Pretty easy. Don't watch preseason games because they are boring and not broadcast out of market.Originally Posted by 86WARD
Google highlights and film breakdowns of the results after the game.
Trubisky threw what like a couple of dozen passes all preseason? Pretty easy to go find those on the internets. Didn't bother to search them all out. Saw like say 7/10 or something like that. Did I miss the throws where he lit the world on fire?
I just find it strange that someone would admit to not watching the games so you don’t see everything he has or has not done but then criticize someone else for not watching him in previous seasons.
Trubisky was really not nearly as bad in the preseason as you make him out to be. Will he be any different in Pittsburgh than he was in Chicago? Who knows…but his preseason was far from terrible.
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True and against the jaguars he avoid like 3 sacks...Possible he will not be good with us but I will give him the chance
Again...I've been more than clear with what I have and have not seen. I didn't watch his 1-2 drives a game live. I found them on Memorex. From those recordings, I saw an offense executing fairly striaghtforward stuff. The kind of basic staples that Trubisky has always mostly executed with Kirk Cousins like precision. It is when the games start mattering and the defenses start scheming to take stuff away that Mitch has typically struggled.
And to be fair and balanced, I saw roughly the same with KP. He executed a lot of stuff that look heavily scripted against some basic as heck defensive alignments. It is great that he was able to do it proficiently -- but this isn't jumping up and down stuff either.
Both guys looked like they can execute basic NFL passing plays when tossing the ball to pretty darn good pass catchers against vanilla defense. Good for them. They should be able to. They were both drafted in the first round for reasons.
What I have not seen and I can not find it even when looking for it in the preseason cut-ups I can find; is either guy really succeeding in pushing the ball down the field against a defense designed to prevent them from succeeding. According to multiple practice reports, both Trubisky and KP struggled significantly when the practice scenario was designed to simulate that.
If there is preseason game evidence that demonstrates anything different than that, I have not seen it. Maybe a play here or a play there -- but not the demonstration of sustained high level throws that would lead me to believe in a Trubisky turnaround.
I would be fine with being pointed to plays or drives that I should rewatch on the old betamax.
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You know that stuff doesn’t happen in the preseason. Not for any team. You can’t evaluate players when you overly scheme them to succeed. It works both ways. It’s not just vanilla defenses. It’s vanilla offenses as well.
Shhmaybe?
From what I was able to see of the preseason offensive snaps for Trubisky and Pickett; the Steelers insulated them as best they could and really did a great job of ensuring they experienced success. Both QBs were able to take that opportunity and complete some passes. That is never a bad thing. But both QBs didn't really challenge downfield or, again, from what I could see, thread passes into tight windows against clingy DBs.
I think we all know those are crucial elements for success in the regular season. And based on what I have seen previously from MT, he is inconsistent at best at doing those things. KP is a total unknown. I remember when Ben R showed up, I was intrigued by his size and arm strength but skeptical of how it would all come together for him. Then he got thrust into the fray and showed he could be a dynamic playmaker not just execute pre-programmed sequences. That's what I am hoping to see from either MT or KP at some point this season.
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I think KP has that clutch gene. But until he gets tested. we won't know. All he can do is pass the tests set in front of him, which he did all preseason. Trubisky had one good drive. If the offense stalls back to no touchdowns in the first half, they have to put KP in sooner rather than later.
Some dream a lot that Trubisky learned a lot from Josh Allen last year!
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Trubisky does not have the physical tools of Josh Allen. We can only hope the ability to process what's going on on the field has improved for him. If MT is still a 1-2 read or run QB, he will not be in there long this season. Playing behind that awful OL in Chicago seemed to put some 'panic mode' bad habits into his decision making. The hope is learning for a season behind a QB that finally gets it, and the coaches that helped Allen get there, had some positive effects on MT. THAT is what we all should hope. I don't think anybody expects to see MT play like Josh Allen did vs the Rams week1.
Bradshaw and Cowturd…….now there’s a match made in…….
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Clickbait tweet. Bradshaw said he understood why Tomlin started Trubisky.
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Yep. He has a difference of opinion and would start Pickett but also noted that he completely understands why Tomlin is doing what he's doing. Nothing wrong with that. Clickbait title makes it sound like Bradshaw ripped Tomlin a new one.
What it still comes down to for me is that unless Trubisky comes out suddenly looking like an All-Pro (and nothing really indicates that's likely), then we're just treading water, and whats the point of that? We don't figure anything out and we don't get any closer to being a serious contender.
There's no evidence that Pickett isn't up for the job, and the only evidence about MT is "well, maybe he won't suck - I hope."
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If Dallas offered a 4th round pick for Mitch Trubisky - would you pull the trigger?
Tough question! 3rd rounder I d take without hesitation. I’m all in for KP so I’d probably take it. Take Rudolph instead for 4th or 5th. Trubisky better back up due to mobility IMO.
Yes.
Yes. He’s a one year starter barring a miracle. Turning that into draft capital and cap space is just good sense.
Yes I would pull the trigger, preferably aimed at Jerry Jones’s head
nothing has changed.............
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
You mentioned something there that I don't normally consider when evaluating a QB in Pittsburgh, but I was thinking that whole game the other night that Pickett could have done some damage if he ran the ball a bit more. Not in designed plays, but when he got in trouble. We've seen that from him before, but not at all recently. I think those concussions had a serious effect on him mentally.
Trubisky probably has the best physical tools of the three qb’s. But as far as reading defenses, he’s last. KP has overall better tools than MR but reading defenses - they’re close. Of course the Steelers want to see if their 1st round pick is the guy so I don’t see any competition this season unless KP craps the bed - which I highly doubt will happen
Yep, KP gets 7 games plus playoffs to prove he’s the guy. If not or even if he’s the guy I’d like to see QB drafted. Get rid of dead weight and have young backup without scar tissue. I like the fact the Steelers gamble on guys like MT, Paxton Lynch and Haskins but they’ve got to be able to cut the cord if it doesn’t pan out.
he has already shit the bed ... problem is so have the other 2
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
canada is the one who shit the bed, he’s been doing that his whole career
he was bad for sure , but I must have missed him entering the game each time I seen a 3 to 5 yard pass sail 4 feet over the head of the intended receiver
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
when the worst OC in the league takes away what you do best, doesn’t get the line to pickup blitzes, and gives you one or two options with the short side of the field, and one or both are covered you tend to throw it high to avoid an interception. Kenny was doing fine last year and threw with plenty of accuracy. He can do it again. The Steelers obviously thought Canada was the problem, so they did what they haven’t done in 80 years. If they thought Kenny was the issue he’d be benched I have no doubt - but he’s starting last I heard and Canada is gone.
you should be rooting for this guy to improve. If he doesn’t I’ll be one of first to say get an FA this off-season (like cousins) and/or draft a QB (no mittens this time) and I’ll admit I was wrong. You should do the same if he shows improvement.
agreed, even if he is the guy….get a FA qb if they don’t see someone with the right stuff in the draft. I still like the idea of a vet with past success as KP’s backup, I’ve thrown names out like Keenum, or Tyrod Taylor, Ryan would’ve been ideal if he were still in the league. I also think MR could serve as a decent backup (I really don’t think he’s dead weight)
I’d like to see them bring in a guy with ties to whoever the new OC ends up being. Help teach and explain the system from a current player POV
That’s the most logical move.
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