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'Zackly. "You'd like." All well and good, but the rest of the voters don't share your enthusiasm.
/let's get back to reality
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
27 doesn't care for him, so apparently we aren't allowed to discuss him anymore.
Only frontrunners.
15 months before the election.
Interestingly, I'd like to point out that a month ago, Perry wasn't even showing, I mean NOTHING. Now he's leading the latest Gallup Poll. We're we allowed to talk about him when he was in 14th place out of 13 candidates?
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/g...212542697.html
Politics just makes people crazy...it's a funny thing.
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"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
Might I suggest that no one is picking Huntsman in polls because no one knows anything about him?
So, perhaps threads like this on this board and others might be educational for people (cough cough) who don't already know everything about the GOP field.
We have a long, long way to go. People are just now beginning to learn about Bachmann and Perry. I still hold out hope for the right that people can apply critical thinking and start to sort the wheat from the chaff. Because the GOP field right now is filled with a bunch of unelectable whackjobs.
(Edit: Adding this)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...03-503544.html
Jon Huntsman: Does a "center right" presidential candidate have a prayer?
Which raises the question: Does Huntsman really have a path to the nomination? His campaign has essentially ceded Iowa, where social conservatives dominate the GOP electorate, to Huntsman's rivals. Huntsman is pinning its hopes in large part on New Hampshire, where independent voters can vote in the GOP primary and where fiscal issues tend to trump social ones. If Huntsman can somehow shock Romney in New Hampshire (which is right next to Massachusetts, and where Romney has a summer home), he could displace his fellow Mormon as the candidate who can make the strongest electability argument to GOP primary voters whose primary focus is to unseat Mr. Obama.
But that's a big if. Huntsman predicted Sunday that he would do well in New Hampshire and South Carolina and then "bring it home in Florida." He also cast his low poll numbers as nothing to worry about, arguing that voters haven't yet tuned in.
"I like exactly where we are," he said. "Stay tuned."
Last edited by suitanim; 08-25-2011 at 11:12 AM.
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Actually, there *is* something I'd like to discuss: media bias in the primaries. Huntsman has been lavished with media coverage despite every bit of objective evidence that shows he's finished. At the same time, they've attempted to hide another candidate who's polling in the top tier, wins all the straw polls, has the only nationwide organization already in place, and the second-biggest war chest. How do they determine that the guy who nobody's voting for is "electable", but the guy who's doing well isn't?
Some jackass on CNN arrogantly proclaimed that it's their job to kick candidates out of the race. Not true. It's *OUR* job as voters to kick candidates out of the race. It's *their* job to report the news so we can make an informed decision. If they were doing their job with any kind of integrity and objectivity, we wouldn't be discussing Huntsman.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
Liberals worry so much about Republicans . Worry about that empty suit that lives in the White House that Jimmy Carter laughs at
I wasn't talking about you so relax . If you think I was , then the truth hurts
Ron Paul is a serious candidate...I don't follow the pop media, so I have no idea what kind of pub he's getting, but I've heard him mentioned quite frequently in the unbiased and more serious outlets I listen to and read.
Paul will have trouble if he gets the nod. He wrote (or had ghostwritten for him, 6 and 1/2 dozen) a series of racist articles in his newsletter between 89-96. He's also an anti-war utopian, and holds isolationism-as-foreign-policy close to his heart. He also is a conspiracy theorist, and has a lot of skeletons in his closet. I like what he brings to the table as an outsider pushing an alternative agenda, but not as a real contender for the Presidency. He, too, will not hold-up under the Democrat attack machine.
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Barry healed:
Gitmo
Afghanistan
Iraq
Yemen
Libya*
Gas prices
The economy
Unemployment
The housing market
Oh wait...he fucked ALL those things up even worse! Mah bad....
* Time will tell...leading form behind worked in spite of Hopey, not because of it. Libya is a mess and we may still have to boots on the ground. Read this: http://www.ohio.com/editorial/max-bo...ckage-1.231651
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Even if what you wrote here was true, none of it addresses my point.
http://www.journalism.org/numbers_re...oring_ron_paul
Compare that to the RCP average from all the polling.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-1452.html
The media is clearly allowing their biases to override their journalistic integrity by under-reporting candidates they don't like and over-reporting candidates they do like.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day
Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.
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Obama's biggest mistake was "taking ownership" of an economy that tanked before he got into power. NOT a smart tactical move... he can take credit for passing the "bail out" of the banks, car companies, etc... thus avoiding a potential depression as opposed to the current recession. But I honesty don't have any confidence that "any" of these politicians know what the h*ll their doing when it comes to the economy...
"With love, with patience, and with Faith
....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
Oh, a few of them do. Some of them have advanced degrees and have written books about the subject (which are only interesting to odd people like me). Their recommendation is that politicians keep their noses out of the economy because nobody (not even them) is capable of "managing" an economy without doing more harm than good.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
The man's got a point.
For those who will be participating in the Republican primaries: how do you know that your favorite candidate will actually do anything different? How do you differentiate between empty campaign promises and serious resolve to do change course? 'Cuz if the Republican candidate ends up doing all the same crap Obama's doing, the only difference will be who takes the blame. In that situation, I'd rather have Obama in the WH.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
Obama made a bunch of mistakes. First, he blamed (and continues to blame) every BAD thing on Bush. He campaigned on the promise to fix everything, and he's only exacerbated all the problems. Note that: He has NOT fixed things, he has made them worse. His apologists (see: above apology) still want to play all the blame at Bush's feet. The main problem with this is that Obama has actually taken a lot of Bush's policies and doubled down on them, which makes the resulting "worseness" 100% his. Then he does things like lie about job numbers. Since 2009, we have LOST 4.5 million jobs, and unemployment has gone UP and is still around 9.1-9.2%. But Obama flat-out lies and claims that he added 2 million jobs. 800,000 of those were temporary census jobs from the summer of 2010!
His spendulous bill was a disaster. It cost $250,000 per job, and many of those were simply patronage payments to his union cronies (Teachers union at the top of that list). His tax cut (you know, the retarded one where people get an extra $7 every two weeks) is ongoing and does nothing but drain the coffers. His 24% one-time increase in discretionary spending is the largest in US history. How does one blame THAT on Bush?
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I never blame anything on conspiracy that can fairly be attributed to incompetence And while your observation is fair, it also underscores the fundamental problem: We shouldn't be left with the choice of the media either ignoring or attacking candidates they don't like, just as they shouldn't be either promoting or suppressing stories about candidates they *do* like. Their job is to report, not influence.
And *my* point is that if the media was actually reporting the news instead of picking favorites, none of us would be harboring any false illusions about Huntsman's chances this cycle.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland