Any Pro Wrestling Fans Out There?

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Cena with the Fingerpoke of Doom!

So the WWE has gone so far overboard it's a bit ridiculous.

Cena counted out Wade Barrett and is fired
Wade Barrett had his rematch last night and Cena interferred
The Miz cashes in (finally) on his money in the bank, and beats Randy Orton

I'm calling it now. Cena will be back in within a month because he'll continue to interfere with Nexxus./

And if The Miz lasts as champion longer than the next ppv, then I want my own title shot!

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And TNA continues to unimpress me with their scripts!

[BuddhaBus]

And TNA continues to unimpress me with their scripts!

Hogan and Bischoff need to go... NOW! Oh, and Vince Russo sucks ass too!

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Hogan and Bischoff need to go... NOW! Oh, and Vince Russo sucks ass too!

I honestly believe that you and I could write better scripts then what they are trying to sell right now. I don't mind the 3 stooges being involved in the behind the scenes operations but they need to stay behind the curtain and allow the young talent to run the mic.

Flair needs to stop wrestling...NOW!

[tube517]

I watched the Matt Morgan/Flair match the other week and that was just painful to watch. Flair mailed it in in the 90's but he just looked awful. I mean I wasn't expecting much but it was very sad. Just get out of the ring and do the manager thing.

I honestly believe that you and I could write better scripts then what they are trying to sell right now. I don't mind the 3 stooges being involved in the behind the scenes operations but they need to stay behind the curtain and allow the young talent to run the mic.

Flair needs to stop wrestling...NOW!

[tube517]

Agreed. I've been watching here and there and those 2 clowns need to go.

Hogan and Bischoff need to go... NOW! Oh, and Vince Russo sucks ass too!

[The WH]

the miz as champ is awesome

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the miz as champ is awesome

Please explain how the miz as champ is awesome. Because I don't see it.

[The WH]

the wwe hasn´t had a champ that the crowd could get behind hating so much since HHH.

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the wwe hasn´t had a champ that the crowd could get behind hating so much since HHH.

I see where you're coming from but at least make him a bigger more hatable wrestler. I think the mizz is just annoying!

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Here's my problem with WWE:

1) The Jon Cena fired thing is over played
2) Mizz as champion is weak
3) Nexxus is out of control and needs to be revamped, they very well could be the next DX
4) There is no dominate Tag Team
5) The talent level has definitely gone down hill since HHH, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, and Stone Cold left the business.

My problem with TNA:

1) The constant interruptions of Fortune and Immortal in the matches makes it boring
2) Matt Morgan should be dominating and at least playing a bigger role
3) They've got some great talent but it's not being used properly
4) Beer Money could be the next version of the Anderson brothers back in the day of 4-Horsemen
5) JJ as a MMA fighter is a joke and needs to end, abruptly
6) Hogan, Bischoff, and Flair need to stay backstage
7) Somoan Joe as an independent is too over the top, he needs to find that 'friend'

[The WH]

Here's my problem with WWE:

1) The Jon Cena fired thing is over played
2) Mizz as champion is weak
3) Nexxus is out of control and needs to be revamped, they very well could be the next DX
4) There is no dominate Tag Team
5) The talent level has definitely gone down hill since HHH, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, and Stone Cold left the business.

My problem with TNA:

1) The constant interruptions of Fortune and Immortal in the matches makes it boring
2) Matt Morgan should be dominating and at least playing a bigger role
3) They've got some great talent but it's not being used properly
4) Beer Money could be the next version of the Anderson brothers back in the day of 4-Horsemen
5) JJ as a MMA fighter is a joke and needs to end, abruptly
6) Hogan, Bischoff, and Flair need to stay backstage
7) Somoan Joe as an independent is too over the top, he needs to find that 'friend'

WWE #5. They have in ring talent superior to the days of Rock, Stone Cold, etc.. Except they all, combined, have less charisma than the Rocks eyebrow. Daniel Bryan, Jack Swagger, Kaval, that little Hart Dynasty Kid with the stupid haircut, John Morrison, the list goes on considerably. None of them have the mic skills to be at the top. Sure they can put on a brilliant 30 minute match, but if you can´t connect with fans through promos, you won't be able to draw a dime, except for Internet bumbs like us.

What the WWE needs, desperately, is managers. Not like Vicki Guerrero bullshit. I mean managers like Jimmy Hart, the Graduate, Bobby Heenan...etc. Mouthpieces for these brilliant in ring technicians that cant cut a good promo to save their lives.

I don't get the tag team thing.
It's a paradox really....
In the MNW days, Bischoff was the guy that HATED tag team wrestling. Vince, loved it. Now it´s reversed, Vince doesn´t give a shit and TNA is churning out Tag Teams like Honda churns out Civics.

When the Hart Dynasty got those belts I really thought it was a rebirth to the Tag Team Division. then they defended it against the Uso´s and then.....nothing. Now the Uso's (who are great wrestlers) are jobbing out to Santino and Kozlov.

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WWE #5. They have in ring talent superior to the days of Rock, Stone Cold, etc.. Except they all, combined, have less charisma than the Rocks eyebrow. Daniel Bryan, Jack Swagger, Kaval, that little Hart Dynasty Kid with the stupid haircut, John Morrison, the list goes on considerably. None of them have the mic skills to be at the top. Sure they can put on a brilliant 30 minute match, but if you can´t connect with fans through promos, you won't be able to draw a dime, except for Internet bumbs like us.

What the WWE needs, desperately, is managers. Not like Vicki Guerrero bullshit. I mean managers like Jimmy Hart, the Graduate, Bobby Heenan...etc. Mouthpieces for these brilliant in ring technicians that cant cut a good promo to save their lives.

I don't get the tag team thing.
It's a paradox really....
In the MNW days, Bischoff was the guy that HATED tag team wrestling. Vince, loved it. Now it´s reversed, Vince doesn´t give a shit and TNA is churning out Tag Teams like Honda churns out Civics.

When the Hart Dynasty got those belts I really thought it was a rebirth to the Tag Team Division. then they defended it against the Uso´s and then.....nothing. Now the Uso's (who are great wrestlers) are jobbing out to Santino and Kozlov.

I guess the old school mic reps forgot to pass down the skillsets for rocking the mic and connecting with the fans.

I, too, thought that the WWE was going to rebirth the talented tag teams with the Harts and the Uso's. But alas nothing but broken dreams.

Either way, both business units are failing the fans, at least teh bums like us who remember the good ole days.

[The WH]

Either way, both business units are failing the fans, at least teh bums like us who remember the good ole days.

Amen.

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So finally the script writers with the WWE have figured it out. They've got Cena and Wade Barrett getting heated and they've got the other members of Nexxus turning their back on him. If they play this right, they can have him exiled and the remaining members becoming the next generation of DX. I believe that David Otunga has the presence to take them to the next level and the 3 remaining members could very easily have WWE fans saying, "DX Who?"

I'm still not sold on The Miz being WWE Champion. He's just not that great and he's always a little biatch. At least when HHH had the title as heal, he'd do some manly stuff that made you think at least he's not a complete cheat. Almost everything Miz has done has been behind the back and using his little valet Riley. I wonder what type of pictures The Miz must have to have had his bump to the top?

[The WH]

Im telling you. its allll heat. If you listed the head heel heat gettings it's Miz, Michael Cole, Vicki Guerrero, and Nexus members. In that order. All the other heels get weak heat. Even heels they really work on (edge, Orton) get cheered.

Sheamus isn't over at all. He´s another ''meh'' heel.

They need to get rid of the red head in Nexus and just have the Nexus be Otunga (who I think is lame, but thats besides the point), McGillicutty, Harris, and the 450 splash guy.

That brings me to something else......

I hate that wresters are just using their real names now a days. Makes it harder to remember for us old folk that grew up with the Big Boss Man, Repo Man, Road Dogg, The Mountie...etc..

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I hate that wresters are just using their real names now a days. Makes it harder to remember for us old folk that grew up with the Big Boss Man, Repo Man, Road Dogg, The Mountie...etc..

You have to remember that back in the day, with the exception of a few like Hogan and Flair, their character names were owned by the wrestling company. That's why Kevin Nash can't be Diesel anymore, WWE owns the rights.

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There is no budding superstar in either promotion that has real mainstream appeal like Hogan had in the 80's and Austin/Rock had in the late 90's. Plus both rehash the same storylines and don't have any imagination.

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There is no budding superstar in either promotion that has real mainstream appeal like Hogan had in the 80's and Austin/Rock had in the late 90's. Plus both rehash the same storylines and don't have any imagination.

I would say TNA has Matt Morgan, but his mic skills aren't that great. There's Anderson but his wrestling isn't as promotional as Austin/Rock. I guess the real problem is that the companies can't compete with each other. I mean WWE had Hogan (for the longest time) and WCW had Flair. Once that ended, it seemed to have gone south.

Even back then, the undercard wrestlers still had better talent and could sell the show. Now it's like they can't even muster a good PPV.

[The WH]

You have to remember that back in the day, with the exception of a few like Hogan and Flair, their character names were owned by the wrestling company. That's why Kevin Nash can't be Diesel anymore, WWE owns the rights.

I know. I know. I still dont like it though.

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I know. I know. I still dont like it though.

I don't either!

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Morgan doesn't seem to have a gimmick or catch phrase. Anderson is good on the mic and has potential, but I don't know if he has the mainstream appeal.

I would say TNA has Matt Morgan, but his mic skills aren't that great. There's Anderson but his wrestling isn't as promotional as Austin/Rock. I guess the real problem is that the companies can't compete with each other. I mean WWE had Hogan (for the longest time) and WCW had Flair. Once that ended, it seemed to have gone south.

Even back then, the undercard wrestlers still had better talent and could sell the show. Now it's like they can't even muster a good PPV.

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Morgan doesn't seem to have a gimmick or catch phrase. Anderson is good on the mic and has potential, but I don't know if he has the mainstream appeal.

Anderson started having the mainstream appeal just before he left WWE. I don't think it's waivered much, but since he was absent for so long, he needs to get it back out there.

[BuddhaBus]

Anderson started having the mainstream appeal just before he left WWE. I don't think it's waivered much, but since he was absent for so long, he needs to get it back out there.

He easily has the best mic skills of any current wrestler I can think of. He's an OK wrestler, but I'd like to see him concentrate on improving that aspect of his game.

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He easily has the best mic skills of any current wrestler I can think of. He's an OK wrestler, but I'd like to see him concentrate on improving that aspect of his game.

They aren't using him appropriately in TNA for him to improve his wrestling skills. It'll be interesting to see what can be done with the roster they have on TNA.

[BuddhaBus]

It'll be interesting to see what can be done with the roster they have on TNA.

As long as Hogan and Bischoff are in charge... not much.

[The WH]

CM Punk is the best in the business on the mic.

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CM Punk is the best in the business on the mic.

And that isn't saying much.

[The WH]

And that isn't saying much.

I would put him up against the best mic men in wrestling. I just wish that he were around when Stone Cold was around. That story line writes itself.

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The old schoolers would kill CM Punk on a mic challenge.