Why wasn't that a Sack by TJ ??

[katmandu]

Why did that Sack getting taken away from TJ ??

[86WARD]

They said it was an “aborted play”.

[katmandu]

They said it was an “aborted play”.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...medium=twitter

● It looked like T.J. Watt would tie Michael Strahan’s sack record on the fifth play of the Ravens opening possession, but a low snap to quarterback Tyler Huntley was ruled a running play when he got up and fumbled after being hit by Watt. Oh well, it might have to wait.

[86WARD]

I’d like to know why he didn’t get half a sack when he and Heyward sacked Huntley on Heywards penalty. It was still a sack…

[katmandu]

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[NCSteeler]

I’d like to know why he didn’t get half a sack when he and Heyward sacked Huntley on Heywards penalty. It was still a sack…

It was a penalty wasn't it

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[NCSteeler]

Absolutely aweful.

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[86WARD]

It was a penalty wasn't it

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I believe it should still count as a sack? I guess not…

[EzraTank]

Not sure they can appeal that "aborted play" bullshit call but they should. That makes Brett Farve's dive even more insulting.

[86WARD]

Not sure they can appeal that "aborted play" bullshit call but they should. That makes Brett Farve's dive even more insulting.

Agree.

[DesertSteel]

I’d like to know why he didn’t get half a sack when he and Heyward sacked Huntley on Heywards penalty. It was still a sack…

That is what I was screaming too.

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I believe it should still count as a sack? I guess not…

Personal fouls don't negate the play but adds to it. Should be a 1/2 sack.

[HollywoodSteel]

That is what I was screaming too.

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Personal fouls don't negate the play but adds to it. Should be a 1/2 sack.

I think that is only true on post whistle penalties. Otherwise the defensive penalty takes away the sack. They mark off the 15 from the original line of scrimmage, not from the spot of the would be sack.

[DesertSteel]

I think that is only true on post whistle penalties. Otherwise the defensive penalty takes away the sack. They mark off the 15 from the original line of scrimmage, not from the spot of the would be sack.

Dang! 1.5 sacks taken away, but the Steelers win so I'll take it.

[Iron Steeler]

Can someone please explain to me why the first sack fumble had in this game was not counted?

[katmandu]

Can someone please explain to me why the first sack fumble had in this game was not counted?

Thread on that here..... -->> http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...t-a-Sack-by-TJ

[steelreserve]

I think that is only true on post whistle penalties. Otherwise the defensive penalty takes away the sack. They mark off the 15 from the original line of scrimmage, not from the spot of the would be sack.

I don't think it's before/after the whistle that decides it. There are plays where, for example, it's an interception and there's a personal foul during the runback, but the defense still keeps the ball. But in this case (and most cases) it's essentially the same thing.

If I remember correctly, the rule is that a personal foul by the defense on a play that goes beyond the line of scrimmage adds to the play and the play still counts, but a personal foul on the defense beyond the line of scrimmage is marked off from the LOS and therefore negates the play. Still a shitty call though.

[Born2Steel]

1st one… Once the snap was muffed/fumbled it became a recovery and the player that recovered is not eligible to be ‘sacked’. Even if it was the QB.

2nd one/half sack… The penalty negates the play. (Replay down). If the Ravens had declined the penalty Cam and Watt should have been credited with a half sack each.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Don't know what everyone is talking about. The Steelers recovered after Watt's strip sack and the ball was spotted exactly where the ball was recovered 1st & 10.

Watt was robbed and it needs to be corrected or else this will happen again to another player.

[Drazo85]

1st one… Once the snap was muffed/fumbled it became a recovery and the player that recovered is not eligible to be ‘sacked’. Even if it was the QB.

2nd one/half sack… The penalty negates the play. (Replay down). If the Ravens had declined the penalty Cam and Watt should have been credited with a half sack each.

I have one question. Was Huntley eligible to throw it? If not then this makes sense.

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[pczach]

I have one question. Was Huntley eligible to throw it? If not then this makes sense.

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He could have still thrown the ball once he got up. Watt hit him before he could get all the way up and caused the fumble. It was a muffed snap, but the play isn't dead.

[BlackAndGold]

At least give him a .5 sack. It's not the defenses fault they got to him. Unless I'm wrong and Huntley couldn't have thrown the ball once secured(wasn't secured because sack)

[steelreserve]

I have one question. Was Huntley eligible to throw it? If not then this makes sense.

The scorer ruled that it was a rushing attempt after that point. Which is horseshit if you ask me. It was a passing play from the shotgun with an empty backfield. They don't rule it a rushing play and no sack every time the quarterback gets pressured and scrambles, and this is no different. That rule is supposed to be for designed running plays, and this was designed as a pass.

[86WARD]

That is what I was screaming too.

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Personal fouls don't negate the play but adds to it. Should be a 1/2 sack.

When a penalty is enforced from the previous spot (line of scrimmage or spot of a kickoff or free kick), no rushing attempt, pass, sack, punt, or field-goal attempt is recorded, except if there is a loss of down. This includes all live-ball penalties where the play ends at or behind the line of scrimmage.

NOTE: Penalties for hits to a defenseless receiver should be enforced from the previous spot.

[86WARD]

Sacks (Defensive)

Credit a sack to the appropriate defensive player whenever a sack is scored against the offensive team, subject to the following principles:

1. When the player making an apparent attempt to pass is tackled or downed at or behind the statistical line of scrimmage, credit a sack to the defensive player who tackled or downed the potential passer. If a defender pushes an offensive player into the potential passer, knocking him down and ending the play, or the contact results in a fumble, credit a sack to the appropriate defensive player.

EXCEPTION: If the potential passer fumbles on his own prior to any such contact, no sack is credited to any individual defensive player, unless he recovers his own fumble and attempts to advance or pass the ball. However, credit the defensive team with a sack. The number of defensive sacks should be equal to the number of offensive sacks.

[lipps83]

Just read an article that says TJ got it back.

Until they take it away from him again.

[HollywoodSteel]

Just read an article that says TJ got it back.

Until they take it away from him again.

I didn’t see that. Do you have a link?

[katmandu]

Just read an article that says TJ got it back.

Until they take it away from him again.

Post the link to the article.

[HollywoodSteel]

Post the link to the article.

I don’t think it’s possible that they already awarded him the sack. They don’t review these types of things until after the final night game is played

Here’s what I read:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.act...w-possible/amp

[fansince'76]

Considering that Favre flopped to give Strahan the "record," Watt has already broken it, in my book.

[katmandu]

I don’t think it’s possible that they already awarded him the sack. They don’t review these types of things until after the final night game is played

Here’s what I read:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.act...w-possible/amp

Oh man! I didn't ponder the gambling (MONEY) part of this. Now this is a REALLY BFD !