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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by 7SteelGal43 View Post
    this is news to me
    ... and to an embarrassing number of US citizens.

    From Article VI of our Constitution:
    ...

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the
    several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of
    the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or
    Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be
    required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United
    States.
    And the First Amendment:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
    prohibiting the free exercise thereof
    ; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
    of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
    the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Although, to your point, at the very end it does say "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." I'm sure that's all the proof anyone needs that we are indeed a Christian nation.
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    Wrong answer... We are the United States. We are never wrong. [insert sarcasm here]
    Why are you here? In the U.S. that is. You seldom, if ever, have anything nice to say about it.

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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWarDen86 View Post
    Why are you here? In the U.S. that is. You seldom, if ever, have anything nice to say about it.
    And you do have good things to say about it? I hear nothing but complaints from you about our president, our border policies, our economics, our tax structure, our everything.

    In fact, you only seem to have good things to say about major U.S. corporations (which are really transnationals) and our armed forces, the bulk of whom are to be found outside of our borders. I'd recommend that you relocate yourself outside of our borders, to a country populated by our troops and dominated by multinational corporations, like, say... Iraq.
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    And you do have good things to say about it? I hear nothing but complaints from you about our president, our border policies, our economics, our tax structure, our everything.

    In fact, you only seem to have good things to say about major U.S. corporations (which are really transnationals) and our armed forces, the bulk of whom are to be found outside of our borders. I'd recommend that you relocate yourself outside of our borders, to a country populated by our troops and dominated by multinational corporations, like, say... Iraq.
    Current President. Remember that.

    I love this country. I don't love the way it's being run. But I don't share all of your negative thoughts on every aspect.

    When did I say anything about corporations? And even if I did, who fucking cares?

    OUR armed forces are doing their job. It's ALWAYS been that way. I can't believe I need to explain that to you.

    As I said before, when the day comes I'll be putting YOUR ass on the boat, plane, train, or mule the hell out of here. Not the other way around.

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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWarDen86 View Post
    Current President. Remember that.

    I love this country. I don't love the way it's being run. But I don't share all of your negative thoughts on every aspect.

    When did I say anything about corporations? And even if I did, who fucking cares?

    OUR armed forces are doing their job. It's ALWAYS been that way. I can't believe I need to explain that to you.

    As I said before, when the day comes I'll be putting YOUR ass on the boat, plane, train, or mule the hell out of here. Not the other way around.
    I have not the least doubt that it will be you putting me on some boat out of the country, or putting me up against a wall, and not the other way around. Take note that I will go down on record as never being willing to do that to anyone, leastwise someone teenage loser in a chatroom whom I've never met, who has nothing better to do than follow me from thread to thread.

    I do think that your statement speaks VOLUMES about the right wing's priorities and commitments. I thank you for your honesty, if nothing else.
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    Although, to your point, at the very end it does say "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." I'm sure that's all the proof anyone needs that we are indeed a Christian nation.

    Yep. And sure 'nuff, in all the writings of Ben Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Quincy Adams, Charles Carroll, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, John Jay........that's the only mention you'll hear of "the Lord" or anything remotely close to the God of the Bible.

    " Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." Charles Carroll (signer of the Declaration of Independence)
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    Although, to your point, at the very end it does say "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." I'm sure that's all the proof anyone needs that we are indeed a Christian nation.
    "Separation of Church and state" doesn't mandate the eradication of religion from the gubmint and public. It means that the state can't impose a particular religion on the citizens.

    Of course they honored the Lord in their assembly, their words and records. They were Godly men. They still open sessions of congress with prayer today.

    The core of the culture were the folks that settled at Plymouth and Jamestown. They came here to escape religious persecution and to establish a life of free worship. They were Christians who dedicated the new land to the glory of Christ. Is that to say we are a "Christian nation" today? That's arguable, but the early settlers and founders would have certainly hoped that we would be.

    We are a nation born out of religious tolerance. But our tolerance has now deevolved from religious freedom to the tyranny of the "politically correct" where everything is tolerated except those that won't.

    We are at the latter stages of the Tytler cycle where we have passed...

    * From bondage to spiritual faith;
    * From spiritual faith to great courage;
    * From courage to liberty;
    * From liberty to abundance;
    * From abundance to complacency;
    * From complacency to apathy;
    * From apathy to dependence;
    * From dependence back into bondage.

    November 2010 will determine whether we acquiesce into bondage, or experience something of a resurgence of liberty. Except for illegals, of course.
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    November 2010 will determine whether we acquiesce into bondage, or experience something of a resurgence of liberty. Except for illegals, of course.
    Oh, really? Is that when the Republican Party will lead us back out of bondage? Free at last! Free at last!
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by 7SteelGal43 View Post

    Yep. And sure 'nuff, in all the writings of Ben Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Quincy Adams, Charles Carroll, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, John Jay........that's the only mention you'll hear of "the Lord" or anything remotely close to the God of the Bible.
    They can mention it all they want. Thankfully for all of us, none of it matters... except the Constitution, that is. For the record, the vast majority of the Framers were Deists, and not what would be considered "good Christians" in today's fundamentalist United States. These men were creatures of the Enlightenment, much to your chagrin.
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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    I have not the least doubt that it will be you putting me on some boat out of the country, or putting me up against a wall, and not the other way around. Take note that I will go down on record as never being willing to do that to anyone, leastwise someone teenage loser in a chatroom whom I've never met, who has nothing better to do than follow me from thread to thread.

    I do think that your statement speaks VOLUMES about the right wing's priorities and commitments. I thank you for your honesty, if nothing else.
    Teenager? I wish..., and you're welcome.

    BTW - I wouldn't go around calling folks losers if I were you. Just the whole "people in glass houses thing" really.

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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    Oh, really? Is that when the Republican Party will lead us back out of bondage? Free at last! Free at last!
    You could be in Mexico in less than 24 hours you know; all set to start a new and better life for yourself if you so desired. I see no reason for you to suffer another day here in this hell.


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    Re: Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Except for illegals, of course.
    Yes, they'll be promised and most likely given a lot more than they've ever earned from those in charge - should they stay in charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
    Oh, really? Is that when the Republican Party will lead us back out of bondage? Free at last! Free at last!
    NO, that's when AMERICANS, you know those legally here in the country registered to vote, some also known as VOTERS, will fix the damage that was done this past November.


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