Aaron Rodgers to sign with the Steelers

[Mojouw]

Those are some salty ass tears.

You have literally asked (at least twice in this thread) how those of us that are not very optimistic about 2025 are getting to that point.

Then, you get all snippy when someone answers. Like if you don't like the answers, don't ask the question.

In the interest of having a discussion and not personalizing this in any way shape or form -- what of the things that I have posted or others that are negative on Rodgers and the Steelers run counter to facts? What is the basis for a highly optimistic outcome other than hope and the belief that the Steelers are somehow unique and not subject to reality?

Take it another direction. Ask yourself what your expectations and predictions were for Trubisky and Pickett. Compare those to what happened.

[Mojouw]

Russell Wilson was 6-6 as a Steelers' starter and got worse as the season wore on. Wilson had a better surrounding cast than Kenny Pickett did. Pickett was 15-10 without the experience and starting in his fifth game as a rookie.

Justin Fields was 4-2, and they didn't prioritize his signing unless he signed for a very low number.

I think it was evident to the team that Wilson wasn't going to lead them anywhere.

I hate the signing of Aaron Rodgers but will root for him like crazy to succeed like I always do with whoever the Steelers' quarterback is.

There is a chance that Rodgers plays well. He knows how to run an offense, go through progressions, and find favorable matchups. He was coming off of a major injury, and he played better as the season went on as he adapted to his limitations and his physical condition slightly improved. With his injury being that much further behind him this season, there is a chance that he will have better movement skills, and his arm and footwork will be more in sync this season....even at his age. He still has his elite skills at the line of scrimmage pre-snap. If he is given the power to take total control of the offense to get them into good plays and manipulate the defense with his snap counts, he can still have a big effect on the game just from a mental standpoint. He has a chance to be pretty good if the young OL comes together, the new RB is the real deal, and Turner is the answer at WR2 or they sign that player, and Washington becomes a real pro and raises his level of play so they can use multiple TE sets regularly as well. That's a lot to hope for, but stranger things have happened.

There is also the chance that he gets injured, or his athletic ability falls off a cliff and he becomes a liability.

He may also be a slightly more diminished player than he was last season and not be good at all.

Most scenarios are him not being what they hoped he would be, but I will hope for the best option. I'm not expecting the best-case scenario. It will likely be something else IMO.

Sir, I think you may be lost. This is a Steelers message board. There is no room for reasoned and grounded projections.

The 2025 team is either winning the SB or not winning a game. Save that middle path nonsense for the Buddhists.

In all seriousness, I do think that Rodgers main strength (his pre-snap recognition) gets blunted by the state of the Steelers WR corps. I hate to say it...but Keenan Allen makes some sense at this point. Get one guy on the field in obvious passing situations that will slowly lumber to where Rodgers expects him to be.

[Born2Steel]

You have literally asked (at least twice in this thread) how those of us that are not very optimistic about 2025 are getting to that point.

Then, you get all snippy when someone answers. Like if you don't like the answers, don't ask the question.

In the interest of having a discussion and not personalizing this in any way shape or form -- what of the things that I have posted or others that are negative on Rodgers and the Steelers run counter to facts? What is the basis for a highly optimistic outcome other than hope and the belief that the Steelers are somehow unique and not subject to reality?

Take it another direction. Ask yourself what your expectations and predictions were for Trubisky and Pickett. Compare those to what happened.

I thought that was humorous. Wasn't trying to be snippy.

[Born2Steel]

You have literally asked (at least twice in this thread) how those of us that are not very optimistic about 2025 are getting to that point.

Then, you get all snippy when someone answers. Like if you don't like the answers, don't ask the question.

In the interest of having a discussion and not personalizing this in any way shape or form -- what of the things that I have posted or others that are negative on Rodgers and the Steelers run counter to facts? What is the basis for a highly optimistic outcome other than hope and the belief that the Steelers are somehow unique and not subject to reality?

Take it another direction. Ask yourself what your expectations and predictions were for Trubisky and Pickett. Compare those to what happened.

At this point of the season/preseason, everything is based on hope.

I turn to Steelers facts like this...
Mike Tomlin will get 10 wins. He got Rudy and Duck into the playoffs. I have confidence in that.

Rodgers didn't play in 2023. 2024 improved as the season went on. Not sure that equals he just can't do it anymore, but maybe it does.

The past is the past. Trubisky is no longer here.

When the Steelers drafted Harmon, Ryan Clark started screaming about going into the season with Mason Rudolph. Turns out he didn't know what he was talking about. There was a plan in place the whole time. There is a plan every season. I don't know it, you don't know it, Ryan Clark don't know it. But there is a plan. A plan means hope.

[hawaiiansteeler]

You have literally asked (at least twice in this thread) how those of us that are not very optimistic about 2025 are getting to that point.

Then, you get all snippy when someone answers. Like if you don't like the answers, don't ask the question.

So fragile.

[Mojouw]

At this point of the season/preseason, everything is based on hope.

I turn to Steelers facts like this...
Mike Tomlin will get 10 wins. He got Rudy and Duck into the playoffs. I have confidence in that.

Rodgers didn't play in 2023. 2024 improved as the season went on. Not sure that equals he just can't do it anymore, but maybe it does.

The past is the past. Trubisky is no longer here.

When the Steelers drafted Harmon, Ryan Clark started screaming about going into the season with Mason Rudolph. Turns out he didn't know what he was talking about. There was a plan in place the whole time. There is a plan every season. I don't know it, you don't know it, Ryan Clark don't know it. But there is a plan. A plan means hope.

Ok. I can see that. I don’t listen/see Ryan Clark and 90% of the rest of the tv NFL yellers so I’ve got no idea what that was about.

I’ve never doubted there was a plan.

I’ve never doubted that Aaron Rodgers was the best starting QB option available to the 2025 Pittsburgh Steelers.

I just think those options were poop lite, poop dark, poop regular, and poop dry. No matter which one you pick; it’s still a glass of poop.

I’m trying to find a football reason besides “Tomlin is a wizard” that stacks wins for this team. It gets hard pretty quickly looking at their schedule.

[Mojouw]

So fragile.

What do you think is gonna happen here? Like what’s your plan?

Hoping I’m gonna whine like a child and threaten to quit the board if people don’t like me?

Oh wait….that’s your move. Crap! Now I need another idea.

Back to gunpowder and cocaine!!! Hell yeah!!!

I’ve got a new mumu I’ve been wanting to break in.

[hawaiiansteeler]

What do you think is gonna happen here? Like what’s your plan?

Hoping I’m gonna whine like a child and threaten to quit the board if people don’t like me?

Oh wait….that’s your move. Crap! Now I need another idea.

Back to gunpowder and cocaine!!! Hell yeah!!!

I’ve got a new mumu I’ve been wanting to break in.

I'm not taking this seriously at all, so I have no idea why you are.

[El Kabong]

He got Rudy and Duck into the playoffs.

He got Rudy and Duck to 8-8. They missed the playoffs.

[Born2Steel]

He got Rudy and Duck to 8-8. They missed the playoffs.

Did they? I thought we made the playoffs that year. Oh well, point remains valid.

[pczach]

Sir, I think you may be lost. This is a Steelers message board. There is no room for reasoned and grounded projections.

The 2025 team is either winning the SB or not winning a game. Save that middle path nonsense for the Buddhists.

In all seriousness, I do think that Rodgers main strength (his pre-snap recognition) gets blunted by the state of the Steelers WR corps. I hate to say it...but Keenan Allen makes some sense at this point. Get one guy on the field in obvious passing situations that will slowly lumber to where Rodgers expects him to be.

Just trying to call it as I see it. Pretending there is no potential downside to the Rodgers move is just putting blinders on IMO.

It is certainly going to be interesting. Arthur Smith's offense will finally have a player they can open up his entire playbook with. If Rodgers can stay healthy and the OL does come together, we will likely see some aspects of the offense that have been missing to this point.

The last several drafts have been strong. There are some really good players that are likely to take a major step in their development, while some talented rookies will get a chance to show what they are capable of. I am always excited to see that growth and development and try to figure out the ceiling of these young players. I love seeing young players improve and take major steps forward. It gives a glimpse of what can be when they fully invest in a talented quarterback that can get in the system, master it, and then thrive for 12-15 years to give them a shot at being great over an extended period of time.

It's what everyone wants, but can they pull it off in the very near future? We know it is difficult to find the next great quarterback, which is why we want them to go all in on finding that guy right now and stop with the 40-year-old band aids.

[Mojouw]

Just trying to call it as I see it. Pretending there is no potential downside to the Rodgers move is just putting blinders on IMO.

It is certainly going to be interesting. Arthur Smith's offense will finally have a player they can open up his entire playbook with. If Rodgers can stay healthy and the OL does come together, we will likely see some aspects of the offense that have been missing to this point.

The last several drafts have been strong. There are some really good players that are likely to take a major step in their development, while some talented rookies will get a chance to show what they are capable of. I am always excited to see that growth and development and try to figure out the ceiling of these young players. I love seeing young players improve and take major steps forward. It gives a glimpse of what can be when they fully invest in a talented quarterback that can get in the system, master it, and then thrive for 12-15 years to give them a shot at being great over an extended period of time.

It's what everyone wants, but can they pull it off in the very near future? We know it is difficult to find the next great quarterback, which is why we want them to go all in on finding that guy right now and stop with the 40-year-old band aids.

Yeah. There’s a narrow as heck path littered with ifs that could see something come together on offense. But I’ve got a hard time seeing it. My guy tells me it’ll look like the last Ben year.

But there’s more than enough to keep me watching every minute.

[ALLD]

If the Steelers win 10 games this season that means the rest of the teams are really bad or the refs work the outcome. Tomlin could help by getting the team ready with a fast offense beginning Week1 Q1.

[El Kabong]

Yeah. There’s a narrow as heck path littered with ifs that could see something come together on offense. But I’ve got a hard time seeing it. My guy tells me it’ll look like the last Ben year.

But there’s more than enough to keep me watching every minute.

Last year Rodgers had 28TD, 11 Int, 63% completion for a QB rating of 90.5. Is there a reason to think he can't do that again this year, and is that not good enough to win some games with?

[Born2Steel]

Last year Rodgers had 28TD, 11 Int, 63% completion for a QB rating of 90.5. Is there a reason to think he can't do that again this year, and is that not good enough to win some games with?

I saw a meme today that sums up my thinking fairly well. It read, ' you can say you don't like Aaron Rodgers, but you can't say he's not better than Mason Rudolph'. I mean, that's pretty accurate.

[Mojouw]

Last year Rodgers had 28TD, 11 Int, 63% completion for a QB rating of 90.5. Is there a reason to think he can't do that again this year, and is that not good enough to win some games with?

That’s basically Wilson’s stat line of they played the same number of games.

That’s somewhere between 7-10 wins.

I suspect Rodgers won’t play a full season. I also suspect the Steelers offense will struggle to sustain drives and score points.

Just like the past however many years.

Go watch Rodgers Jets games and the last season he played in Green Bay. He gets rid of the ball in 2 seconds or less because he doesn’t want to get hit anymore. He doesn’t stay with the play long enough to consistently make plays. And his ability to create under pressure has evaporated in his 40’s.

And being better than Mason Rudolph isn’t a claim to anything.

[Crow-Magnon]

Time will tell.

Rodgers has a football mind. That’s a truth. Whether his aging body can handle it is a story remaining to be told. I’d love to know the untold Justin Fields story. I think he would have done well, but never got a true opportunity. Supposedly the Steelers made him an offer but he decided to go to the Jets. Which tells me bad blood existing there from last season. It will be interesting to see how Rodgers performs this season.

[Hawkman]

Time will tell.

Rodgers has a football mind. That’s a truth. Whether his aging body can handle it is a story remaining to be told. I’d love to know the untold Justin Fields story. I think he would have done well, but never got a true opportunity. Supposedly the Steelers made him an offer but he decided to go to the Jets. Which tells me bad blood existing there from last season. It will be interesting to see how Rodgers performs this season.

Everyone here knows that Rogers isn’t the answer to that position, stopgap. But…he has a solid center, two (hopefully) tackles that can play, and two really good interior linemen. If he doesn’t get hurt…..(and that’s a big “if”) we will find out a lot about our O. Also, can’t wait to see how hungry the D is.

[Voice of Reason]

I'm not taking this seriously at all, so I have no idea why you are.

He really IS fragile.

[pczach]

On first observation, I can see that Rodgers is clearly moving better than we last saw him. Watching him move at camp running play action bootlegs, you can clearly see him moving much more smoothly and quickly.

We obviously have much more to see, but it is a very good sign that he is moving better. It will help him throw the ball better as his body feels more like its normal self to him. His legs and his body are more likely to be in sync and will help him with his off-platform throws.

This is a good start to see him moving much better.

[Born2Steel]

Time will tell.

Rodgers has a football mind. That’s a truth. Whether his aging body can handle it is a story remaining to be told. I’d love to know the untold Justin Fields story. I think he would have done well, but never got a true opportunity. Supposedly the Steelers made him an offer but he decided to go to the Jets. Which tells me bad blood existing there from last season. It will be interesting to see how Rodgers performs this season.

Bad blood/$10M more in guaranteed money. It's one of those things.

[ALLD]

Aaron Wilson Pickett would be the ultimate QB or maybe R&B performer?