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    2020 NFL Draft offensive line rankings: Jedrick Wills at No. 1 in second-best position group in the class

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...-in-the-class/

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    2020 NFL Draft: Latest positional rankings show plenty of options for the Steelers

    The Pittsburgh Steelers might not have a first round pick, but they certainly will have options when it comes to adding quality talent to their team in the upcoming draft process.

    By Jeff.Hartman
    Feb 17, 2020

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...rs-rumors-news

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    Re: 2020 Draft Prospects Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    2020 NFL Draft offensive line rankings: Jedrick Wills at No. 1 in second-best position group in the class

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...-in-the-class/
    Interesting how they have Ben Bredeson from Michigan ranked so low and Jack Driscoll of Auburn so high. I thought Bredeson showed that he is a between the tackle mauler at the Senior Bowl. I like Driscoll, but he looked more like a tall, athletic technician at RT in the Shrine game that probably needs to bulk up and get stronger to move inside, or even be more a force at RT in the next level.

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    Re: 2020 Draft Prospects Thread

    2020 NFL Draft Player Profiles: LSU TE Thaddeus Moss

    #81 Thaddeus Moss/TE LSU – 6’3 249

    https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/20...thaddeus-moss/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    2020 NFL Draft Player Profiles: LSU TE Thaddeus Moss

    #81 Thaddeus Moss/TE LSU – 6’3 249

    https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/20...thaddeus-moss/
    It's going to be interesting to see his combine numbers. Not sure #1 TE potential is there.

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    Re: 2020 Draft Prospects Thread

    https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...drew-rosenhaus

    FYI, Hargrave has signed with The Drew.

    I officially moving interior DL to the top of the Steelers' draft needs.

    NT Nevil Gallimore, Oklahoma
    DT Ross Blackwell, TCU
    DT Raekwon Davis, Alabama

    Gallimore is the clear choice of this group. But we're going to need a quick, big ugly up front without Hargrave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I think he goes in the 2nd round. Shows some basketball type use of body and footwork to make contested catches. I see some similarities to Devin Funchess, but Claypool looks like a better route runner and blocker IMO. Although, a slow 40 always moves WR's up or down in the process.


    He weighed in at 238 and ran a 4.42! I thought he would run well, but he exceeded my expectations. I already believed he was a threat down the field, but he really showed explosiveness and good hands to go with that size and the ability to make contested catches.

    Teams have been talking about drafting him as a TE, but with that speed? He has the frame to put on more weight, and remain a very athletic and fast player. He could be a matchup nightmare for defenses.

    I really like this kid and thought he could be a steal and a possibility for the Steelers. He is so physical as a blocker and WR. I thought he might go under the radar a bit, but after that 40 time.....no chance.
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    Dalton Keene TE VaTech, 6'4" - 253lbs.
    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dalton...6-98afe41da3cd

    Best game look i can find on him
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7okNbUuGq8

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    The more I hear about some of these RBs that are going to be available in R2, I wouldn't mind going that way. Taylor or Dobbins would look good in Black and Gold. RB might be the best value in R2... and I see it as a position of need. What we have right now is not getting it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    The more I hear about some of these RBs that are going to be available in R2, I wouldn't mind going that way. Taylor or Dobbins would look good in Black and Gold. RB might be the best value in R2... and I see it as a position of need. What we have right now is not getting it done.
    Taylor just ran a 4.39. No way he last until out pick in round two.

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jonath...1-5dd6b2d0b829

    This RB class could use a bit more depth. I like JK Dobbins too. For whatever reason , this RB class lacks speed and has issues with fumbling, at least many of the top prospects. We might have to roll with Conner if the value isn't there for us in round 2-3. No reaching at RB.

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    Jonathan Taylor RB Wisconsin, 5'11" - 219lbs:

    926 carries in 3 years, zero fumbles, 6174 total rushing yards, 50TDs.
    42 receptions in 3 years, 407 receiving yards, 5TDs.

    Highlight films to show game speed in the open field, power vs 1on1 tacklers, and ability to make defenders miss.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq6kHjLblE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Nld92MN0Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTiHYnvlGKY

    Game films to show receiving, blocking, pass pro, etc...all from 2019 season

    vs Mich State
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVCoKokn0o

    vs Iowa
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgVytqLfJ6A

    vs USF
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZYMXBa37qU

    vs Michigan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMKTyCpDTro

    vs Illinois
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTSwqa1BHFI

    sidenote: also in these game films take a look at the center #61 Tyler Biadasz

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    Adam Trautman TE Dayton 6'5" - 251lbs

    Game film vs Drake 2019
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4xbWYMTF0

    vs San Diego
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0iDwEYLZVk

    vs Jacksonville
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ccXP6eE8w


    Somebody requested game film for Dayton and specifically Trautman in another thread. Enjoy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Adam Trautman TE Dayton 6'5" - 251lbs

    Game film vs Drake 2019
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4xbWYMTF0

    vs San Diego
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0iDwEYLZVk

    vs Jacksonville
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ccXP6eE8w


    Somebody requested game film for Dayton and specifically Trautman in another thread. Enjoy...

    that 4.8 or whatever it was is gonna hurt his stock guess that is why he was at Dayton , shame because I read some good stuff on him but fear 4.8 is just gonna be to slow for most teams to spend any real draft capital on him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    that 4.8 or whatever it was is gonna hurt his stock guess that is why he was at Dayton , shame because I read some good stuff on him but fear 4.8 is just gonna be to slow for most teams to spend any real draft capital on him
    Keep in mind that is 4.8 at 6'5" and 250lbs. That is not terrible just not WR speed. He would run mostly shallow crosses or seam routes so hopefully trying to get open against LBs. 4.8 is nothing special but not a terrible 40 time for a TE. What I like to watch is can he pass protect/pass pro and release, and how does he block in space on the move. Beyond that is how well he catches the ball. All this to say I don't think he goes until the 3rd/4th rounds but all of them are projects this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Keep in mind that is 4.8 at 6'5" and 250lbs. That is not terrible just not WR speed. He would run mostly shallow crosses or seam routes so hopefully trying to get open against LBs. 4.8 is nothing special but not a terrible 40 time for a TE. What I like to watch is can he pass protect/pass pro and release, and how does he block in space on the move. Beyond that is how well he catches the ball. All this to say I don't think he goes until the 3rd/4th rounds but all of them are projects this year.
    Very True. Did you see that Trautman had the best 3-cone time of 6.78 seconds for TE and the 2nd best short Shuttle time of 4.27 seconds? In comparison, WR Jerry Jeudy had a short shuttle time of 4.53, WR Denzell Mims of Baylor had a 4.43 in the short shuttle.

    So a guy like Trautman is posting better short area quickness times as a 250 lb TE than most of the 190-200 lb wide receivers that run 4.4 in the 40? That is what shows up on film as what kind of a route runner he can be getting open underneath. As you say, the 4.80 isn't bad for a TE and also, he looked very fluid in receiving drills in pads a the Senior bowl, which you cant tell as much at the Underwear Olympics that is the Combine.

    I think the process of Combine, Senior Bowl, Video are all pointing to the evidence that Adam Trautman is : A big TE ,that is a good athlete that runs good routes and gets in and out of breaks well, while also being a decent blocker. The only question is his level of experience at the position and playing against top competition.

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    Jonathan Garvin Edge Miami, 6'4"-250

    Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dWehHsbPhE

    vs Florida: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPwL7MtzqOE

    vs Florida State 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz6LELSJYNY

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    For those wanting a RB early in this draft.

    Antonio Gibson RB/WR/Returner Memphis, 6'2"-222lbs, 4.39/40 official

    Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKm9IkvBopI

    vs SMU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRYPJHZHrPI

    vs PSU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNMWh1cJiZc

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    I don't believe the Steelers will select a QB in this draft but you know, never say never. Putting the 3 I find the most intriguing prospects on here. Jordan Love, Jacob Eason, and Jalen Hurts. Obviously we won't even get a sniff of Burrow, I just can't trust Tua's injury history at his size, and Fromm is a statue in the pocket and we already have one of those.


    Jordan Love QB Utah State, 6'4"-225lbs
    Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ki92VlkEic
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tKm6UcwCNY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xANSRoxDR6o

    College stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...an-love-2.html


    Jacob Eason QB Washington, 6'6"-227lbs
    Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q5Xz7lfPx0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QED8fgJiSNM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5kUi19Q7pU

    College stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...b-eason-1.html


    Jalen Hurts QB Bama/Oklahoma, 6'2"-218lbs
    Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yxJFTZNFIY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdRU1vIfAIo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzt3aUqdlA

    College stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...n-hurts-1.html
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    Re: 2020 Draft Prospects Thread

    Not sure if highlights or game film would be of much interest on the "big uglies". Anyway here is a list of C/G prospects I would consider at pick #49. Some of these names may be a lower value on many big boards but considering the Steelers don't pick again until #102, these names will hold a higher value in the Steelers warroom, IMO and could very well be in play at #49.

    In no particular order but these guys are considered both C/G prospects and therefore IOL flexibility.

    1. Lloyd Cushenberry LSU
    2. Cesar Ruiz Michigan
    3. Jonah Jackson OSU
    4. Tyler Biadasz Wisconsin
    5. Matt Hennessy Temple

    I would have zero issue with any of these guys being the pick at #49 and I believe all could step in immediately if the need arose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    How did Teeg not comment on Highsmith? I would like to see him in B&G, so therefore it will not happen.

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    How did Teeg not comment on Highsmith? I would like to see him in B&G, so therefore it will not happen.
    I posted my top 4 Edge defenders that I think have a chance to drop. Okwara 2nd? Anae 3rd? Highsmith 4th? Garvin 5th? From what I see on their tape are guys that can win one on one against OTs, have primary rush moves and secondary counter moves at least, and show some ability to play in space. Still have to question can they hold an edge against the run. I still don't think any of these guys are round 1 talent but quality depth and special teams contributors day 1, and high ceiling prospects. There are some tweener guys, DE/OLB, that I don't think are a fit this draft. I think if the steelers go DL it will be interior DL and just not enough picks to get every position. For instance, I could see a Gallimore pick at 2 if he fell and then not taking OLB depth at all. OR getting an early/mid round OLB and looking for a Benito Jones type later. Also on the back end of the defense, I see a Safety being selected but one that can also play nickel LB role. Same on the offensive side of the ball. Need OC/OG help so this pick should be a position flexible guy. I see this being a very nuanced and interesting draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    How did Teeg not comment on Highsmith? I would like to see him in B&G,so therefore it will not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    How did Teeg not comment on Highsmith? I would like to see him in B&G, so therefore it will not happen.
    He is FaceTiming with the Steelers today!!!

    Oh... I see that BlackAndGold already reported it. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Very True. Did you see that Trautman had the best 3-cone time of 6.78 seconds for TE and the 2nd best short Shuttle time of 4.27 seconds? In comparison, WR Jerry Jeudy had a short shuttle time of 4.53, WR Denzell Mims of Baylor had a 4.43 in the short shuttle.

    So a guy like Trautman is posting better short area quickness times as a 250 lb TE than most of the 190-200 lb wide receivers that run 4.4 in the 40? That is what shows up on film as what kind of a route runner he can be getting open underneath. As you say, the 4.80 isn't bad for a TE and also, he looked very fluid in receiving drills in pads a the Senior bowl, which you cant tell as much at the Underwear Olympics that is the Combine.

    I think the process of Combine, Senior Bowl, Video are all pointing to the evidence that Adam Trautman is : A big TE ,that is a good athlete that runs good routes and gets in and out of breaks well, while also being a decent blocker. The only question is his level of experience at the position and playing against top competition.
    Very good points. 4.27 shuttle is good for a DB, meaning he can explode side to side quickly and the cone time 6.78 shows change of direction and cutting ability when running. I believe Health Miller ran a 4.8

    If we don't pick a TE in round two, I'd be happy taking Trautman in round three. He's be worth that pick. Based on what I saw he can block and catch.


    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/adam-t...9-8ca51b1f74be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Very good points. 4.27 shuttle is good for a DB, meaning he can explode side to side quickly and the cone time 6.78 shows change of direction and cutting ability when running. I believe Health Miller ran a 4.8

    If we don't pick a TE in round two, I'd be happy taking Trautman in round three. He's be worth that pick. Based on what I saw he can block and catch.



    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/adam-t...9-8ca51b1f74be
    What did you see? Can you post any of it? Post #72 was all I could find on Trautman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    What did you see? Can you post any of it? Post #72 was all I could find on Trautman.
    Just google up "Adam Trautman Senior Bowl practice" and add blocking, route running, etc and you can find all you need.

    I watched the coverage that week and there were cases where the commentators, evaluators, etc said "Trautman runs routes better than some of the receivers here". "nice down block by Trautman on the D tackle", "Trautman is making a case as being the best TE here this week".

    I watched the San Diego game that you posted and pm'd Shoes a couple months ago to keep an eye out for Trautman in the process. He flashes the skills on tape, but the question was how would he do against top D1 talent and he showed the week in Mobile that he can win against them. I personally like him and Harrison Bryant the best out of FAU as potential fits for the Steelers.

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