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    The Immaculate Misconception

    The refs blew the call, but ESPN reported that two of them live in Pittsburgh. The Fins still had a chance to win and we spotted them six points, but we got an early Christmas gift.
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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Disney Channel II - 'nuff said. They're always on point with the innuendos and implications of fixed games.

    ESPN viewership = one of the primary reasons that so many sports fans in this country have become blubbering pussies who can never accept losses and always claim the fix is in when they don't get their way. The other primary reason being the nauseating "everyone is a winner and everyone gets a trophy for participating" mindset that has become so pervasive.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Phins got a gift too. Two fumbles in the opening two minutes. Let's call it even :P

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    We can't say what would have happened if the Dolphins had gotten the ball at the 20. All we can say for sure is that we stole one ... moving on ...

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Disney Channel II - 'nuff said. They're always on point with the innuendos and implications of fixed games.

    ESPN viewership = one of the primary reasons that so many sports fans in this country have become blubbering pussies who can never accept losses and always claim the fix is in when they don't get their way. The other primary reason being the nauseating "everyone is a winner and everyone gets a trophy for participating" mindset that has become so pervasive.
    This

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post

    ESPN viewership = one of the primary reasons that so many sports fans in this country have become blubbering pussies who can never accept losses and always claim the fix is in when they don't get their way. The other primary reason being the nauseating "everyone is a winner and everyone gets a trophy for participating" mindset that has become so pervasive.
    This so much!

    Accept the loss as a man (or a woman..) and move on. It's not that hard
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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    What are we the only ones who get the benefit of calls??? Look we got Lucky today and I got no problem with it. That call could have just as easily gone against us and we will never know how that woulda turned out, big freakin' deal.

    Tomorrow when anyone asks me about it I'm gonna say I would rather be Lucky than Good, because if you're Lucky you don't have to be good, but if you're good you still have to be Lucky.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace108 View Post
    We can't say what would have happened if the Dolphins had gotten the ball at the 20. All we can say for sure is that we stole one ... moving on ...
    We didn't steal one. We may have gotten a lucky break, but we also gave them two lucky breaks early in the game. If there hadn't been a TD called on the play, the person coming out of the pile with the ball might have been completely different.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    I'm still pissed about the call at the end of the Chargers game in 2008 where Polamalu ran back an INT for a touchdown to end the game, but for some reason, they didn't count the points and no explanation for it after the game either. If you had Pittsburgh -4 in that game, you got royally hosed. I'll take this as a make-up for that one.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    If it is any consolation, in the post-game interviews the Dolphin players are taking it well. Most of them are saying they should have stopped us at the 50-yard line before we got down into the red zone. Plus the fact they were kicking FGs instead of scoring TDs.
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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    I'm still pissed about the call at the end of the Chargers game in 2008 where Polamalu ran back an INT for a touchdown to end the game, but for some reason, they didn't count the points and no explanation for it after the game either. If you had Pittsburgh -4 in that game, you got royally hosed. I'll take this as a make-up for that one.
    Oh, yeah - the game where we also got tagged with 13 penalties to the Chargers' 2? But the NFL "wants us to win to make more money."

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    We didn't steal one. We may have gotten a lucky break, but we also gave them two lucky breaks early in the game. If there hadn't been a TD called on the play, the person coming out of the pile with the ball might have been completely different.
    There's a difference between our defense giving them "lucky breaks" and the refs giving us a "lucky break." Like I said ... we won. Moving on.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    We didn't steal one. We may have gotten a lucky break, but we also gave them two lucky breaks early in the game. If there hadn't been a TD called on the play, the person coming out of the pile with the ball might have been completely different.
    Roethlisberger post-game: "I hate to win that way..."
    Tomlin post-game: "Make it quick, because we have the buses warmed up."

    Even they realize that we did, in fact, steal one.








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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201010...ines#tab:watch

    About the 2.35 mark, how can anyone say for sure Legurskey didn't recover the fumble only to lose possession in the scrum afterwards?
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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Shit happens or maybe that's what $75,000 will buy you.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Of course only the Steelers pay the refs off, always the Steelers who get the breaks, haha childish. I do remember the evident illegal contact on Ward in which he was not able to get the TD, and the countless holding calls never called against Harrison, Or maybe even the hold on Troy on the Bess touchdown, I don't wanna hear whining.
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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Roethlisberger post-game: "I hate to win that way..."
    Tomlin post-game: "Make it quick, because we have the buses warmed up."

    Even they realize that we did, in fact, steal one.
    No, they just don't like having any kind of controversy. The fact is that we have no way to possibly know who would have come up with that fumble if it hadn't been called a TD.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    No, they just don't like having any kind of controversy. The fact is that we have no way to possibly know who would have come up with that fumble if it hadn't been called a TD.
    If it had been called a TD, it doesn't matter who came up with the ball. But since it was ruled a fumble, either we recover it in the endzone (touchdown) or the Dolphins recover it (touch back). There's not a lot of gray area here.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace108 View Post
    If it had been called a TD, it doesn't matter who came up with the ball. But since it was ruled a fumble, either we recover it in the endzone (touchdown) or the Dolphins recover it (touch back). There's not a lot of gray area here.
    But it wasn't ruled a fumble on the field. It was ruled a TD. Once the ref says TD, things on the field change. There's no longer any reason to hang on to or go after the football.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    But it wasn't ruled a fumble on the field. It was ruled a TD. Once the ref says TD, things on the field change. There's no longer any reason to hang on to or go after the football.
    Upon review, they determined it was a fumble. But they said they couldn't determine who recovered the ball, even though a Dolphins player clearly came out of the pile with the ball.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace108 View Post
    Upon review, they determined it was a fumble. But they said they couldn't determine who recovered the ball, even though a Dolphins player clearly came out of the pile with the ball.
    You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. They couldn't determine who recovered the ball because once they said that it was a TD, the play is over. They would've had to have indisputable evidence of who had control of the football AT THE EXACT TIME AS WHEN THEY SAID TD. They were unable to do that.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace108 View Post
    Upon review, they determined it was a fumble. But they said they couldn't determine who recovered the ball, even though a Dolphins player clearly came out of the pile with the ball.
    Yeah but he didn't have clear cut possession until about 30 seconds after the play was dead. Fact is Legurskey came as close as anyone to establishing possession before the whistle blew. And if at any point Legurskey establsihes possession it should have been a touchdown Steelers. It's football not wrestling, grabbing a dead ball from under the pile isn't a fumble recovery.
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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Game over.

    Scoreboard.

    Standings say 5-1. Dolphins to their credit aren't crying about it and they played pretty well. They get credit for a well played football game. They don't get the W. Period.

    Next.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Game over.

    Scoreboard.

    Standings say 5-1. Dolphins to their credit aren't crying about it and they played pretty well. They get credit for a well played football game. They don't get the W. Period.

    Next.
    What he said.



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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    I think..................doesnt matter, we won




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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    I forget where I heard it, but I heard a claim that Ben said he had come up with it anyway. Upon some replays I did notice his hand get in there along with others, but I couldn't tell anything. But that considered, I hear that we would not have been able to advance the fumble anyway, so it would not have been ruled a TD. Therefore, we would have went for the FG anyway and the end results seems to me to be identical. This is all hearsay from what I've been hearing from analysts though, so I'm really just throwing it in as food for thought. Not really to state any case one way or another.

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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    Well, I don't intend to argue this ad infinitum. I'll take the W for sure, but I still think we got away with one.

    Moving on...








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    Re: The Immaculate Misconception

    How about the fact that there were two illegal contact penalties that weren't called?

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