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    Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Well worth a shot with a 6th round pick. Absolutely nothing to lose. You take a shot without much risk of drama.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    He has a good enough arm to make all the throws, both college teams he was on were better with him and he won a national championship.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    He has a good enough arm to make all the throws, both college teams he was on were better with him and he won a national championship.

    And his father's name isn't Deion (well it could be I didn't research that).

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    See what he can do. Low risk pick

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    he has some tools and at that pick point that is all you can ask for , now lets get to developing him ...
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    I think Howard stinks. Part of trend of guys staying in college for a long time and finally looking good their final season as they’re just more experienced than many of their opponents.

    BUT….it is the sixth round. The only requirement here is that a prospect be alive, out of jail, and relatively sober.

    Even if he just holds a clip oars for two years, he’s well worth a 6th.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think Howard stinks. Part of trend of guys staying in college for a long time and finally looking good their final season as they’re just more experienced than many of their opponents.

    BUT….it is the sixth round. The only requirement here is that a prospect be alive, out of jail, and relatively sober.

    Even if he just holds a clip oars for two years, he’s well worth a 6th.
    While I agree he will likely be a career backup, as you said, he is only a 6th rounder. I will point out thought that, unlike the Steelers last QB drafted, Howard's stats were pretty good his last two years at KCU. Plus, he led KCU to big wins.

    39 TDs to 12 int - 60+% completion rate - and over 4000 yards. Not bad stats in just
    18 games (6 games in 2022).

    Finally, I would also factor into the equation that he moved up in competition his final year.

    Still probably a career backup but I don't think he exactly fits the one-year wonder story. Time will tell.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    If our hopes for him are tempered then he’s a perfect pick at the 6 th round. Why? Because we need a QB in camp and he’s cheap and he’s got some possible upside (SF and NE cashed in their lotto tickets with Purdy and Brady)

    But I am not counting on him to be a long term starter

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    If our hopes for him are tempered then he’s a perfect pick at the 6 th round. Why? Because we need a QB in camp and he’s cheap and he’s got some possible upside (SF and NE cashed in their lotto tickets with Purdy and Brady)

    But I am not counting on him to be a long term starter
    He may be the new long term Mason backup type.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Whatever level Howard ascends to in his career, he is an immediate upgrade to the Steelers QB room. He has a better chance at being the best in the room than the worst in the room, IMO. As has been brought up, he is a 6th round selection so the odds that he will become a franchise player are slim. BUT he still upgrades the room. BPA at a position of need at that pick, IMO.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think Howard stinks. Part of trend of guys staying in college for a long time and finally looking good their final season as they’re just more experienced than many of their opponents.

    BUT….it is the sixth round. The only requirement here is that a prospect be alive, out of jail, and relatively sober.

    Even if he just holds a clip oars for two years, he’s well worth a 6th.
    Until Howard see's some action and proves that he "stinks" I'll be rooting hard for him and the team. As they say.. Stranger things have happened.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    He may be the new long term Mason backup type.

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    I think that is realistic. Howard has big frame, but not a real strong arm for the short and intermediate throws. Not a great athlete and while he has good touch on deep passes I see those balls hanging a bit in the air, which is fine in college, but NFL Safety's will find those.

    Steve Smith and Brian Baldinger were on NFL Network and Smith said something to the effect of Howard having an opportunity to show what he has and develop for the Steelers. He mentioned the QB room has Rudolph and Thompson, saying "we know who Mason Rudolph is and the Steelers are bringing him back again...whats that saying? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?"

    Howard is a big QB with average arm and lots of big game experience. Might really just be a guy that ends up being a #2 QB, but good value to take a shot in the 6th round.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think Howard stinks. Part of trend of guys staying in college for a long time and finally looking good their final season as they’re just more experienced than many of their opponents.

    BUT….it is the sixth round. The only requirement here is that a prospect be alive, out of jail, and relatively sober.

    Even if he just holds a clip oars for two years, he’s well worth a 6th.
    He led KState to a Big 12 Championship? Then transferred and won the National Championship. Also has KStates TD record . . . Not sure what you are trying to say here.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    I think Howard's experience helps him a lot , he continually stepped up when needing to and seems to learn from his mistakes , he has enough mobility to keep teams honest and his arm isnt nearly as bad as some make it sound ...I think we need to give him a shot and see if development can continue ... not saying don't eye your opportunities in 2026 but don't cast off a kid that has some skills to work with either
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    He led KState to a Big 12 Championship? Then transferred and won the National Championship. Also has KStates TD record . . . Not sure what you are trying to say here.
    Chris Winke and Johnny Manziel won Heisman Trophy.

    Sometimes records and awards in college dont equate to the skillset or traits that are needed to be a successful NFL QB. Will Howard throwing a 15 yard out to the field side of the formation might be the weakest arm of the 3 QB's on the current roster.

    Watch his tape on short to intermediate throws. He doesnt "spin it" like strong arm guys do.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    He led KState to a Big 12 Championship? Then transferred and won the National Championship. Also has KStates TD record . . . Not sure what you are trying to say here.
    If he was a true starter in the NFL prospect, he would’ve come out before his 6th or 6th college season.

    Remember, Mason Rudolph and Landry Jones had a long list of NCAA accolades and accomplishments.

    He’s a marginal prospect for the NFL.

    And drafting him in the 6th round is totally fine. I’m just ecstatic that they didn’t do it in the first or the third!

    Seems they’ve learned their lesson.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Chris Winke and Johnny Manziel won Heisman Trophy.

    Sometimes records and awards in college dont equate to the skillset or traits that are needed to be a successful NFL QB. Will Howard throwing a 15 yard out to the field side of the formation might be the weakest arm of the 3 QB's on the current roster.

    Watch his tape on short to intermediate throws. He doesnt "spin it" like strong arm guys do.

    Well, Mason's problem has never been his arm. Some might even say it is an above average arm if we are comparing. Not sure about Skyler's arm. Your opinions are usually pretty sound, and I have read that Howard's arm might be his downfall as starter. So, you are likely correct. Time will tell if a 6th round shot pays off. I saw somewhere else that he throws a bit of a moon ball. If so, we should have kept Wilson, he could have taught him to perfect moon ball technique.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Looking up Tom Brady’s scouting report - he was to be a future backup. No speed, not the strongest arm, limited to the pocket.

    Rodger’s report - above average arm strength, gets flustered …


    there is something about playing QB successfully that can’t be measured. It is what Brady, Rodger’s and Brees had between their ears. Their ability to see the field and coverage and read it quickly and find the right guy to pass it to. I have no idea if Howard has this but no one knows until they get tested.

    Also - one thing in common is that guys like Brady, Rodgers, Maholmes and Brees …. all of them sat for a bit and did not start right away. Jordan Love and Jalen Hurts did this too. I think there is much value in this

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    Looking up Tom Brady’s scouting report - he was to be a future backup. No speed, not the strongest arm, limited to the pocket.

    Rodger’s report - above average arm strength, gets flustered …


    there is something about playing QB successfully that can’t be measured. It is what Brady, Rodger’s and Brees had between their ears. Their ability to see the field and coverage and read it quickly and find the right guy to pass it to. I have no idea if Howard has this but no one knows until they get tested.

    Also - one thing in common is that guys like Brady, Rodgers, Maholmes and Brees …. all of them sat for a bit and did not start right away. Jordan Love and Jalen Hurts did this too. I think there is much value in this

    Did they use the word dushe bag at all.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    Looking up Tom Brady’s scouting report - he was to be a future backup. No speed, not the strongest arm, limited to the pocket.

    Rodger’s report - above average arm strength, gets flustered …


    there is something about playing QB successfully that can’t be measured. It is what Brady, Rodger’s and Brees had between their ears. Their ability to see the field and coverage and read it quickly and find the right guy to pass it to. I have no idea if Howard has this but no one knows until they get tested.

    Also - one thing in common is that guys like Brady, Rodgers, Maholmes and Brees …. all of them sat for a bit and did not start right away. Jordan Love and Jalen Hurts did this too. I think there is much value in this
    there are alot of smart guys who didn't pan out as great or even good QB's (such as Josh Dobbs). I think alot of it has to do with determination and putting in the time to study film and the extra work. Brady, Manning, Brees had that determination. Seems Hurts has it too. Its hard to figure out who will come from College, get that big time money, not let the distractions get in the way, and still work and practice long after most of their teammates have gone home for the day. How do scouts figure that one out? It is pretty much a crapshoot. Its easy to spot talent, but the focus and determination at the pro level? No one knows until the draftee is actually drafted...

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    there is something about playing QB successfully that can’t be measured. It is what Brady, Rodger’s and Brees had between their ears. Their ability to see the field and coverage and read it quickly and find the right guy to pass it to. I have no idea if Howard has this but no one knows until they get tested.
    Exactly. We had people here making final and absolute decisions about a certain QB's upside and downside after only two years. Now we have people here relegating the new guy to career backup before he's even taken a snap at training camp.

    Never have so many thought they knew so much based on so little.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    When it comes to "arm strength" who would your rather have? Jeff George (rocket) or Joe Montana (above average)?

    Give me the guy that can read a defense and make the throws versus a guy like Donovan McNabb who throws rockets at players feet.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

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    He was certainly productive at Ohio St. There is no denying that. He certainly throws a nice deep ball.

    The concern comes from who he was playing with. He had multiple high draft picks playing on his offensive line, two high draft picks playing in the backfield behind him, and the best set of wide receivers in college football by a mile. Egbuka was a high draft pick and Jeremiah Smith is considered by many to be the best WR prospect in the history of football! No, I am not kidding! He was far better than Egbuka, and Smith is a freshman.

    These facts don't disqualify Howard from the discussion of whether he is as good as his numbers say. It is just something that has to be considered when evaluating him.

    He is now with the Steelers and has two outstanding deep ball wide receivers to throw to, plus a smaller speedster like Calvin Austin that could get behind people.

    I am really hoping that his game translates to the pro game. I believe he has an advantage coming from the system he played in and what he was asked to do. In that regard, Howard and Shough are probably the two rookie quarterbacks most ready to play right now because of the experience, playing under center, experience using play action, and just having a lot of knowledge built up from playing in multiple systems.

    I'm pulling for him to make the jump. I'm excited just to see a new, young player with a chance to develop and become a great quarterback. I love watching the process.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I'm pulling for him to make the jump. I'm excited just to see a new, young player with a chance to develop and become a great quarterback. I love watching the process.
    Me too. I just hope the Steelers don't give up on him if he happens to hit a little rough patch.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    I listened to Ben talk about the Howard pick, and he’s really high on him. He also mentioned how the media keeps pointing out that Will had a lot of talent around him in college, but as Ben said, he’ll be surrounded by talent in the NFL too. He even added that it was one of the most ridiculous comments he’s ever heard.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I listened to Ben talk about the Howard pick, and he’s really high on him. He also mentioned how the media keeps pointing out that Will had a lot of talent around him in college, but as Ben said, he’ll be surrounded by talent in the NFL too. He even added that it was one of the most ridiculous comments he’s ever heard.
    It is a strange comment to say when meant as a knock. He played with NFL caliber players. Should mean he's more up to the speed of the game, better understands the abilities of the guys he'll be playing with and against. For those that scream about level of competition every draft, playing on a team with multiple pro level guys should be a plus. That's how I view it anyway.

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    Re: Steelers select Will Howard, QB, The Ohio State #185 overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    It is a strange comment to say when meant as a knock. He played with NFL caliber players. Should mean he's more up to the speed of the game, better understands the abilities of the guys he'll be playing with and against. For those that scream about level of competition every draft, playing on a team with multiple pro level guys should be a plus. That's how I view it anyway.

    I understood it as a knock on the media, not on Howard. I think Ben’s comment was actually in defense of Will. He was pointing out that Will had good players around him in college, he played very well in that context, and Ben expects him to continue playing well in the pros where he'll also have talented teammates. Ben’s point, as I see it, is that while some in the media are saying Will only looked good because of the talent around him, he believes that’s exactly why Will will keep performing at a high level in the NFL. Just my paraphrase, of course.

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