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    2025 Draft QB Talk

    I think the Steelers are in an unique position to draft a QB this draft. There are not many teams looking at QBs right now. To start this discussion what do you PSU fans think of Drew Allar? He has BigBen size and shows the ability to extend plays and find open receivers late like Ben could. Looking at this highlight film I just don't see the downfield throws. What do you fans think of Allar and what are his strengths and weaknesses?

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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    Will Howard played at Kansas State, just transferred to OSU. Will be interesting to watch him this season. Another BigBen size-wise, but with real running ability. This QB has a pretty nice deep ball as well. Anybody watch OSU games chime in on your thoughts of Will Howard this season.


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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    I’m interested to see how Riley Leonard fares at Notre Dame after a great 2022 and an injury riddled 2023. I think he has potential. Good size/speed combination.

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    I don’t think the Steelers will be taking a QB in R1 though. Maybe R2-3. I think they’ll go WR in R1.

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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I think the Steelers are in an unique position to draft a QB this draft. There are not many teams looking at QBs right now. To start this discussion what do you PSU fans think of Drew Allar? He has BigBen size and shows the ability to extend plays and find open receivers late like Ben could. Looking at this highlight film I just don't see the downfield throws. What do you fans think of Allar and what are his strengths and weaknesses?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSlTFFCQcFk
    Allar chokes. One series he will look like the next coming. The next two series, he looks lost. Fourth series, he will tear it up. A lot of inconsistencies with him.


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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I’m interested to see how Riley Leonard fares at Notre Dame after a great 2022 and an injury riddled 2023. I think he has potential. Good size/speed combination.

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    I don’t think the Steelers will be taking a QB in R1 though. Maybe R2-3. I think they’ll go WR in R1.
    I am in no way predicting 1st round QB. I just think we are in a very strategic position when it comes to QBs this draft.

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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I am in no way predicting 1st round QB. I just think we are in a very strategic position when it comes to QBs this draft.
    I'm very interested to see how Allar does this season. He's got some nice skills but isn't consistent enough for me to jump for joy. He's better than Sean Clifford IMO and Id take him but not as a first round pick and not as the future investment of the franchise...unless he balls out this season.


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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    Kyle McCord

    Best passer in the draft, IMO.

    Strengths:


    • Lightning-quick release with pristine mechanics - gets the ball out in under 2.5 seconds consistently while maintaining perfect spiral rotation through his throwing motion

    • Surgical accuracy in the 15-25 yard range, particularly on deep out routes and seam throws where he shows NFL-caliber ball placement

    • Advanced pre-snap recognition allows him to diagnose coverages and work through progressions with veteran-like poise in the pocket

    • Nasty deep ball with perfect arc and touch - consistently hits receivers in stride on vertical routes beyond 40 yards

    • Shows excellent pocket movement and subtle slides to buy time while keeping his eyes downfield hunting for big plays

    • Between-the-ears acumen shines in red zone situations where he consistently makes sound decisions

    • Throws with outstanding anticipation on timing routes, particularly on comebacks and deep curls where he releases before the break

    • Natural leader who commanded respect in two major programs


    Weakness:


    • Limited athleticism restricts his ability to extend plays outside structure - won't threaten defenses as a designed runner at the next level

    • Can get overly aggressive attacking tight windows downfield, leading to forced throws when safer options are available underneath

    • Base mechanics can deteriorate under heavy pressure, causing some sailing passes when he can't step into throws

    • Occasionally locks onto primary read too long, missing opportunities to hit check-downs when deep shots aren't there

    • Will need to adjust arm angles more frequently in NFL to navigate throwing lanes against faster, more athletic defenders
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    Re: 2025 Draft QB Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Kyle McCord

    Best passer in the draft, IMO.

    Strengths:


    • Lightning-quick release with pristine mechanics - gets the ball out in under 2.5 seconds consistently while maintaining perfect spiral rotation through his throwing motion
    • Surgical accuracy in the 15-25 yard range, particularly on deep out routes and seam throws where he shows NFL-caliber ball placement
    • Advanced pre-snap recognition allows him to diagnose coverages and work through progressions with veteran-like poise in the pocket
    • Nasty deep ball with perfect arc and touch - consistently hits receivers in stride on vertical routes beyond 40 yards
    • Shows excellent pocket movement and subtle slides to buy time while keeping his eyes downfield hunting for big plays
    • Between-the-ears acumen shines in red zone situations where he consistently makes sound decisions
    • Throws with outstanding anticipation on timing routes, particularly on comebacks and deep curls where he releases before the break
    • Natural leader who commanded respect in two major programs


    Weakness:


    • Limited athleticism restricts his ability to extend plays outside structure - won't threaten defenses as a designed runner at the next level
    • Can get overly aggressive attacking tight windows downfield, leading to forced throws when safer options are available underneath
    • Base mechanics can deteriorate under heavy pressure, causing some sailing passes when he can't step into throws
    • Occasionally locks onto primary read too long, missing opportunities to hit check-downs when deep shots aren't there
    • Will need to adjust arm angles more frequently in NFL to navigate throwing lanes against faster, more athletic defenders
    I agree. McCord seems to be the best pure passer in this class of QBs. He does tend to stare down his target.... fixable. He seems to be comfortable in shotgun or under Center. I tend to think he and Will Howard will be eventual starters in the league.

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    I was a fan of Lynch, Trask, and Mayfield too, do not the best evaluator.

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