing at this level into his 40's. Or, for that matter his late 30's. I know he is only 27 but he has a running back plus maybe 3 years as a career.

[EzraTank]

Too many injuries. We win today easily with a healthy team.

[86WARD]

Too many injuries. We win today easily with a healthy team.

No they don’t.

[that1guy]

Russell Wilson has not been as advertised. The Steelers need to prioritize drafting a Franchise QB in the off-season. Keep Wilson to help the new QB but you cannot trust him to be a starter

[EzraTank]

No they don’t.

Well, I disagree. We moved the ball in them all day with Calvin Austin as our #1 receiver.

We didn't have a single starter left in our secondary after half time.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Well, I disagree. We moved the ball in them all day with Calvin Austin as our #1 receiver.

Only 19 first downs, 217 passing yards and 315 yards of total offense.

Doesn't sound like we moved the ball on them all day.

[ShadesOfSteel1172]

No they don’t.

I think you need to take off the "easily" part, nothing is ever easy with this team.

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[ShadesOfSteel1172]

No they don’t.

Sorry I quoted the wrong person

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