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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Nothing to say, huh? Instead of a smart ass reply, why won't you answer him, Mr. smart guy. I'll ask the same question... why are people coming over the border not tested or proving they are vaccinated??? Well......................................???
    here’s the answer. you can’t make this shit up!
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...nding-to-stay/

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    lmfao, so inept! to think I saw a car with harris/biden sticker today. you’d think they’d be ashamed enough by now to take it off.

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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    here’s the answer. you can’t make this shit up!
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...nding-to-stay/

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    lmfao, so inept! to think I saw a car with harris/biden sticker today. you’d think they’d be ashamed enough by now to take it off.
    That's funny. I don't plan to stay at the grocery store either... or the restaurant, or the gas station, or the theater, or...............................

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy View Post
    Why, ding-a-ling, they're exercising their new found freedom of course.

    LOL.... got caught with a question you can't answer or defend...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Laughing at people getting intubated in the ICU ... Well, yeah, that's pretty much par for the course for a liberal.

    Funny thing though, really almost no one is dying and almost no one has ever been dying. All this weak ass disease has done is prove that there are a lot of people. And also that liberals don't understand multiplication and division well enough tp grasp the concept of a very tiny percentage of a very big number.
    Still so sadly delusional and lacking the impartiality to read anything that doesnt come from the right wing media.

    Covid-19 was the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA after Heart Disease and Cancer. Below is the link to the stats from the Journal of American Medical Association.

    March 31, 2021
    The Leading Causes of Death in the US for 2020

    Farida B. Ahmad, MPH1; Robert N. Anderson, PhD2
    Author Affiliations Article Information

    JAMA. 2021;325(18):1829-1830. doi:10.1001/jama.2021.5469



    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234

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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Still so sadly delusional and lacking the impartiality to read anything that doesnt come from the right wing media.

    Covid-19 was the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA after Heart Disease and Cancer. Below is the link to the stats from the Journal of American Medical Association.

    March 31, 2021
    The Leading Causes of Death in the US for 2020

    Farida B. Ahmad, MPH1; Robert N. Anderson, PhD2
    Author Affiliations Article Information

    JAMA. 2021;325(18):1829-1830. doi:10.1001/jama.2021.5469



    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234
    Interesting. Where were the panicked emergency measures over heart disease and cancer? Many people die from those, but we don't place restrictions on non-smokers until all the smokers quit, or close McDonald's to people of normal weight until all the obese people stop eating fast food. Why, we don't even suspend the licenses of sober drivers because there are drunk drivers on the road! But surely we would all be safer with all of those measures - after all, they are for your own good!

    Sadly, you still have no concept of scale, or of how to apply common sense. Consider that the great majority of people who died of COVID, 5 in 6 per the CDC, would likely be dead in the near future anyway, and your parroting of the narrative of fear that you read from the left-wing media doesn't make a lick of sense. But that is to be expected from an individual of relatively limited intellectual capacity.

    By the way, answer me this: is $20 a lot? Don't worry, you don't need any context, just yes or no.

    Because, you see, that is what the COVID cultists like yourself have been doing all along, and why you are the cause of this entire embarrassing debacle. Is $20 a lot compared to $50? Is $20 a lot compared to $100,000? Who cares! Just shoot from the hip and repeat whatever you were told by your cult, no need for context or reasoning. In fact, smugly try to shout down anyone who applies those.

    COVID is not a dangerous disease, and has never been a dangerous disease, except to very small and easily identifiable groups. Even then, it is not particularly dangerous, so much as it steals deaths from other causes. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself for being led around so easily. Even animals will eventually figure out to ignore warning signals when they are given repeatedly and the danger never materializes. Not you, though! You're the smart one, you show 'em!
    See you Space Cowboy ...

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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Interesting. Where were the panicked emergency measures over heart disease and cancer? Many people die from those, but we don't place restrictions on non-smokers until all the smokers quit, or close McDonald's to people of normal weight until all the obese people stop eating fast food. Why, we don't even suspend the licenses of sober drivers because there are drunk drivers on the road! But surely we would all be safer with all of those measures - after all, they are for your own good!
    Can you catch cancer or obesity from other people? I better stop hanging out with fat people

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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post

    LOL.... got caught with a question you can't answer or defend...lol.
    "LOL"...Not at all. The answer is all over the net, media, etc. ..."lol".

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Interesting. Where were the panicked emergency measures over heart disease and cancer?
    Everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Can you catch cancer or obesity from other people? I better stop hanging out with fat people
    Do vaccinated people die from this weak ass disease? Overwhelmingly not. So, it all comes down to personal choices, just like smoking or obesity.

    No restrictions of any kind. Prison for those who applied them.
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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Do vaccinated people die from this weak ass disease? Overwhelmingly not. So, it all comes down to personal choices, just like smoking or obesity.

    No restrictions of any kind. Prison for those who applied them.






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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    here’s the answer. you can’t make this shit up!
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...nding-to-stay/

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    lmfao, so inept! to think I saw a car with harris/biden sticker today. you’d think they’d be ashamed enough by now to take it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Interesting. Where were the panicked emergency measures over heart disease and cancer? !
    You should put down the crayons and stop eating glue, then come back to the board when you know the difference between a virus and a disease.

    The 3rd leading cause of death in the US is significant.

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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    You should put down the crayons and stop eating glue, then come back to the board when you know the difference between a virus and a disease.

    The 3rd leading cause of death in the US is significant.
    Well, they don't use any restrictions for the first or second, and if you had been paying attention to any of the information about actual causes of death, e.g., dying "of" COVID versus "with" COVID, then it would be unlikely even to crack the top 10.

    But sure, let's listen to more bad ideas from less intelligent people, that always works.
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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Well, they don't use any restrictions for the first or second, and if you had been paying attention to any of the information about actual causes of death, e.g., dying "of" COVID versus "with" COVID, then it would be unlikely even to crack the top 10.

    But sure, let's listen to more bad ideas from less intelligent people, that always works.
    ^^^ Post should be removed for BS, disinformation, propaganda, scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    You should put down the crayons and stop eating glue, then come back to the board when you know the difference between a virus and a disease.

    The 3rd leading cause of death in the US is significant.
    Really hoping heart disease doesn't mutate into another version as it percolates through the host population! Thoughts and prayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy View Post
    ^^^ Post should be removed for BS, disinformation, propaganda, scam.
    the irony of you speaking of something that should be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Really hoping heart disease doesn't mutate into another version as it percolates through the host population! Thoughts and prayers.
    Or maybe they will develop a treatment that cures heart disease and is available for free. Then the only people who could get heart disease would be the ones who voluntarily declined it. Then people would know it was time to shut the fuck up about heart disease and leave everyone else alone about it, right?

    Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Or maybe they will develop a treatment that cures heart disease and is available for free. Then the only people who could get heart disease would be the ones who voluntarily declined it. Then people would know it was time to shut the fuck up about heart disease and leave everyone else alone about it, right?

    Right?
    Consistently demonstrating that you have no idea of the difference between a disease and a virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Consistently demonstrating that you have no idea of the difference between a disease and a virus.
    An analogy refers to the use of one situation as an example to illustrate a point about a different, sometimes loosely related situation. It seems like the point of that analogy flew right past your little pretzel brain, so of course your response is to change the subject and niggle over irrelevant side points. Why, maybe there is a spelling mistake that you could point out also - wouldn't that make a compelling argument for your cause.

    So try this exercise: Consider how stupid someone would sound if he was ranting and carrying on about an easily preventable medical condition that does not affect himself or others unless they deliberately choose to place themselves in harm's way. Now try to picture how stupid you and your friends sound for carrying on about COVID.

    I mean, you have finally even got the part right about being unhappy with restrictions, despite not having any clue who to blame for them (grab a mirror). Really, how dense are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    the irony of you speaking of something that should be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Or maybe they will develop a treatment that cures heart disease and is available for free. Then the only people who could get heart disease would be the ones who voluntarily declined it. Then people would know it was time to shut the fuck up about heart disease and leave everyone else alone about it, right?

    Right?
    There is a treatment that requires no medication for that, eat a plant based diet. My cholesterol dropped by 62% in less than 2 months since I cut meat / dairy out of my diet. Most just aren't willing to make the change, but it's 100% preventable

    Cancer on the other hand, I'm not sure there's a way to totally beat that. Everyone has cancerous cells in their body, it's basically a ticking time bomb

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    Disease impacts individuals. Viruses impact populations. Treatment and response is totally different for either one.

    Not certain why this is an elusive concept. My freshman students grasp this on day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Disease impacts individuals. Viruses impact populations. Treatment and response is totally different for either one.

    Not certain why this is an elusive concept. My freshman students grasp this on day one.
    Totally irrelevant to the discussion. You are just arguing with yourself, tilting at windmills and thinking you're winning. Completely out to lunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    There is a treatment that requires no medication for that, eat a plant based diet. My cholesterol dropped by 62% in less than 2 months since I cut meat / dairy out of my diet. Most just aren't willing to make the change, but it's 100% preventable

    Cancer on the other hand, I'm not sure there's a way to totally beat that. Everyone has cancerous cells in their body, it's basically a ticking time bomb
    Well, you could quit smoking to lower your chances of dying from cancer, for instance.

    Lung cancer, heart disease, and COVID are similar in that there are simple ways to minimize your risk of health problems unless you are very unlucky. A similar approach is also appropriate: Make recommendations. That's it. If people don't follow them for whatever reason, that's their choice and it's not very important for anyone else. Certainly not important enough for compelled behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Well, you could quit smoking to lower your chances of dying from cancer, for instance.

    Lung cancer, heart disease, and COVID are similar in that there are simple ways to minimize your risk of health problems unless you are very unlucky. A similar approach is also appropriate: Make recommendations. That's it. If people don't follow them for whatever reason, that's their choice and it's not very important for anyone else. Certainly not important enough for compelled behavior.
    Except, of course, for the fact that you can spread Covid to others who are trying to avoid it, and you can cause serious respiratory problems in others through second-hand smoke (such as a 40 percent increase in children asthma attacks if a parent smokes in the house). Like it or not, you don't live on an island. When your actions or inactions begin to affect someone else in a series and dangerous way, it's no longer about your rights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    There is a treatment that requires no medication for that, eat a plant based diet. My cholesterol dropped by 62% in less than 2 months since I cut meat / dairy out of my diet. Most just aren't willing to make the change, but it's 100% preventable

    Cancer on the other hand, I'm not sure there's a way to totally beat that. Everyone has cancerous cells in their body, it's basically a ticking time bomb
    100% true. Studies have shown that approximately 80% of men in their 80's have prostate cancer, 90% of men in their 90's. Essentially, every man will have prostate cancer if he lives long enough.

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    Re: Covid-19 Vaccine warning - watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    There is a treatment that requires no medication for that, eat a plant based diet. My cholesterol dropped by 62% in less than 2 months since I cut meat / dairy out of my diet. Most just aren't willing to make the change, but it's 100% preventable

    Cancer on the other hand, I'm not sure there's a way to totally beat that. Everyone has cancerous cells in their body, it's basically a ticking time bomb

    One thing about studies, it's always a good idea to see who is paying for it. Doc Greger has spent his life on studies.


    https://nutritionfacts.org/2019/10/0...e-from-cancer/

    https://nutritionfacts.org/video/tre...ith-green-tea/


    More on prostate cancer.


    https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=Prostate+Cancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    Except, of course, for the fact that you can spread Covid to others who are trying to avoid it, and you can cause serious respiratory problems in others through second-hand smoke (such as a 40 percent increase in children asthma attacks if a parent smokes in the house). Like it or not, you don't live on an island. When your actions or inactions begin to affect someone else in a series and dangerous way, it's no longer about your rights.
    Get the vaccine, then my actions don't affect you. Sorry, but the civic responsibility to others argument left the building when the vaccine came out.

    Unless you are arguing that the vaccine is ineffective, in which case oh well, too bad, we can't hide in lockdown forever, so time to move on. It is not a very dangerous virus in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Get the vaccine, then my actions don't affect you. Sorry, but the civic responsibility to others argument left the building when the vaccine came out.

    Unless you are arguing that the vaccine is ineffective, in which case oh well, too bad, we can't hide in lockdown forever, so time to move on. It is not a very dangerous virus in the first place.
    Sorry, but no it didn't.

    This has only been explained to you about 5,000 times:


    A COVID Surge Is Overwhelming U.S. Hospitals, Raising Fears Of Rationed Care


    September 5, 20217:00 AM ET

    Many hospitals are "right on the edge"

    "We're in a very dangerous place, given the level of our surge," says Dr. Bruce Siegel, president of America's Essential Hospitals, a trade group that represents hundreds of public hospitals.

    "We are right on the edge of entering crisis standards of care. I hope we don't get to that point, but it could very easily happen," Siegel says. This is essentially a road map for how to divvy up medical care in a way that's equitable when resources are tight
    .
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-rationed-care

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