Steelers dead last in pass attempts.

[zulater]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...S&d-447263-n=1

Discuss.

[steeldevil]

We wont be in 32nd by the end of the year... but I dont really care, especially if we are in dead first in wins.

[smokin3000gt]

All of our offensive stats have been drug down by the first 4 games of the season. Our defensive stats are more telling of us this year.

[steelpride12]

Ya and still 6 and 2 I don't care.

[stillers4me]

4 games without your starting quarterback could do that.

[Psycho Ward 86]

that's cool with me. Just move the ball, doesn't matter how we do it. I think i speak for 99% of the people on the board when i say this: I don't buy into this "offensive identity" crap.

[fansince'76]

Ben sucks. Trade him.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

4 games without your starting quarterback could do that.

Yeah, its just like the stat that Ben has been sacked less this year than last year after 8 games. Oh wait, he sat out 4 games. Stats are only tools.

[oneforthetoe]

Brett Favre

[stillers4me]

Brett Favre

and Tim Tebow, too.

[zulater]

In games that Ben has played the Steelers are 28th in pass attemps per game by average.

I suppose this wouldn't bother me if we were at least in the top ten in rushing. We're not though, seems as if we're not doing anything particuarly good on offense at the moment. The offensive line up until this recent spate of injuries was supposedly improved. Not showing much on the field though.

Also you'd think with the amount of times we've run the ball we'd be eating up clock. Wrong, we're 16th in the league for TOP.

You want to know the difference between this year and last year? Well actually there might not be one, we were 6-2 at the midpoint last year. But honestly I do think we're improved, but only because of turnover differential and special teams. Special teams should stay a plus, turnover differential? You just never know, it'
s not something i want to be dependent on. Bottom line is if this team truly has Super Bowl asperations the offense needs to start carrying a bigger share of the load. The best way to bring that about in my opinion is to unleash your best player( Ben). And while you're at it you might try to figure out a way to get your receiver with the best set of hands into a few pass patterns ( Heath) instead of using him as a 3rd tackle on nearly every passing play.

[tube517]

Fine Harrison.

and Tim Tebow, too.

[HometownGal]

Damn that Arians. He doesn't call enough running plays and now he isn't calling enough passing plays.

As long as they win, I don't give a rat's ass how they do it. Stats schmats.

[cold-hard-steel]

You can come up with all the stats you wish. Maybe more if you dig deeper.At the end of the game what does it matter? The scoreboard will tell the tale. Time of possession and the score board will tell the tale. You could look at the injuries involved if you wanted to. Penalties and turnovers is the mirror of where we are going. Mistake free ball can win the game. Screw the stats.

[tube517]

You can come up with all the stats you wish. Maybe more if you dig deeper.At the end of the game what does it matter? The scoreboard will tell the tale. Time of possession and the score board will tell the tale. You could look at the injuries involved if you wanted to. Penalties and turnovers is the mirror of where we are going. Mistake free ball can win the game. Screw the stats.

[zulater]

Damn that Arians. He doesn't call enough running plays and now he isn't calling enough passing plays.

As long as they win, I don't give a rat's ass how they do it. Stats schmats.

Yeah, how'd that 6-2 start end up last year again? And even if they win 10-11 games it wont get them squat in the playoffs if their offense isn't playing at a higher level by then.

[zulater]

Look it's not my desire to rile up the ADL ( Arians defense league), I just want the damn offense to start to pull their end of the load. We all knew the defense would have to step up the first four games, and to their credit they sure as hell did. But the offense has to do more than assume passenger status if they're to end up where we all want them to.

[HometownGal]

Yeah, how'd that 6-2 start end up last year again? And even if they win 10-11 games it wont get them squat in the playoffs if their offense isn't playing at a higher level by then.

I don't look back on what happened last season or any other season. I focus on the present. The Steelers are 6-2 and atop the AFCN as of this very moment. With a win tonight, they can go up a game on the Rats. Those are the only stats I care about.

The Steelers put 27 points on the board last week against the Bungles. Whether the O gets into the EZ, Skippy puts 3's on the board, we get a KO or a PR for a TD or the D takes one to the house - as long as we keep putting points up on that board and the final score results in a Steelers W, as I said - it doesn't matter one iota how they got those points or where they rank in the stat category. Stats do not win football games.

[HometownGal]

Look it's not my desire to rile up the ADL ( Arians defense league), I just want the damn offense to start to pull their end of the load. We all knew the defense would have to step up the first four games, and to their credit they sure as hell did. But the offense has to do more than assume passenger status if they're to end up where we all want them to.

Was that really necessary Zu? You could have made your point without taking a shot for Christ's sake.

[zulater]

Was that really necessary Zu? You could have made your point without taking a shot for Christ's sake.

What shot?

I never once mentioned the man's name prior to you bringing it up. I just want our offense to start performing at a higher level. I think it's essential that they do if we're to have continued success through the second half of the season.

[Count Steeler]

Who cares where we are in the league? We are in a league of our own. We want to run and stuff. We are not an air team. Rooney was clear with his mandate this year:
1. Run the ball
2. Develop the young ones into full time players.

Pass attempts be damned. 6-2 with what we have gone through is fine with me. 12-4 would be playoff bound. Also fine with me.

[HometownGal]

What shot?

I never once mentioned the man's name prior to you bringing it up. I just want our offense to start performing at a higher level. I think it's essential that they do if we're to have continued success through the second half of the season.

My head really doesn't screw on and off crooked. I made the comment about BA in sarcasm. I notice that your opening post requests us to "discuss" but yet you didn't offer any insight into your own topic until others, including me, responded.

Also - cold-hard-steel had the exact same opinion as I do and posted right after I did but yet you choose my post to browbeat.

I'd much prefer it if our D started playing at a higher level and hold onto the leads our O, who God forbid doesn't lead the league in stats, puts on that scoreboard. I think I speak for a lot of Steelers fans who aren't giving Lebeau and our D a free pass any longer. I'm tired of games going down to the final minute because our D turns to jelly in the 4Q. Again I maintain that stats don't mean jack shit - the score on the scoreboard at the end of the 4Q and a Steelers W is all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

[Texasteel]

What shot?

I never once mentioned the man's name prior to you bringing it up. I just want our offense to start performing at a higher level. I think it's essential that they do if we're to have continued success through the second half of the season.

You were complaining about running to much just like last years complaints were about throwing to much. Since you have already stated that BA make the calls who where you supposable talking about if not BA. Last year was last year, this is a new season, don't expect me to get all upset because we are 6 and 2, (just like last year.

I just hope that the defense can hold the lead tonight when it's given to them.

Not everyone has to agree with you.

[cold-hard-steel]

Sorry all,i,m just not a big stat guy thats all. According to stats you can have the worse offensive line in football,and still go on to, and win a Superbowl.If there is any stats what-so-ever i agree with it is the scoreboard. You can rush the ball 20 times,and have +5 yards.If you have the lead on the score board,and you win 20-19,thats the stat that matters.

[Texasteel]

Sorry all,i,m just not a big stat guy thats all. According to stats you can have the worse offensive line in football,and still go on to, and win a Superbowl.If there is any stats what-so-ever i agree with it is the scoreboard. You can rush the ball 20 times,and have +5 yards.If you have the lead on the score board,and you win 20-19,thats the stat that matters.

What you just said is completely supported by the year we beat the Seahawks in the SB.

[zulater]

My head really doesn't screw on and off crooked. I made the comment about BA in sarcasm. I notice that your opening post requests us to "discuss" but yet you didn't offer any insight into your own topic until others, including me, responded.

Also - cold-hard-steel had the exact same opinion as I do and posted right after I did but yet you choose my post to browbeat.

I'd much prefer it if our D started playing at a higher level and hold onto the leads our O, who God forbid doesn't lead the league in stats, puts on that scoreboard. I think I speak for a lot of Steelers fans who aren't giving Lebeau and our D a free pass any longer. I'm tired of games going down to the final minute because our D turns to jelly in the 4Q. Again I maintain that stats don't mean jack shit - the score on the scoreboard at the end of the 4Q and a Steelers W is all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

LeBeau gets a free pass on this board? lol, tell me another. Look, I wish the defense would play a full four quarters as well. I understand where it can be confusing how the defense can play tremendous for a full 3 quarters and then craps it pants in the fourth quarter. I've got some theories as to why, but I wont get into them here.

But what I will say is that if the offense could display a similiar brilliance for 3 quarters in a game, any 3 quarters, then I doubt the defense would have much to worry about in regards to giving up a late lead.

[zulater]

You were complaining about running to much just like last years complaints were about throwing to much. Since you have already stated that BA make the calls who where you supposable talking about if not BA. Last year was last year, this is a new season, don't expect me to get all upset because we are 6 and 2, (just like last year.

I just hope that the defense can hold the lead tonight when it's given to them.

Not everyone has to agree with you.

Au contraire Tex. I don't want everyone to agree with me, the board is dull as dirt when we all sing the same tune.

And if the offense could play the first 3 quarters up to the standards the defense always does, do you really think we'd have anything to worry about late in games?

[cold-hard-steel]

LeBeau gets a free pass on this board? lol, tell me another. Look, I wish the defense would play a full four quarters as well. I understand where it can be confusing how the defense can play tremendous for a full 3 quarters and then craps it pants in the fourth quarter. I've got some theories as to why, but I wont get into them here.

But what I will say is that if the offense could display a similiar brilliance for 3 quarters in a game, any 3 quarters, then I doubt the defense would have much to worry about in regards to giving up a late lead.

I think the execution of the plays called is more to blame than the play called itself. It would be beautiful if our defense could spend 3/4 of the game on the sideline. For that to happen it has to come down to the offense executing the plays that are being sent in. We are not in the cruise mode yet,and we as a team have a lot to get together at this juncture of the season.Being 6-2 though,i have very little to complain about. I want to see how we stand up to the challenge before us tonight before i get too intricate in my discretions. I think our coaches and players know we are by no means a finished product,and for that i am gratefull. That means we still have room to grow,and i like that.

[Texasteel]

LeBeau gets a free pass on this board? lol, tell me another. Look, I wish the defense would play a full four quarters as well. I understand where it can be confusing how the defense can play tremendous for a full 3 quarters and then craps it pants in the fourth quarter. I've got some theories as to why, but I wont get into them here.

But what I will say is that if the offense could display a similiar brilliance for 3 quarters in a game, any 3 quarters, then I doubt the defense would have much to worry about in regards to giving up a late lead.

You and I have had this conversation before. No one is saying that the offense can't and shouldn't play better, but few people question Le Beau's play calling or coaching, I seems to me that when ever the defense does have a problem the answer is. " The offense should keep them off the Field." Is the offense playing to conservative in the last qu.? Maybe, but most teams will try to pull the plug and eat up time. This is still a team sport. The offense needs to score and the defense needs to stop the score.

Remember Zu this team has gone though a lot so far this year, and I can understand it appearing to be unsettled at times. I think both the offense and the defense will play better. I think that IF we can get the O-line settled we will see a better running game, and Ben look more like Ben. I also believe that if we can get the defensive back field to cover the field for 4 qu. we will be tough to score on. Lets hope it starts tonight.

We are all steeler fans here.

[Texasteel]

Au contraire Tex. I don't want everyone to agree with me, the board is dull as dirt when we all sing the same tune.

And if the offense could play the first 3 quarters up to the standards the defense always does, do you really think we'd have anything to worry about late in games?

Well this board will never be boring then bud, I can't think of too many times you and I have agree. Heres to a few more lively conversations.