We agree on 6/7 of those player assessments* ... which isn’t bad considering people rarely agree with anyone on everything.Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
*(we disagree about Fields)
We agree on 6/7 of those player assessments* ... which isn’t bad considering people rarely agree with anyone on everything.
*(we disagree about Fields)
Im not all about anything. People should be judged on actions and merit including experience and track record. Not skin color or gender.
I agree 100%, unfortunately our world isn't quite there yet.
There are 7 QBs who could possibly get drafted in R1:
Lawrence
Wilson
Fields
Lance
Jones
Trask
Newman
If teams like the Jets, Lions, or Falcons select a QB, their current starters might be traded.
SUMMATION:
There is going to be a lot of new faces at the QB position around the league.
If it’s not Ben, Rudolph and Dobson, it’s gonna be Rudolph, Dobson and Duck. Remember, this organization never makes drastic changes and always gives their guys a chance. They’ll probably wind up drafting OL or LB. it’s what they do,
OPTION 1 - Trading up:
R1: 740
R2: 350
R3: 155
Comp: 100
R4: 50
1090 R1 & R2 ... 14th overall pick (Vikings)
1245 R1, R2, R3 ... 11th overall (Giants)
1345 R1, R2, R3, Comp ... 9th overall (Broncos)
1400 R1, R2, R3, Comp, R4 ... 8th overall (Panthers)
The Lions (7), Panthers, and Broncos couid all take a QB. If we wanted to move ahead of them, we would need to get up to #6. We don’t have quite enough draft capital... then again, if the Eagles are willing, nothing is set in stone.
Option 2 - Trading back with Buffalo:
-swap R1 picks (we move back to 32)
-acquire R2 pick (we get an extra pick)
-swap R3 picks (we move back to 95)
*32: Jamie Newman, QB, Wake Forest
55: Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State
*64: Landon Dickerson, OC/OG, ‘Bama
*95: Chase Myers, OG/OC, Ohio State
R3 (comp): Michael Carter, RB, UNC
R4-R7: DT, CB, DT, CB
trade back for more picks, never seen it happen before even though it's talked about every year. Why not in 2021?
Any mention of minorities getting fair treatment, given the history, triggers him into angry rants about blacks.But, its pretty much on brand.
A lot of Steeler fans didnt want DeShawn Watson in the draft. There was a hypothetical thread on one board that if he dropped to the Steelers, should they pick him. I think a lot of the negativity had to do with opinions such as that...not the fact he put up around 1000 passing yards in the 2 championship games against Alabama.
Most Steelers fans didn't want Watson cause Ben still look decent then. Quit trying to play the race card that Steeler fans are racist!!!!!!!!!!Any mention of minorities getting fair treatment, given the history, triggers him into angry rants about blacks.
A lot of Steeler fans didnt want DeShawn Watson in the draft. There was a hypothetical thread on one board that if he dropped to the Steelers, should they pick him. I think a lot of the negativity had to do with opinions such as that...not the fact he put up around 1000 passing yards in the 2 championship games against Alabama.
Funny, I do recall saying Id take Lamar Jackson out of any qbs in his draft, and last year I wanted to take a gamble on jalen Hurts. Nice try though, painting those that don’t agree with you as racist in a passive aggressive way. Disagreeing with Rooney rule and affirmative action hardly a rant on blacks. Actually the opposite, I believe it’s detrimental to minorities. Who knows if Im right. I also believe transgenders should compete against the same sex as they were born, regardless of pronoun they wish to be called. Let me guess, now I'm a sexist in your self righteous opinion. Not that I give a shit what you think. I can see you live behind a facade.Any mention of minorities getting fair treatment, given the history, triggers him into angry rants about blacks.
A lot of Steeler fans didnt want DeShawn Watson in the draft. There was a hypothetical thread on one board that if he dropped to the Steelers, should they pick him. I think a lot of the negativity had to do with opinions such as that...not the fact he put up around 1000 passing yards in the 2 championship games against Alabama.
Nce Hijack of the point of the thread putting you're political views into it El Gonzo.Take that crap to the other forum on here!
The self proclaimed smartest guy on forum does what he wants.
I see it again and will call him out on it again. Mods should do something about it and don't belong on the main board.
Hawaiian is a crap disturber as well and made this political. Go back to the other board and start crap daily fighting with posters like you do! Keep the main board here about Steeler football!
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While the end of the 2020 NFL season is still several weeks away, the 2021 mock draft season is well underway. Several initial major media draftnik mock drafts are slowly trickling out and on Tuesday, Dane Brugler of The Athletic released another offering with this one encompassing the first two rounds. To cut right to the chase, Brugler has the Pittsburgh Steelers selecting Alabama quarterback Mac Jones in the first round at 24th overall and Washington cornerback Elijah Molden in the second round at 55th overall.
Below is what Brugler wrote about regarding the Steelers possibly selecting Jones in the first round:
https://steelersdepot.com/2021/01/br...ound-offering/
Why? He's probably the best QB prospect in the past ten years. He has it all, and proved it vs. good competition?
We pick 24th. The secret on Jones is out. New England might pick him 15th.
We could be looking at Kyle Trask or nothing in round one, or take a shot on Newman in round two. Both players play in the senior bowl. Whomever does well that week will improve their stock.
I was noticing that there are sixteen spots where a QB could possibly get drafted (before the Steelers draft at 24).
1. Jags
2. Jets (Darnold)
3. Dolphins (Tua)
4. Falcons (Ryan)
7. Lions (Stafford)
8. Panthers
9. Broncos
10. Cowboys (Prescott)
12. 49ers
14. Vikings
15. Taperiots
18. Dolphins... again
19. WFT
20. Bears
21. Colts
22. Jets... again
Of course, for five of those teams, drafting a QB means that a veteran would come available.
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Only speaking to the "future QB" part. IF...the draft goes the way I think it will(BIG IF), AND the Cowboys do draft a QB, I would not mind replacing Ben's immediate backup with Dak. IF it goes differently than I think(smaller if), AND Ben does retire, we would have to draft somebody, but I think the plan would still be for Rudolph to take over moving forward.
A QB room of Ben, Dak, Rudolph doesn't look bad at all to me.
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I’m unclear. In that scenario are you saying that Dak would be Ben’s backup? Dak is going to sign for $40M a year.
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Sorry once again. Only mean as the player. I do understand there are contracts involved. I'm just didn't require one for that post. No I would not offer a 40M contract for a backup for next season.
BUT....In the pre-having to make any decisions on QB phase...I would rather have Dak to backup Ben than the current situation with MR and Dobbs.
There’s no way that the Steelers could afford both Ben and Dak.
I’d be all for signing Dak. I really liked him coming out of college. Plus, he is a free agent; so, we wouldn’t even have to give up any draft picks for him.
GOING WITH RUDOLPH:
Playing devil’s advocate, and the Steelers simply go with Rudolph/they don’t add another QB, I could see the draft focusing on surrounding Rudolph with talent, as well as solidifying both lines... something like this:
R1: Alex Learherwood, OT, Alabama
R2: Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn St.
R3: Landon Dickerson, OC, Alabama
Comp: Michael Carter, RB, UNC
R4: Darius Stills, DT, WVU
R6: Dante Stills, DT WVU
R7: CB
R7: CB
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I’d rather have Ben backing up Dak.
I like the thought of drafting talent to support the QB position this year (Oline, TE, RB). I think there will be a deep run on QB in the first round before the Steelers pick at 24, which means other talent/positions goes down the board. Now, if there is a QB the Steelers absolutely love there at 24 then they might take him. I'm not sure they can afford to move up too much in the first round this year though and give up other draft capital.There’s no way that the Steelers could afford both Ben and Dak.
I’d be all for signing Dak. I really liked him coming out of college. Plus, he is a free agent; so, we wouldn’t even have to give up any draft picks for him.
GOING WITH RUDOLPH:
Playing devil’s advocate, and the Steelers simply go with Rudolph/they don’t add another QB, I could see the draft focusing on surrounding Rudolph with talent, as well as solidifying both lines... something like this:
R1: Alex Learherwood, OT, Alabama
R2: Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn St.
R3: Landon Dickerson, OC, Alabama
Comp: Michael Carter, RB, UNC
R4: Darius Stills, DT, WVU
R6: Dante Stills, DT WVU
R7: CB
R7: CB
Like you said, if there is a run on QBs then there should be some other guys available for the Steelers to bring in to compete with Rudolph (if Ben leaves). I still like the thought of giving Sam Darnold a chance with the Steelers if he becomes available.
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That would probably kill the locker room but I understand your point.
I honestly see a situation where the future is MR and Dobbs/rookie at backup. After Ben retires of course, whenever that happens.
I could also see the FO just letting contracts run out 'organically' and using this year's and next year's drafts to hopefully replenish. That has been the way.
Whether the OL is playing hurt, or just not being coached well, the point is they have been terrible. Getting guys to protect MR is the smart first move I believe will be the emphasis this draft.
Can we still just call them the Redskins? WFT is too close to WTF.
Indeed
I know that some say that Darnold “sees ghosts”, but Adam Gase was his coach; so, there were probably poltergeists walking around that facility.Joking aside, I think that in a new situation, Darnold will thrive (akin to when James Farrior spent his rookie contract withering away with that same team... and suddenly became a star after joining the Steelers).
Did I miss them raising the CAP $200 million more? To me, next year is a Mason Rudolph year unless they can somehow move up in the draft and get a guy like Mac Jones. As Teegre pointed out just draft to surround MR with better players on offense, fire Fichtner and bring a real OC in that can design a balanced offense, get a legit NFL RB, and resign guys on defense to keep them competitive. Our defense was #1 in the league before we lost 75% of our starting LBers down the stretch. Losing Dupree was the killer though. With his pressure gone it was easy for teams to run away from TJ and double team him.
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Already answered.
I know I was just busting on you. It's going to be a long offseason with us all locked in our houses!
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