Seriously, how many more .501 seasons?
How many more Groundhog's Day do we need? At least in that movie Bill Murray was progressing.
This team is stuck in a rut and just doing the same thing over and over...
Blow this thing up. Trade TJ and anything for draft capital and rebuild this team. Hell, trade Tomlin if that will bring you picks. I'll take some losing seasons if that's what it takes.
Need new ownership for that plan.
I’d trade Tomlin for two first round picks and Breece Hall to the Jets. I’d even go a second instead of a first. Then I’d immediately hire Vrabel or I’d throw the dice on Ben Johnson.l at the same time, I’d have someone in the phone with Mike Munchak for either him or a conversation leading to who he would recommend as an O-Line coach. All would be done by Friday.
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They won't fire him next year. I think most agree here he won't be fired. I do believe that Art will copy what his father did the year before Noll was fired. Noll was told he had to fire nearly the whole staff (Tony Dungy even got the axe). I think there is a good chance that Smith is the only assistant coach not fired this off season. I personally think he deserves another year with a QB that can run his offense, but I understand the reasons some want him one and done.
if I was running the team , I would put him on the trade market to get out of the contract and try and get some draft capital for him ...I mean all the Tomlin defenders say he would be out of work for a whole 5 min if we fired him so lets give teams a chance to trade for him and see if there are ANY takers ...
5 consecutive losses to finish the season is enough for me to say goodbye
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Asses are in seats, AR2 gives no fucks.
Again, NEVER winning a SB with Tomlin at the helm.
Well, except for the SB win.
I heard this said many times of the Rooneys between Super Bowls 14 and 40. Then 40 and 43 happened.
Not sure AR2 is like his father.
I think they’ll want him to get rid of Austin, and he’ll probably oblige in order to stay in Pittsburgh. I’ll be surprised if they let him go or trade him. If its more of the same for the remainder f his contract, they’ll let him finish it out but wont renew.
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They’ll never fire Tomlin. All defensive coach’s need shown in door.
For those i love i will sacrifice.
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That is a tough question. The simple answer is no - he is not his father. I would argue that Dan Rooney is the best owner in American team sports history. That's a bold statement, but he built and presided over the dynasty and then rebuilt the team and gave us a second act. Art II will never live up to that standard. Whether he can build and preside over a championship team the jury is still out. It has to be noted that it was not ART II who fought for Tomlin to be the head coach, but Dan. Fans can believe what they want, but it seems very unlikely to me that if Dan was still in charge that he would fire Tomlin.
I will just try and stay positive. Cowher eventually broke his AFC Championship drought. The Eagles last year fell apart at the end of the season and have clawed back this year. IMO, Tomlin is a better coach than Nick Sirianni, even with his faults. The medicine to fix problems is take one big dose of a franchise QB, even if you have to search the entire planet to find him.
I’d trade Tomlin for two first round picks and Breece Hall to the Jets. I’d even go a second instead of a first. Then I’d immediately hire Vrabel or I’d throw the dice on Ben Johnson.l at the same time, I’d have someone in the phone with Mike Munchak for either him or a conversation leading to who he would recommend as an O-Line coach. All would be done by Friday.
Welcome, guys.
Looks like some of the Good Ol' Boys are finally realizing that I actually WAS the "voice of reason".
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It's Ground Hog day for a reason guys.
Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day
Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.
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Not to mention that 4 of those 5 were beatdowns.
Yeah . It would be nice to see them being scrappy and just losing to a better team, but the blowouts speak volumes about the quality of the roster and coaches
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That’s always the cure. They just don’t grow on trees and really there’s less than a handful in the NFL.
IDK, When i watch the Steelers they aren't the physical team i'm used to. The Steelers used to be the bully now they seem like the victims.
When you get run over and kick on 4th and inches. Coach has not a clue
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Tomlin fans outnumber Steeler fans on here.
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But where did your blind love for Tomlin go?I’d trade Tomlin for two first round picks and Breece Hall to the Jets. I’d even go a second instead of a first. Then I’d immediately hire Vrabel or I’d throw the dice on Ben Johnson.l at the same time, I’d have someone in the phone with Mike Munchak for either him or a conversation leading to who he would recommend as an O-Line coach. All would be done by Friday.
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A handful is about max. Many less than get the designation, because of all the players that look like it but are not and the ones that are but only do it for a very short period of time.
I never get my hopes built when the Steelers go on a little winning streak in the season because in the back f my mind I know a late season collapse is gonna happen.tomlin has had his chances and I do think he is a good coach honestly however no playoff wins since 2017 is very discerning Wilson/fields was supposed to be the cure for Pickett but the results are very similar so I personally don't think its the QB now in comes a new OC with the same result an early exit in the playoffs so what's next to blame The DC, the GM, Rooney? I think it's Tomlin he is for me the 1 constant in the whole thing just my opinion.
Took a tour of the media coverage.
Found that many geniuses made a version of the following argument:
1. Tomlin and everyone else should be fired because the team doesn't win playoff games.
2. The team can't and won't win playoff games without a franchise QB.
Clearly the coaching staff refusing to coschbsll those franchise QBs laying around. Fools!
It’s still there. He’s the greatest coach the Steelers ever had.
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Dan was a true football guy. Art is a lawyer who inherited a football team.
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Watching the Broncos vs Bills and seeing what real coaching looks like, the Bills are absolutely more talented at every level right now and they are putting up a fight instead of laying an egg in the first half. The Steelers are more talented than the Broncos aside from QB and maybe OL and we managed what, 56yds in the entire first half. This is what Rooney needs to be watching, a coaching staff that actually knows how to coach instead of one that know how to say things in interviews.
They didn't win in 2017. They had a great team in 2017 (peak AB and Bell), a bye week and lost to the Jaguars at home 45-42 in their first playoff game. There last win was in 2016 in the Divisional round against KC (the year before they got Mahomes) when the future was foreseen with the Steelers not scoring a TD but winning on six Boz field goals 18-16.
They have been pure garbage since beating Miami at home in 2016. Since 2016 they have been outscored in the playoffs 194-131. A lot of their points were garbage time comeback points when the other team was closing the game out.
2016 - Win: Steelers 18 Chiefs 16 (Year before Mahomes and we couldn't even score a TD, needed 6 FGs from Boz)
2017 - Loss: Jags 45 Steelers 42 (#2 seed with bye)
2020 - Loss: Browns 48 Steelers 37 (It was 35-7 at one point in this game and the team had started the season 11-0)
2021 - Loss: Chiefs 42 Steelers 21 (Ben's last game and it showed, he was clearly done)
2023 - Loss: Bills 31 Steelers 17 (At least they finally held a team under 40 points)
2024 - Loss: Ravens 28 Steelers 14 (Closer then it looked, but we all just watched it. Tomlin embarrassed yet again)
Technically they won in 2017. That’s probably what he means.
Yeah but it is easier to keep the calendar season with the playoffs but I get it.
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Denver has a rookie QB that looks light years better then RW. Looks like they knew what they were doing when they got rid of him.
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