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    Re: QB 2025

    Kyle McCord should be on the list of prospects the Steelers should at least consider.

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    They had a dinner meeting with Milroe before Alabama pro-day.

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    Based on recent off seasons, the Steelers will pick the outcome that makes me want to wade into the ocean.

    So they trade Pickens and a raft of draft picks to go get Ssnders. Then nail him to bench behind Rudolph for 9 weeks. The. He’ll play and look overrated and terrible.

    Can’t wait.

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    If QB at 21, likely suspects are Ward, Sanders, Dart, or Milroe. We didn't make that bed but it's ours anyway. I'm not first round high on any of them but you gotta have a QB. Nobody wants a retread veteran in his twilight. Nobody wants a first round rookie that should fall to the third round but won't. It suck's but this is where we are. Best path to the best solution is what? FA and rookie? Just FA? Mason and a rookie? None of these doors has an obvious shine new car behind it.

    My vote would be gamble and spin the wheel. Take a rookie and let's just buy hype and roll with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    If QB at 21, likely suspects are Ward, Sanders, Dart, or Milroe. We didn't make that bed but it's ours anyway. I'm not first round high on any of them but you gotta have a QB. Nobody wants a retread veteran in his twilight. Nobody wants a first round rookie that should fall to the third round but won't. It suck's but this is where we are. Best path to the best solution is what? FA and rookie? Just FA? Mason and a rookie? None of these doors has an obvious shine new car behind it.

    My vote would be gamble and spin the wheel. Take a rookie and let's just buy hype and roll with it.
    Yeah....I can't get behind that. It ignores logic and reason. We just experienced this as fans. In 2022, almost every analyst said the draft was historically weak at the QB position. Many of us followed the reasoning that no class could be that bad and there were always capable players that get overlooked. Well, the class was that bad. Almost every member of that class is settling comfortably and appropriately into their careers as journeyman backup QBs.

    From what I can tell, the 2025 class has few projectable traits and even less record of high level play for most of its prospects.

    I would honestly just rather pass on the whole mess and watch the team get clobbered behind some also ran dirtball FA QB. At least then I can get behind the hope of a future draft class. But to spend a first round pick for the second time in 4 years on another desperation heave of a likely backup QB? Hard pass. I can think of few things less depressing as a fan.

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    2025: ride with Rudolph, fits the system, can throw, can manage, sign Flacco as emergency, DRAFT a prospect QB in 3rd or 4th.
    2026 trade up to above 12 to get "The next one" from selecting one of the 3 - 5 very good prospects.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by ncgjka View Post
    2025: ride with Rudolph, fits the system, can throw, can manage, sign Flacco as emergency, DRAFT a prospect QB in 3rd or 4th.
    2026 trade up to above 12 to get "The next one" from selecting one of the 3 - 5 very good prospects.

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    2025: ride with Rudolph, fits the system, can throw, can manage, sign Flacco as emergency, DRAFT a prospect QB in 3rd or 4th.
    2026 trade up using comp pics, to above 12 and get "The next one" from selecting one of the 3 - 5 very good prospects.

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    Takes 2 to make a trade. Not a guarantee. Even if we trade 4 comp picks and our next years 1st does not guarantee finding a trade partner. If a QB should become available this draft I think you have to take him. When is the next 'good' QB class? We NEED a QB.

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    Re: QB 2025

    If the 2025 season goes the way many suspect it will, the Steelers won't need to trade up to take a QB.

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    I won't believe this team will go under .500 until it happens.


    Rudolph, Pickett, Trubisky, Duck, Fields.

    Tomlin finds a way to get it done.

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    Re: QB 2025

    This draft is the most important draft in a long time. It’ll set the stage for the future Qb. At least receiver is covered (they shouldn't trade GP).

    for this year it’ll depend on the performance of the O line more than any other unit (even Qb). A good o line can make MR or whoever is in there look good. Meyer has to earn his paycheck this year.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Let’s collectively move on from Rodgers. We need a future franchise QB and Rodgers is not it.


    i would love to see a headline on the newswire saying “Pittsburgh has moved on and has told Rodgers that they will not sign him”.

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    Signing Flacco is a bigger joke than Rogers only eclipsed by any of the former Browns QBs.
    All Defense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    Let’s collectively move on from Rodgers. We need a future franchise QB and Rodgers is not it.


    i would love to see a headline on the newswire saying “Pittsburgh has moved on and has told Rodgers that they will not sign him”.
    They can sign Rodgers while looking for a future QB.

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    Re: QB 2025

    I heard something that gave me some optimism. DK the reporter was throwing out a hypothesis that the Steelers are not waiting or desperate for Rodgers. He thinks the Steelers low balled Rodgers … by a lot and that is why Rodgers had his minions in the media like this Russini person throw out a story that the Vikings were interested. (“Hey Russini - do me this favor and I’ll give you an exclusive story later”). Also that is why the Steelers are ok with Rodgers taking his time to give a response - because it’s a low offer. They know Rodgers does not want to go to the Giants and there really is no one else out there except the Steelers that are in a position to win. So knowing this - why not low ball him.

    The Steelers qb plan for this year since bombing out with Fields and Wilson is to find a young QB (or two?) in the draft and see who can possibly be a franchise qb. Rodgers is out there and doesn’t hurt to throw an offer to him but it does hurt the Steelers to overpay him and use up salary cap space that could potentially elsewhere.

    I like this hypothesis if it’s true

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    you clearly hadnt seen him play at all ....

    he has value , IMO not 3rd round value at this point but he has value none the less ...

    1 start vs Bills week 17.... 22-27-241 yards and a TD if memory serves ... he clearly isnt close to a finished product but that shows there is something to work with and he can play at this level as a 2nd year player (now those stats are as a rookie) there is value in that
    He is just not a passer. He shows no signs of having a touch. It looks more like he is chucking a baseball rather than a football. He played 6 years in college and amounted to nothing. I think he has reached his ceiling. Of course this is just my opinion : )

    The game you mentioned was against the Bills' bench players.

    vs the Red... I mean Commanders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFFPGdvBSmk

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    I hope we get Shedeur Sanders. I really just want that boom or bust guy in the QB room. Honestly, no pressure. We know he can learn a play book and read a defense. Let him work a season with Arthur Smith and Tom Arth. At some point in the season he takes over for Mason Rudolph.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    He is just not a passer. He shows no signs of having a touch. It looks more like he is chucking a baseball rather than a football. He played 6 years in college and amounted to nothing. I think he has reached his ceiling. Of course this is just my opinion : )

    The game you mentioned was against the Bills' bench players.

    vs the Red... I mean Commanders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFFPGdvBSmk

    https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ne...win-despite-it

    so instead of week 18 game vs the Bills ( "backups" but not all backups ) you would rather use week 3 preseason tape as your game of evidence ....

    if a player isnt learning then his ceiling has been reached , but as long as they are learning and improving they have not yet maximized their talents / abilities ...least that is how most people see it anyways ... if you can't see the difference in those two tapes then I am not sure what to tell you ... for my eyes he had learned , he had improved ... is he perfect hell no , but the improvement is clear and that is all anyone could hope for .... does that mean he becomes a star NOPE but it does mean he has untapped potential
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I hope we get Shedeur Sanders. I really just want that boom or bust guy in the QB room. Honestly, no pressure. We know he can learn a play book and read a defense. Let him work a season with Arthur Smith and Tom Arth. At some point in the season he takes over for Mason Rudolph.
    I don't want anything to do with Deion Sanders.

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    Maybe we ought to get a DT, or maybe even another LT, to kind of keep our existing Qb’s upright? Aside from Frazier, are we really solid at the other positions on the line?

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    Re: QB 2025

    Reports are Rodgers is at the facility in Pittsburgh currently.

    This is the least dumb option? I guess.

    Rodgers/Rudolph/Dart or Milroe. That isn't the worst collection of dirtballs this team has rolled out. But would Dart or Milroe be there in the third round? Because, to me, if you sign Rodgers, you have to draft an impact rookie in Round 1 or what was the point?

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    As long as Rudolph starts, which won't happen.. . Hate the idea of getting Rodgers. Hate. Will fuck up 1 year of Arthur offense, create QB vacuum, and media craziness which ain't Steelers best fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncgjka View Post
    As long as Rudolph starts, which won't happen.. . Hate the idea of getting Rodgers. Hate. Will fuck up 1 year of Arthur offense, create QB vacuum, and media craziness which ain't Steelers best fit

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    Re: QB 2025

    You know me. I’m a Ravens fan 100%, but I don’t post inflammatory shit like some others do. I speak truth (or at least a solid opinion lol) on my team and yours as it fits. And I have to say that I cannot recall more turmoil in a Steelers off-season like this one in a long, long time. I’ll be honest and say I have zero clue if this is all on ownership or Tomlin. Or a combination. But for a storied franchise to be entering April without a lock on a starting QB that can be counted on to win games is mind-boggling to me.

    Now, had they finished 3-14 and had a very high pick in the 1st round and a chance at a franchise QB, I could see letting Fields go and it looks like Wilson will go the Giants. IMO, Rudolph ain’t it. And also IMO, I’m not overly impressed with the quarterbacks in this draft. Granted, there’s always one in a draft that doesn’t look promising but turns out to be a stud, but this class doesn’t show that to me. I’m not really sold on Shedeur, and if you draft him, you draft Deon. I don’t know if Tomlin and Fields had personal issues, but last season I think they should have rode that horse all season and see how things turned out. He’s 26, so has years left to play.

    Is the average Steelers fan sweating bullets over this QB debacle? I would think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow-Magnon View Post
    You know me. I’m a Ravens fan 100%, but I don’t post inflammatory shit like some others do. I speak truth (or at least a solid opinion lol) on my team and yours as it fits. And I have to say that I cannot recall more turmoil in a Steelers off-season like this one in a long, long time. I’ll be honest and say I have zero clue if this is all on ownership or Tomlin. Or a combination. But for a storied franchise to be entering April without a lock on a starting QB that can be counted on to win games is mind-boggling to me.

    Now, had they finished 3-14 and had a very high pick in the 1st round and a chance at a franchise QB, I could see letting Fields go and it looks like Wilson will go the Giants. IMO, Rudolph ain’t it. And also IMO, I’m not overly impressed with the quarterbacks in this draft. Granted, there’s always one in a draft that doesn’t look promising but turns out to be a stud, but this class doesn’t show that to me. I’m not really sold on Shedeur, and if you draft him, you draft Deon. I don’t know if Tomlin and Fields had personal issues, but last season I think they should have rode that horse all season and see how things turned out. He’s 26, so has years left to play.

    Is the average Steelers fan sweating bullets over this QB debacle? I would think so.
    Only for myself, I'm not sweating bullets. This is something every team goes through/has gone through. It's just our turn. There are things that could have been done differently. Without a crystal ball nobody knows of those ways would have yielded better results or not. We can speculate both ways.

    I do like some of the QBs in this class. I think it would be a mistake to dismiss the position and try to wait until next season. Of course I don't know who will become what or who will fizzle out. But that's just it. Nobody does. If you guys hadn't decided to trade back into the first and get LJ, what is your current QB situation? One can only speculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow-Magnon View Post
    You know me. I’m a Ravens fan 100%, but I don’t post inflammatory shit like some others do. I speak truth (or at least a solid opinion lol) on my team and yours as it fits. And I have to say that I cannot recall more turmoil in a Steelers off-season like this one in a long, long time. I’ll be honest and say I have zero clue if this is all on ownership or Tomlin. Or a combination. But for a storied franchise to be entering April without a lock on a starting QB that can be counted on to win games is mind-boggling to me.

    Now, had they finished 3-14 and had a very high pick in the 1st round and a chance at a franchise QB, I could see letting Fields go and it looks like Wilson will go the Giants. IMO, Rudolph ain’t it. And also IMO, I’m not overly impressed with the quarterbacks in this draft. Granted, there’s always one in a draft that doesn’t look promising but turns out to be a stud, but this class doesn’t show that to me. I’m not really sold on Shedeur, and if you draft him, you draft Deon. I don’t know if Tomlin and Fields had personal issues, but last season I think they should have rode that horse all season and see how things turned out. He’s 26, so has years left to play.

    Is the average Steelers fan sweating bullets over this QB debacle? I would think so.
    I for one, am not sweating bullets. No fan has control over team decisions. Happy about what is going on? No. Those that sweat bullets are putting alot of undue stress on themselves IMHO.

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    Re: QB 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow-Magnon View Post
    You know me. I’m a Ravens fan 100%, but I don’t post inflammatory shit like some others do. I speak truth (or at least a solid opinion lol) on my team and yours as it fits. And I have to say that I cannot recall more turmoil in a Steelers off-season like this one in a long, long time. I’ll be honest and say I have zero clue if this is all on ownership or Tomlin. Or a combination. But for a storied franchise to be entering April without a lock on a starting QB that can be counted on to win games is mind-boggling to me.

    Now, had they finished 3-14 and had a very high pick in the 1st round and a chance at a franchise QB, I could see letting Fields go and it looks like Wilson will go the Giants. IMO, Rudolph ain’t it. And also IMO, I’m not overly impressed with the quarterbacks in this draft. Granted, there’s always one in a draft that doesn’t look promising but turns out to be a stud, but this class doesn’t show that to me. I’m not really sold on Shedeur, and if you draft him, you draft Deon. I don’t know if Tomlin and Fields had personal issues, but last season I think they should have rode that horse all season and see how things turned out. He’s 26, so has years left to play.

    Is the average Steelers fan sweating bullets over this QB debacle? I would think so.
    Nope. Don't want Rodgers but I will still watch.

    We went through QB carousels before. Older fans don't want to remember but we did.



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