A legit QB would need to be available. There aren't any.Originally Posted by feltdizz
We went through this same sort of thing through the 90's and early 00's between O'Donnell and Ben. Tomczak, Stewart, Graham, Maddox.
It worked out alright in the end.
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Russ is the better option between him and ARod. I don't really want either, to be honest. There has to be someone else out there.
You are not wrong.
For me, my personal biases come out in the who plays QB discussions.
I HATE the concept of “bridge QBs” so that makes me just totally against the Trubisky’s and Daniel Jones of the world.
And I similarly don’t like old playing out the string veterans. Wilson and Rodgers are extremely unlikely to be “good” NFL QBs in 2025.
I’d rather the Steelers trade for or draft some unknown young player with at least one (preferably a couple) of big time physical traits and let the youngin play.
There’s got to be some relatively unheralded QB hanging out on a depth chart blocked by an entrenched starter that has like a tool or two somewhere.
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Take a chance on Trey Lance?
We can ask Kyle Trask?
Go-getter Desmond Ridder?
Pro Bowler Tyler Huntley is UFA. Sam Ehlinger or Daniel Jones? These are guys under 30 that are UFA.
I missed Mac Jones.
Idk. Either one of these young guns or a retread 3rd contract guy. Pick your poison.
not exactly awe inspiring ....
They didnt give up a 2nd round pick and 33 million per year to hand the keys of the franchise to a never has been and likely never will be as those on the above list ....
this draft isnt all that inspiring so unless Dart is IMO over drafted by a lot at 21 (some think he could go top 10 , others say not till early rd 3) what else are you going to do trade for a guy like Milton or Willis who both had limited success or go get a former 4x league MVP and hope he can duplicate his numbers from last year without tainting your organization any more than it already is ?
Last season like it or not was not Aaron Rodgers fault the Jets were 5-12 .... his numbers were fine ... nearly 3900 yards passing 28 tds and 11 ints ... coming off an Achilles injury I'd say that wasnt bad at all ...
do I like the Idea , HELL NO!!!! but at this point you didnt load up at WR the way we did to have Trey Lance or Mason Rudolph throw them the ball ...
They have to be all in on A-Rod and hope he has something more than what Russ had left in the tank
again have I mentioned I hate it ??
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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Lol.....
This is where we are isn't it. So, bring in ARod, draft a rookie, see what Skylar Thompson has to offer. Once again we go with the hot hand.
sadly , we are ...........
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Trey Lance
Malik Willis
Hendon Hooker
Joe Milton III
Jameis Winston
I would rather roll the dice that one of these guys is a low end NFL starter than pay Rodgers $50 million a season to be a shell of his former self on the field and a noticeable off field annoyance as well.
He was less than ideal as a teammate and leader when he was in Green Bay and winning MVP awards and now he’s worse off and on the field.
I understand the Steelers won’t do anything but sign Rodgers. I get it. That’s their ingrained philosophy. The “best” player at any given time.
I just strongly believe they’re gonna lose that bet fairly spectacularly.
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So $30 mil guarantee for Fields (Steelers were willing to pay $20 mil guarantee) and $55 mil guarantee to Darnold.
I am thinking $40 -45 mil guarantee for Rodgers would be what I expect.
Steelers want to win now. I get it. It seems they believe Rodgers gives them the best chance to win now. Hopefully they are better evaluators of Rodgers remaining talents than we on this message board are.
Maybe it wasnt Rodgers, maybe it was the jets system.
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I actually love the idea of Joe Milton. Same as Justin Fields, IMO. Only without the accumulated NFL starts.
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This is from Alan Saunders on Steelersnow.com I was wondering why the Steelers were so quiet in free agency and this explains it. They are trying to accumulate draft capital to move up next year 2026 draft that will be in Pittsburgh. What a splash to be drafting let’s say Arch Manning with the 4th pick in front of Steeler fans next year.
https://steelersnow.com/omar-khan-ju...k-problem/amp/
“As things stand on Tuesday morning, the Steelers are set to net an additional third, four, fifth and two sixth-round picks in the 2026 NFL Draft.
Let’s say the Steelers once again go 10-7 in 2025, and they’re once again drafting around pick No. 20 in 2026. If they trade the extra draft picks that they gained on Monday to move up in the class, according to the Fitzgerald-Spielberger NFL Draft Trade Value Chart, they would be able to jump from No. 20 to No. 4 — leaving the rest of their usual draft class intact.
The draft is in Pittsburgh next year. The 2026 quarterback class looks strong, led by Texas scion Arch Manning, Penn State’s Drew Allar, LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier and Tennessee’s Nico Iamaleava.”
Yup, me too.
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I hate the idea of A-Rod too but I believe he gives us the best chance in the post season ....
most here hated the Fields / Russ idea a year ago but the vast majority changed their minds and wanted us to sign Fields to a new deal ...
winning cures a lot of things .......
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
I'm telling you if they get in that spot I see them trading up for Sam Leavitt from Arizona state. I posted an article about Hines Ward (who is the Arizona state WR coach) raving about him, comparing him to Ben.
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This is pretty much where I am on this whole thing. I hate it, but it looks like that train is pulling into the station.
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I am thinking Kirk Cousins will soon be in the picture if Rodgers continues to be a dick
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Tannehill is still on the FA list. Just saying.
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Now I'm reading someone from the Sporting News saying the Steelers are trading for Kyler Murray.
Big Ben took a picture of himself wearing a Steelers helmet. He may come back.
The Steelers have seemingly been linked to every single person that has ever played quarterback in the NFL.
seen the interview with Ben about that video of him in helmet saying he might throw his hat in the ring and he said in the interview he got his boys outside and he couldnt over throw the oldest so he is out .... it was all a joke to begin with
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
If you squish Wilson and Fields together, I think Kyler Murray pops out the other side.
Sure. Why not?
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Rodgers has earned $380 million in his NFL career and even with all that he still wants more.
I have known this but the sad thing about money is that it’s never enough. There is always someone richer with things that they can buy that Rodgers with $380 mil can’t so while I thought he couldn’t care that much about money I guess he does. I can’t say I begrudge him because I would probably do the same. But if he goes to the Giants because of more money - then he clearly doesn’t belong here.
Because the Steelers recognized they both stink and let them go?
Any comment on the fact that the Eagles thought so "highly" of Pickett that they have promptly traded him away?
See my post in the "Did the Steelers Screw Up With Kenny Pickett?" thread.
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Nobody is saying that Pickett is a great player. Most people that support him think he wasn't given a real chance to develop with the Steelers, and that the team screwed the whole process up. That's all.
I have no idea how Kenny Pickett is going to do in Cleveland. All I know is that the Browns traded a fifth round pick and a quarterback on their roster to the Eagles to acquire Pickett. The Eagles made the trade because they have a third quarterback that looks promising and won't cost as much as Pickett as his rookie contract will be expiring. They have a starting quarterback and just won a Super Bowl. The Eagles also just lost about 8 other players because other teams want the good players they have that helped them win a championship this past season.
It is looking like there is a distinct possibility that Pickett may get a chance to be the starting quarterback in Cleveland and they gave up assets to get him. How does that make Kenny Pickett look bad?
The Steelers have been signing quarterbacks that have been released from the teams they were playing for and that team getting no compensation for them leaving...and that nobody else wants....yet you somehow believe you are making a point about how bad Pickett is?
The Steelers thought Justin Fields stunk so bad that they offered him a contract and waited months for an answer from him. They even waited well into the first day of free agency until Fields gave them his answer that he would rather be somewhere else as other quarterbacks accepted contracts to go to new teams.
The Steelers were left holding their collective dicks with no other quarterbacks in place.
The Steelers continue to beg quarterbacks to come to play for them, yet nobody seems to want to be here unless they have nowhere else to go. There is nothing about the way they have handled the offense and the quarterback position the last 6-7 years that shows that the team and the head coach knows what they're doing when it comes to offense or evaluating and developing quarterbacks.....Nothing.
The Steelers keep offering contracts to quarterbacks as if they should want to come here and play for free for the honor of playing for Mike Tomlin. The team doesn't seem to realize that the Steelers are no longer an elite destination for quarterbacks precisely because of how badly they have handled the quarterback situation for years now.
Pittsburgh has become a place where quarterbacks go to die until proven otherwise.
Sad, but true.
You do realize another team wanted Kenny. He wasn’t released or cut.
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The morning radio show was talking about the Steelers and the hunt for a QB. They started throwing out names and were discussing if they thought the QB would work in Pittsburgh. The only reason they could come up with for Kyler Murray is because he beat the Steelers when they last played so Tomlin might want him. I think we agree that's high level stupidity. But...that's the only mention of Murray to the Steelers I have heard until you posted the Sporting News is talking about it. I wonder if that 'someone' listened to the same show I heard.
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The Browns still have to pay the 'Lady Charmer' this season and he may not even be back from his achilles. So they traded a 5th and their backup QB for Pickett. Most mock drafts still have the Browns taking Cam Ward at #2 if the Titans don't take him. Pickett is not a bad move here. They at least have someone in the room that has taken NFL starting snaps. Who knows, maybe he becomes the next Bernie Kosar?
The Eagles are letting guys go after that SB run. Someone listed what they were paying their stars and we could all see that was a top heavy payroll. Picking up an extra 5th while dropping a contract with KP was easy math for them. I don't think it was a performance based decision by either team. He played well enough for the Eagles, and I don't believe the Browns are expecting him to come in and be their savior either.
I will say I wish he had gone somewhere out of the division. Not that I'm worried about facing him twice a season, but now these conversations start all over again every time it's Browns week.
The Iggles traded their borderline third string Qb for the Browns borderline third string QB. The dude from the Browns plays more like Hurts than KP does. So the Eagles do not have to change their offense as much if they get that far down the depth chart. Then there is the draft pick and cap math from the post above.
This is not some sweeping statement about much of anything.
I also agree with the post above that the Steelers are behind the times with their valuation of QB contracts. Cap went up a crap ton this off-season. They are trying to pay what WAS low end starter money (and I get why) but is actually now back-up QB money. The market changed on them and they were caught a bit unawares. It happens.
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Back to QB 2025....
Jameis Winston has zero thought process when it comes to throwing the ball. He just let's it go and hopes his guy comes down with it. In the case of Pickens and Metcalf, that may work out more often than it doesn't. I still would never want him as our starter. Backup maybe.
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