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    New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    It's off season time. To say the steelers have o cap space and a lot to address is an understatement. So hope turns to the draft because if you can nail it here, you have a good group of player signed for cheap for 4-5 years.

    First order of business, find a new quarterback. Ben isn't worth 41 million a year. Not even close. Please retire now and save us cap space. This is a mock before the college all star games and the combine

    1 ) QB. Mac Jones. His play speaks for itself but to answer uninformed critics. He's not slow and has pocket mobility. Runs about a 4.8, but above and beyond that he's hard to sack thanks to a quick release and good mental processing. The arm looks good to me. I never seen his receivers slowing down or waiting for the deep ball, nor do I see many of his passes being swatted. Or a DB breaking on it due to giving it too much air time / lack of velocity. At age 22, with a later birthday, he's got some upside to fill physically.

    2 ) C Josh Meyers. Poucney is old, weak, slow and snaps it all over the place. Did I mentioned expensive too? This guys is big, strong and can move some. Exactly what we need.

    3 ) RB Javonte Williams. A well built player with speed. He runs and catches it for a high average.

    4 ) OT Thayer Munford. A good looking OSU Lineman. We need tackles.

    6 ) OT Tyler Vrabel. Has NFL bloodlines. One of these two tackles needs to pan out. Chucks isn't a long term answer and Big Al might leave via free agency

    7A ) WR Amari Rodgers. Predictive at Clemson. Ju-Ju is gone. Ideal in the slot.

    7B ) DT/NT Naquan Jones. Came on later. Could be a steal. His production in 7 goes is impressive. A huge man.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Creed Humphrey has declared for the draft.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Fields or Wilson will slide to the 13-15 area and I say trade up and get your QB. I'll pass on Jones and Trask.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Fields or Wilson will slide to the 13-15 area and I say trade up and get your QB. I'll pass on Jones and Trask.
    Im no scout(obviously)Fields is a great QB but it scares me how no OSU QBs seem to pan out. Is he better than Haskins , Barrett or Troy Smith?

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    Id take a gamble on Jones, Trask no thanks

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    My mock sim

    PIT 31.Mac Jones QB Alabama (traded down)
    PIT 55. Josh Myers OC Ohio State
    PIT 63. Javonte Williams RB North Carolina
    PIT 87. Tommy Tremble TE Notre Dame
    PIT 118. Ifeatu Melifonwu CB Syracuse
    PIT 208. Jordon Scott DT Oregon
    PIT 218. Robert Hainsey OT Notre Dame

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    Im no scout(obviously)Fields is a great QB but it scares me how no OSU QBs seem to pan out. Is he better than Haskins , Barrett or Troy Smith?

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    Id take a gamble on Jones, Trask no thanks
    I have to agree... OSU QBs just havenít made a dent in the NFL.

    Could pick Jamie Newman late 2nd -early to mid 3rd and have comparable.


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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Nice mock.

    As Iíve stated numerous times, Iím not a fan of Mac Jones, but I get the idea (and I like a QB in R1 better than taking a RB).

    Iíve mentioned Myers in R2 (I think itís who they were scouting a few weeks back when Colbert was in attendance at an OSU game).

    I love the idea of a RB in R3. IMO, itís the sweet spot for RBs. I like the UNC RBs, although I think that Javonte Williams is the second RB drafted. (Ergo, insert Michael Carter here.)

    Back-to-back OTs. Great idea. We need backups at both spots; plus, itís the shotgun effect (youíre bound to hit on one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Fields or Wilson will slide to the 13-15 area and I say trade up and get your QB. I'll pass on Jones and Trask.
    After the Northwestern game, I stated that Fields would indeed drop. He scares me, because any sort of pressure and he becomes very innacurate.

    If Wilson drops anywhere near 10, Iíd trade up immediately!!!

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Fields or Wilson will slide to the 13-15 area and I say trade up and get your QB. I'll pass on Jones and Trask.
    If they slide that far, I for sure go after moving up to get your QB.

    Personally, I would prefer Fields. The young man was the #2 rated QB prospect in Highschool and now the #2 or #3 rated prospect in the NFL draft. Long pedigree of success, strong arm, throws the ball well in tight windows, moves well in the pocket and at 230 LBS, runs a 4.5 to get out of the pocket if needed. Good family background, doesnt seem like a prima donna, established himself quickly as a leader when he transferred to OSU.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    I see the Falcons looking very hard at Fields at #4.

    Incoming GM and head coach... aging Matt Ryan with a big salary... Fields from GA... just a thought.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMember View Post
    I see the Falcons looking very hard at Fields at #4.

    Incoming GM and head coach... aging Matt Ryan with a big salary... Fields from GA... just a thought.
    Yup, and with Carolina, Detroit, Denver at 7,8,9 I dont see the 3rd best QB getting out of the top 10.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    If they slide that far, I for sure go after moving up to get your QB.

    Personally, I would prefer Fields. The young man was the #2 rated QB prospect in Highschool and now the #2 or #3 rated prospect in the NFL draft. Long pedigree of success, strong arm, throws the ball well in tight windows, moves well in the pocket and at 230 LBS, runs a 4.5 to get out of the pocket if needed. Good family background, doesnt seem like a prima donna, established himself quickly as a leader when he transferred to OSU.
    I didn't see anything out of him last night that would discourage me from taking him next after Lawrence. He's tough, smart, a great leader, athletic and has an NFL arm.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I didn't see anything out of him last night that would discourage me from taking him next after Lawrence. He's tough, smart, a great leader, athletic and has an NFL arm.
    McShay says that Wilson gets thru his reads faster than Fields and that is why he puts Wilson ahead of Fields. Says that Fields gets stuck on receivers at times, but last night the broadcast crew highlighted a couple times where he got thru them well, but its nothing that some coaching should not be able to improve at the pro level. Like I said, I dont think either of them gets out of the top 9.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    Im no scout(obviously)Fields is a great QB but it scares me how no OSU QBs seem to pan out. Is he better than Haskins , Barrett or Troy Smith?

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    Id take a gamble on Jones, Trask no thanks
    Don't forget about Cardale Jones and Braxton Miller. You might as well throw Tim Tebow in there as well, since he was an Urban Meyer QB at florida. Heck, Joe Burrow got out of OSU and flourished. I would stay way far away from any Urban Meyer/Ryan Day QB.

    Remember Omar Jacobs? From the same system.

    Alex Smith might be the most successful QB that was coached by Urban Meyer and his disciples.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecoat96 View Post
    Don't forget about Cardale Jones and Braxton Miller. You might as well throw Tim Tebow in there as well, since he was an Urban Meyer QB at florida. Heck, Joe Burrow got out of OSU and flourished. I would stay way far away from any Urban Meyer/Ryan Day QB.

    Remember Omar Jacobs? From the same system.

    Alex Smith might be the most successful QB that was coached by Urban Meyer and his disciples.

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    Solid point. Alex Smith was coached by Andy Reid in the NFL.
    Tomlin is 1-5 in his last 6 games. He lead the team to another collapse, and is 3-7 in his last 10 playoff games. The last time the Steelers won a playoff game it was 2016. The standard remains the standard.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecoat96 View Post
    Don't forget about Cardale Jones and Braxton Miller. You might as well throw Tim Tebow in there as well, since he was an Urban Meyer QB at florida. Heck, Joe Burrow got out of OSU and flourished. I would stay way far away from any Urban Meyer/Ryan Day QB.

    Remember Omar Jacobs? From the same system.

    Alex Smith might be the most successful QB that was coached by Urban Meyer and his disciples.

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    Of those QBs, only Smith and Tebow were high round picks. I think Fields is going to do well.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Of those QBs, only Smith and Tebow were high round picks. I think Fields is going to do well.

    Why is that? He's an OSU systems guy who has had issues vs. lesser teams and pressure. I thought he was better last season. This season he threw 6 picks in 8 games during the regular season. What happens once he enters the NFL? Gulp.

    He is good in college due to his legs but he not Lamar Jackson fast. Fields only average 4.7 yards a carry in college this season. In the year before that number was 3.5 yard per rush. Move than down once he faces NFL defenders. I doubt he runs a 4.5 More like 4.65.
    Tomlin is 1-5 in his last 6 games. He lead the team to another collapse, and is 3-7 in his last 10 playoff games. The last time the Steelers won a playoff game it was 2016. The standard remains the standard.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Urban Meyer gets the first pick. We'll know more about Fields if the Jags take him or Lawrence with that pick.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Only thing I don’t like about Najee Harris is he’s gonna turn 23 in March. That’s old. Especially for a Running Back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Urban Meyer gets the first pick. We'll know more about Fields if the Jags take him or Lawrence with that pick.
    Not really. I’d bet that Lawrence was part of the hiring agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Why is that? He's an OSU systems guy who has had issues vs. lesser teams and pressure. I thought he was better last season. This season he threw 6 picks in 8 games during the regular season. What happens once he enters the NFL? Gulp.

    He is good in college due to his legs but he not Lamar Jackson fast. Fields only average 4.7 yards a carry in college this season. In the year before that number was 3.5 yard per rush. Move than down once he faces NFL defenders. I doubt he runs a 4.5 More like 4.65.
    Was Clemson a lesser team?

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Why is that? He's an OSU systems guy who has had issues vs. lesser teams and pressure. I thought he was better last season. This season he threw 6 picks in 8 games during the regular season. What happens once he enters the NFL? Gulp.

    He is good in college due to his legs but he not Lamar Jackson fast. Fields only average 4.7 yards a carry in college this season. In the year before that number was 3.5 yard per rush. Move than down once he faces NFL defenders. I doubt he runs a 4.5 More like 4.65.
    Well, judging by the grammar and overall poor writing, at least we know you wrote this one! Good for you!

    FWIW, I also think Fields will be less than amazing in the NFL...but I was certain (absolutely certain) the same was true for Herbert last year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Why is that? He's an OSU systems guy who has had issues vs. lesser teams and pressure. I thought he was better last season. This season he threw 6 picks in 8 games during the regular season. What happens once he enters the NFL? Gulp.

    He is good in college due to his legs but he not Lamar Jackson fast. Fields only average 4.7 yards a carry in college this season. In the year before that number was 3.5 yard per rush. Move than down once he faces NFL defenders. I doubt he runs a 4.5 More like 4.65.
    Well, judging by the grammar and overall poor writing, at least we know you wrote this one! Good for you!

    FWIW, I also think Fields will be less than amazing in the NFL...but I was certain (absolutely certain) the same was true for Herbert last year!

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    FWIW, I also think Fields will be less than amazing in the NFL...but I was certain (absolutely certain) the same was true for Herbert last year!
    Less than amazing? Wow! That covers about 95% of the NFL. Way to go with that call! I'm absolutely certain you don't know much about football. Do you think this is Tomlin last year coaching the Steelers too?
    Tomlin is 1-5 in his last 6 games. He lead the team to another collapse, and is 3-7 in his last 10 playoff games. The last time the Steelers won a playoff game it was 2016. The standard remains the standard.

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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Less than amazing? Wow! That covers about 95% of the NFL. Way to go with that call! I'm absolutely certain you don't know much about football. Do you think this is Tomlin last year coaching the Steelers too?
    Actually thereís a lot of people on both sides of Fields. Some think he will be great, some think he could be picked over Trevor Lawrence at the number one spot. Some think he could be taken by Philadelphia...a team that needs no QB and then there are some that donít think he will be good at all...follow in the steps of JT Barrett and Dwayne Haskins. So why discredit Mojouwís thoughts and opinions on the player? Heís a player of much debate right now.


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    Re: New mock, we pick 24thoverall

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    Creed Humphrey has declared for the draft.
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