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    Munchak ??

    rumors swirling he will not be retained by the Bronco's ...

    Broncos 0-Line was anything but special under his watch ...

    He was great here , we have an opening if he would come back should we try and get him back ??


    I say YES!!!!
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Of course if he want to be back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Of course if he want to be back!

    agreed.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    No doubt about that he great things with the Steelers.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    One of the reasons Munchak left Pittsburgh was he was disgusted by all of the drama surrounding the team. That was the AB meltdown time period.

    I highly doubt he would entertain the idea of returning while Tomlin is still driving the clown car.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorndikeFFA View Post
    One of the reasons Munchak left Pittsburgh was he was disgusted by all of the drama surrounding the team. That was the AB meltdown time period.

    I highly doubt he would entertain the idea of returning while Tomlin is still driving the clown car.

    from my understanding the reason he wanted out was to be near his daughter and grandchildren who live in the Denver area .........
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    from my understanding the reason he wanted out was to be near his daughter and grandchildren who live in the Denver area .........
    Shhh! Don't distract him with the facts. He's on his talking point roll. Between him and Steeldude's recent re-appearance, I almost have my Steelers Off-Season message board bingo card filled out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Shhh! Don't distract him with the facts. He's on his talking point roll. Between him and Steeldude's recent re-appearance, I almost have my Steelers Off-Season message board bingo card filled out.
    And it was more on AB and also Bell,the drama that the steelers had in 2018...Since this time,not a lot of drama for the steelers

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    Re: Munchak ??

    I would love to see Munch back, But i don't think that will happen, it sounds like he wants to do the family thing being close to his daughter plus I really don't think he needs the money or headaches with this O-line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    from my understanding the reason he wanted out was to be near his daughter and grandchildren who live in the Denver area .........
    This

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    Re: Munchak ??

    If he's available and wants to come back, hell yes

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Let's bring back Cowher too!!

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    Re: Munchak ??

    His performance in Pittsburgh was great. I would welcome him back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorndikeFFA View Post
    One of the reasons Munchak left Pittsburgh was he was disgusted by all of the drama surrounding the team. That was the AB meltdown time period.

    I highly doubt he would entertain the idea of returning while Tomlin is still driving the clown car.
    Yeah, instead he opted for a lateral transfer to the shitshow that the Denver Broncos have been ever since since Bowlen stepped down due to Alzheimer's and his daughters have been engaged in an extended catfight over ownership of the team. Awesome career move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    from my understanding the reason he wanted out was to be near his daughter and grandchildren who live in the Denver area .........
    This. Munchak himself even made mention of that being the reason.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    No drama since AB left? Did you fall and hit your head?

    I admit that my take on this sort of thing is shaded by my abject hate for anything Tomlin. The sight of the man makes me dry heave.

    Now, will some of you also admit to your non-stop Tomlin nut hugging? I already know the answer.

    Munchak has been a solid player and coach around the NFL for a long time. Of course he's not going to make a public statement. Duh! But I also recall a lot of people discussing this at the time. If you don't think that the constant drama wasn't a factor in our best OL coach in decades moving on you're deluding yourself.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorndikeFFA View Post
    I admit that my take on this sort of thing is shaded by my abject hate for anything Tomlin. The sight of the man makes me dry heave.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    Thousand-yard stare!


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    Re: Munchak ??

    c'mon....(in response for post 15)

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    Re: Munchak ??

    they should give him a call, i just hope they're willing to open the wallet for a coaching staff this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    they should give him a call, i just hope they're willing to open the wallet for a coaching staff this year.
    I can't help but wonder if the Steelers can't afford better? After all, Dan and Art II were saddled with all that debt back in 2008 when they were forced to restructure ownership because Dan's siblings owned *GASP* racetracks, never minding that the league in 2022 has a team in Vegas and every other commercial during a game now is for a sports betting app.


    The Rooneys are part of the NFL's (fading) old guard (which, IMO, Goodell has gone to great lengths to marginalize) and were never billionaires like pretty much the rest of the league's ownership are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    I can't help but wonder if the Steelers can't afford better? After all, Dan and Art II were saddled with all that debt back in 2008 when they were forced to restructure ownership because Dan's siblings owned *GASP* racetracks, never minding that the league in 2022 has a team in Vegas and every other commercial during a game now is for a sports betting app.


    The Rooneys are part of the NFL's (fading) old guard (which, IMO, Goodell has gone to great lengths to marginalize) and were never billionaires like pretty much the rest of the league's ownership are.
    they’ve always been tight with money, even during the 70’s, but then they shell out big bucks for Ben and TJ. As far as coaching staffs, they probably haven’t been convinced or haven’t caught up to the new ways of assembling a staff. Like you said they’re an old school organization

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    they’ve always been tight with money, even during the 70’s, but then they shell out big bucks for Ben and TJ. As far as coaching staffs, they probably haven’t been convinced or haven’t caught up to the new ways of assembling a staff. Like you said they’re an old school organization
    The Rooneys' multimillionaire wealth has come strictly from the NFL, whereas the owners of pretty much every other team are all multibillionaires whose wealth came from the corporate world. Art II is probably the "poorest" owner in the league, relatively speaking, and by a large margin.

    There's a huge difference between being a multimillionaire and a multibillionaire. That's why I always found Seahawks' fans charges of the Rooneys paying off the refs in SB XL laughable when Paul Allen could have bought and sold the Rooneys 100 times over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    they’ve always been tight with money, even during the 70’s, but then they shell out big bucks for Ben and TJ. As far as coaching staffs, they probably haven’t been convinced or haven’t caught up to the new ways of assembling a staff. Like you said they’re an old school organization

    Exactly that's why we call them the cheap Rooneys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    they’ve always been tight with money, even during the 70’s, but then they shell out big bucks for Ben and TJ. As far as coaching staffs, they probably haven’t been convinced or haven’t caught up to the new ways of assembling a staff. Like you said they’re an old school organization
    You do realize the coaches salary and players contracts come from two very different sacks of money. Please post coaches salaries. I can’t find it. How incredibly cheap are the Rooneys? That whole “DI-VEST” thing was ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    That whole “DI-VEST” thing was ludicrous.
    Indeed. Considering the way the league is in bed with all kinds of gambling interests nowadays, the hypocrisy's so thick you could cut it with a knife. But it's been painfully obvious for years that the "Mom & Pop" Rooneys just don't fit with Goodell's "corporate vision" for the NFL, so...

    It's amazing that they've been able to continue to field a halfway competitive product at all.

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    Re: Munchak ??

    I think the whole the Rooneys are cheap thing is basically a myth. Maybe decades ago? I don't know.

    But in the cap era, they are one of the ONLY teams that spends to the cap every year. I seem to remember Cowher being pretty well compensated and there are numerous reports that Tomlin is one of the highest paid coaches in the league.

    Plus, have they ever lost a coach over salary? Have they ever interviewed, offered, and had a coach turn it down? I don't remember that happening.

    What is the evidence of the Rooney's being cheap? I am not aware of any.

    It is very true that they are perhaps the most cash poor ownership group in the league...but they seem to always find a way to pony up.

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    Da Raidahs paid $100 million for Gruden.

    More expensive does not always mean better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think the whole the Rooneys are cheap thing is basically a myth. Maybe decades ago? I don't know.

    But in the cap era, they are one of the ONLY teams that spends to the cap every year. I seem to remember Cowher being pretty well compensated and there are numerous reports that Tomlin is one of the highest paid coaches in the league.

    Plus, have they ever lost a coach over salary? Have they ever interviewed, offered, and had a coach turn it down? I don't remember that happening.

    What is the evidence of the Rooney's being cheap? I am not aware of any.

    It is very true that they are perhaps the most cash poor ownership group in the league...but they seem to always find a way to pony up.
    The NFL has a built-in guaranteed profit for every team through its shared revenue split. You literally cannot lose money even if you are spending all the way up to the cap and paying your staff lavishly. You would need to be on some other capital expenditure spree, and not much will do it unless it's financing a new stadium. I think the Cardinals managed to record a net loss straight-up once, like 20 years ago when they were terrible, and it was only a couple million, and they're one of the only teams ever to do it in the salary cap era.

    Bottom line, being "cheap" is a myth. There is no advantage whatsoever anymore if the owner has more money. Also, even if there was - the Rooneys are the face of the franchise, but they own the minimum 30% or close to it. The "minority" owners are the standard list of big money from Wall Street and elsewhere, and put together are probably the majority (not sure how much the McGinley family still owns).
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    Re: Munchak ??

    https://www.audacy.com/937thefan/spo...steelers-coach

    Pro Football Hall of Famer Mike Munchak hinting on the Cook and Joe Show on 93.7 The Fan Friday that the Steelers called him about returning as the offensive line coach in 2022
    Fingers crossed!



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