Former Bengals running back shot to death by police

[Godfather]

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/7/11...hot-and-killed

This is sad. (It would be funny if he lived but this sucks.)

[Devilsdancefloor]

wow

[venom]

Should have listened and not attacked the cop ( s )

[stillers4me]

Should have listened and not attacked the cop ( s )

It still seems like excessive use of force. They do have other means of subduing people with putting a bullet in them.

[smokin3000gt]

Isn't that why cops have tasers/billy clubs/'pepper' spray/respond in numbers/have backup for non lethal situations? A bag being swung around (which can happen accidentally in any kind of tussle) is hardly a shoot to kill situation. Tragic loss of life for such a petty situation.

[SteelerSal]

Isn't that why cops have tasers/billy clubs/'pepper' spray/respond in numbers/have backup for non lethal situations? A bag being swung around (which can happen accidentally in any kind of tussle) is hardly a shoot to kill situation. Tragic loss of life for such a petty situation.

This...sad situation.

[venom]

Im surprised I havent heard anyone say why couldnt the cop shoot him in the arm or leg

[HometownGal]

Isn't that why cops have tasers/billy clubs/'pepper' spray/respond in numbers/have backup for non lethal situations? A bag being swung around (which can happen accidentally in any kind of tussle) is hardly a shoot to kill situation. Tragic loss of life for such a petty situation.

I agree 100%. I hope his family goes after those cops.

[venom]

Its a shame he died , but what a great place we live in . Disobey a lawful order from a police officer , sue them when they do something to you - even in death .

[stillers4me]

Really sad case, but like every other case, day one in the news, there's always more to the story. But you gotta love Bengals humor......

Damn, gunned down by the police? Well, at least he went out like a Bengal.
:ninja:
Too soon?

What other Bengal has been gunned down ? If he had been beating his wife while driving under the influence with Odell Thurman while hitting a parked car and failed to pay his child support then yes he went out like a Bengal...

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?showtopic=60381

They said it first.

[steeldawg]

Im sorry but if you attack a cop by bashing him over the head and you get shot its your own damn fault!

[Nadroj 20]

It still seems like excessive use of force. They do have other means of subduing people with putting a bullet in them.

Exactly. Shooting a person, in most situations, should be a last resort type of thing.

[The Patriot]

Wow, a cop got hit with bag of groceries?! Sounds like a clean kill to me!

I understand police officers have to defend themselves, but if you can't deal with a struggling unarmed suspect without pulling out your gun and shooting him, don't f**king become a cop.

[ALLD]

The former RB was up to no good, however he did not deserve to be shot. See what happens when you do the wrong thing.

[smokin3000gt]

Im sorry but if you attack a cop by bashing him over the head and you get shot its your own damn fault!

I think there is probably more to the story then what the officer who is on the hook for killing an unarmed man over a beer can is going to confess.

[steelerdude15]

Excessive use of force, that's all I have to say.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Wow, a cop got hit with bag of groceries?! Sounds like a clean kill to me!

I understand police officers have to defend themselves, but if you can't deal with a struggling unarmed suspect without pulling out your gun and shooting him, don't f**king become a cop.

yeah for real. I'm thinking the cops pulled the race card on the guy (if he isnt white)

[smokin3000gt]

yeah for real. I'm thinking the cops pulled the race card on the guy (if he isnt white)

I think it was the scared to do his job card more then race.

[86WARD]

RIP

[BigNastyDefense]

An officer's training is that if you have to shoot, you shoot to kill.

If the guy knocks the cop loopy, then the guy has access to the officer's firearm.

Was it excessive force? Probably. But the guy who was shot isn't in the right either. You NEVER EVER assault a police officer. He put himself in that position. I really don't feel that bad for him or his family. The lesson in this is to obey an officer when he gives you an order.

[The Patriot]

You NEVER EVER assault a police officer. He put himself in that position.

If he punched the cop then that'd be clearly assault, but a cop getting hit by a bag of groceries by a guy carrying a bag of groceries sounds a lot more like resisting arrest than assault.

I really don't feel that bad for him or his family. The lesson in this is to obey an officer when he gives you an order.

Really?! A kid sees his dad get shot to death by police, and a guy loses his life because he felt he was being wrongly detained?

[smokin3000gt]

An officer's training is that if you have to shoot, you shoot to kill.

If the guy knocks the cop loopy, then the guy has access to the officer's firearm.

Was it excessive force? Probably. But the guy who was shot isn't in the right either. You NEVER EVER assault a police officer. He put himself in that position. I really don't feel that bad for him or his family. The lesson in this is to obey an officer when he gives you an order.

Nope.. he's DEAD. I guess that'll teach him, huh?

[steelpride12]

Hitting a police officer in the head with ANYTHING is assault plain and simple. A police officer has a tedious and very demanding job not to mention on your toes 24/7. When he was hit from behind the only option is to turn and defend yourself with a gun.

Smart move by the officer and glad to know they were not injured.

[Godfather]

Shoulda tazed him, bro.

[steelpride12]

In that situation, no. Defend yourself with any means necessary. These men are trained for any situation.

[Nadroj 20]

Taking a life shouldn't be an option unless it is the absolute LAST option. He had many other options like taking him down or tazing him or even beat him senseless, but to kill someone isn't right.


I'm one of those who believe killing is never right. Justice can be accomplished other ways.


Plus the biggest thing is he was unarmed! Its not like getting hit damaged the officer too much because he was still able to turn pull his gun and put a bullet into the guy. So he could have easily taken the drunk guy down using techiques taught when becoming a police officer.

[SteelCityMan786]

Officers forget their taser or clubs or other non lethal weapons?

[steeldawg]

Why do people keep saying bag of groceries, like he hit him with a bag of lettuce or something? It was 2 full beer cans in a bag being swung very hard by a big dude. If you dont think he could killed that cop by hitting him the head a couple of times with that, then you are lying to yourself. Here is a good way not to get shot by police, dont attack them.

[CantStop85]

In that situation, no. Defend yourself with any means necessary. These men are trained for any situation.

Really? Defend yourself with any means necessary against a bag of beer cans? Christ, the guy was 56-years-old, how dangerous could he have been with a bag of groceries against MULTIPLE police officers?

It doesn't sound like Turner was being a model citizen, but from the information given (which, if anything, would be skewed in the cop's favor), there was no reason to take the man's life.

This sort of lackadaisical use of lethal force is not only unjustified, it sets a terrible precedent for abuse. You ever wonder why minorities and younger people are paranoid of cops? This is exactly why.

[steelpride12]

Really? Defend yourself with any means necessary against a bag of beer cans? Christ, the guy was 56-years-old, how dangerous could he have been with a bag of groceries against MULTIPLE police officers?

It doesn't sound like Turner was being a model citizen, but from the information given (which, if anything, would be skewed in the cop's favor), there was no reason to take the man's life.

This sort of lackadaisical use of lethal force is not only unjustified, it sets a terrible precedent for abuse. You ever wonder why minorities and younger people are paranoid of cops? This is exactly why.

How do you know the 56 year old man didn't have a gun in his pocket? The officer sure as hell didn't know and can't risk something like that I don't care how old you are. There was no intention of shooting to kill the man he took a few shots out of self defense because he was struck.

He had it coming to them, you don't hit a police officer or threaten them in anyway, this wanted trouble and he got it sad to say.