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  1. 08-31-2011 02:25 PM #1
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    ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/preview11/sto...l-starting-qbs

    5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
    Analysis: Roethlisberger barely made the top 10 in the new QBR ratings. He concedes statistics to Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan, but he has two Super Bowl rings and a 10-3 playoff record. In fourth quarters and late in games, he's dangerous.



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    5 Ben Roethlisberger


    93

    AGE: 29

    DOB: 3/2/82
    HT: 6-5
    WT: 241
    POS: QB

    Att 389
    Comp 240
    Yds 3,200
    TD 17
    Int 5
    QBR 59.8

    Player Analysis

    Roethlisberger is a big, strong-armed quarterback with above average athleticism. He has quick feet for his size and can slide and improvise to make effective throws downfield.

    Roethlisberger is the toughest quarterback in the league to get on the ground with great instincts to avoid pressure and natural body strength to break tackles. He has great vision and patience to find his second and third options but can be a bit of a gambler.

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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    yeah, sounds right.
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    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    I would agree completely with where he falls into this ranking and it would be hard to argue he is higher other than the argument of his 2 rings compared to the rest other than Marsha. His first ring he was horrible in the superbowl albeit he was amazing in the playoffs to get us there. I am glad we have him on the Steelers because I love his style of play and his toughness but if it wasn't for his ability to shed tacklers he would not have anywhere near the wins and stats that he does have now.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    I see they're using the stupid-ass ESPN quarterback rating instead of the real QB rating.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Michael Vick - elite?
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Michael Vick - elite?
    They list the top 13 as elite. Elite doesn't mean what it used to
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    Lol @ Rivers being statistically better...


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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Tim Tebow and Brett Favre!
    All Defense!
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    espn can take their shitty QBR and shove it where the sun don't shine
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vis View Post
    They list the top 13 as elite. Elite doesn't mean what it used to
    Neither does "top 5 QB," because there are at least 25 of those in the league now too.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Michael Vick - elite?
    Yes. He's an elite dog killer. WOOF!

    I put Ben at #3 in my rankings. Boo Boo Rivers doesn't make my Top 7 and WTF has Vick ever won except a poker game in the pokey?






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    Brees, Rodgers, Ben, Brady and Manning are Top-5. At this very minute I would say my Top 3 are Rodgers, Brees, Ben.


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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    He has six elite QB at the moment(Ben,Rivers,Peyton,Brees,Rodgers,Brady)

    Matt Ryan and Michael Vick are close.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    They should just rank him 31st to be honest

    more fuel to the fire
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Michael Vick - elite?
    IMO, they had to put him in there. i think we all know why.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    I think this is a fair assessment.
    "You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    so if he would of got that 3rd ring they would of ranked him 6th because he is a aging star that gets beaten up .
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by sactownsteeler View Post
    I would agree completely with where he falls into this ranking and it would be hard to argue he is higher other than the argument of his 2 rings compared to the rest other than Marsha. His first ring he was horrible in the superbowl albeit he was amazing in the playoffs to get us there. I am glad we have him on the Steelers because I love his style of play and his toughness but if it wasn't for his ability to shed tacklers he would not have anywhere near the wins and stats that he does have now.
    If Ben had a better OL, he wouldn't have to shed all of those tacklers and improvise so much. Put most of those guys behind the same OL as Ben and they wouldn't put up the same numbers either. You also have to remember that most of those other QBs play in a much more pass heavy offense, unlike Ben.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    What kills me about the way those talking heads say Vick is elite is he has one good season and, now he the cats meow. Please look at his completion percentage through is career like in the 56% or so that is not elite. As fas as cry me a Rivers goes call me when he wins a big game. I would still take Ben over any other qb in the league especially with the make shift oline we have had since 2006.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    If Ben had a better OL, he wouldn't have to shed all of those tacklers and improvise so much. Put most of those guys behind the same OL as Ben and they wouldn't put up the same numbers either. You also have to remember that most of those other QBs play in a much more pass heavy offense, unlike Ben.

    I agree and it's price we pay for having the def we do...... I wouldn't take any other QB for our team but I can't say he is better than the other 4 either.....
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Neither does "top 5 QB," because there are at least 25 of those in the league now too.
    Yes, I noticed that too.
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    Re: ESPN QB rankings. Here we go again.

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Brees, Rodgers, Ben, Brady and Manning are Top-5. At this very minute I would say my Top 3 are Rodgers, Brees, Ben.
    Just asking where would you put Brady.
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