Describe Your Coach

[Mojouw]

Let's assume this message board got out in charge. Every current coach for the Steelers is fired or hired on your decision.

What are you looking for in a new staff?

I'd hire a "culture builder" over ascheme guy. Basically Im looking for another Ciwher or Tomlin.

My checklist:
Young
Not tied to a specific scheme
Willingness to hire innovative and unproven assistant cosches
Clear vision for how to solve the QB position. Including trading existing players and picks to drive a goal oriented rebuild.

Not much of a specific list but it's how I'd guide my search.

What about you all?

[Born2Steel]

Looks like you're searching for a new GM. HC candidates are going to have a 'method'. Otherwise they wouldn't be candidates. Head coach by committee is just not gonna work in real life. Somebody has to be leading the room. These guys are mostly all alpha personalities. Without a strong HC I think it would result in chaos and the Ryan family.

I would start with a coach that is a hard ass. I don't care the age but I prefer a coach that football is his life. He knows enough about the game itself to understand how to find the coordinators. These coordinators would keep changing every 3-4 years due to getting hired away because of their results. Same with position coaches. I would want a HC that can identify which position coaches are ready for promotion or need to be replaced.

This is also mostly a pipe dream except maybe in the college ranks.

[Dwinsgames]

I keep using the same formula that has been successful for the last 56 years (Noll Hiring date) its worked pretty well to this point and if it aint broke don't try and fix it ...

[Born2Steel]

I keep using the same formula that has been successful for the last 56 years (Noll Hiring date) its worked pretty well to this point and if it aint broke don't try and fix it ...

If you were to detail that formula, what would that look like?

[Dwinsgames]

If you were to detail that formula, what would that look like?

the only change I would make I think is instead of going Young up and coming defensive coach I may swap that out with young up and coming offensive minded coach that will hire and let full control of the defense to his coordinator and preferably one who prefers to run the scheme that we already have the personnel for (in other words a 3-4 minded Coach) as its hard enough to switch schemes and personnel in short order and have success

[steelcityboyz]

I want a no nosense coach who isn't afraid to hurt a players feelings or disipline a player when they do stupid things and think they are above the team. A coach who knows the game inside and out and has a solid game plan. A coach who has his players prepared for game day..

[Dwinsgames]

one capable of a tree , cause contrary to some folks belief ....

Tree's matter

[El Kabong]

These days people want a brilliant offensive-minded coach. A McVay, a Shanahan, a Reid. Someone who schemes receivers open, consistently converts on short yardage plays, is almost always correct in throwing or not throwing the challenge flag, someone who knows how to manage the clock and how to use time outs at the ends of halfs.

[Voice of Reason]

I want a no nosense coach who isn't afraid to hurt a players feelings or disipline a player when they do stupid things and think they are above the team. A coach who knows the game inside and out and has a solid game plan. A coach who has his players prepared for game day..

All that, plus one more thing:

A COACH WHO KNOWS HOW THE HELL TO DEVELOP A YOUNG QUARTERBACK !!!

[Steeldude]

I keep using the same formula that has been successful for the last 56 years (Noll Hiring date) its worked pretty well to this point and if it aint broke don't try and fix it ...

That stopped when they hired Tomlin.

[Dwinsgames]

That stopped when they hired Tomlin.

I wouldnt go that far .... Tomlin has been here 18 years , Hoisted a Lombardi in those 18 years only 17 other winners ( yeah I know math) but 32 teams and his team managed to do it .... I can not and will not dog him like he is chopped liver .... but IMO he isnt top shelf either at least not any more .... maybe the message has gotten stale over time , perhaps he doesnt have the same fire he once had I wont pretend to know but what I do know is the results when it matters most the last idk half dozen years have not been good enough and he is " well compensated" (his words) so it should be his head too

[Steelersfan]

Let's assume this message board got out in charge. Every current coach for the Steelers is fired or hired on your decision.

What are you looking for in a new staff? I'd hire a "culture builder" over ascheme guy. Basically Im looking for another Ciwher or Tomlin.

My checklist:
Young
Not tied to a specific scheme
Willingness to hire innovative and unproven assistant coaches
Clear vision for how to solve the QB position. Including trading existing players and picks to drive a goal oriented rebuild.

Not much of a specific list but it's how I'd guide my search. What about you all?

I assume you posted "UNPROVEN" but meant to post "PROVEN".

In baseball the teams head honcho is called a manager. Some football head honchos are good managers & some are good coaches. Tomlin is a top of the league team manger. Bottom of the league coach who needs good to great "position coaches (staff) under him. I wanna a head honcho that knows & admits to his strengths & weaknesses.

If you are gonna another Tomlin type or keep Tomlin, what I want is: The GM & Owners (The Organization to have your #3 = Willingness to hire innovative and proven assistant coaches

I wouldnt go that far .... Tomlin has been here 18 years , Hoisted a Lombardi in those 18 years only 17 other winners ( yeah I know math) but 32 teams and his team managed to do it .... I can not and will not dog him like he is chopped liver .... but IMO he isnt top shelf either at least not any more .... maybe the message has gotten stale over time , perhaps he doesnt have the same fire he once had I wont pretend to know but what I do know is the results when it matters most the last idk half dozen years have not been good enough and he is " well compensated" (his words) so it should be his head too

I don't dog Tomlin as much as others either. Great team manager & one of the most experienced (now-a-days) in the world. That experience doesn't go stale. The game does evolve though. Some managers/coaches/guys can keep up with that some need to hire innovators to their staff to do it for them. Tomlin needs to drop the arrogance & quit thinking his early success when he had with Cowher's coaches, was all him. It wasn't. Hire some innovators, motivators & communicators & teachers. Lebeau, Darrell Drake, Kirby Wilson, Bruce Arian's, Ken Whisenhut, Dick Hoak or Richard Mann Types.

[Mojouw]

Nah. I don't want "proven" guys. Those dudes don't innovate. Arthur Smith is the "proven" and "safe" hire. Did you see anything innovative about him at all in the past season?

[Mojouw]

Thought of a follow up question.

Who is doing more with less?

For instance, I think the Ravens roster is superior to the Steelers. But they’re basically the same team results wise.

I think the 49ers roster had been much better and the team got better results. Now the rosters are probably on par and the Niners got much worse results.

Maybe McVay and the Rams? Maybe the Packets? The Commanders? But that might just be Daniels.

[Steel Peon]

My coach would have a standard by which everyone would be measured and held to, and this would be standard. They would also have to make routine coaching decisions, routinely.

Seriously though, I would just be happy with clock management skills at this point.

[vasteeler]

I want to coach kind of like Bill Cowher but knows the importance of a quarterback

[EzraTank]

See Mike Vrabel.

[Mojouw]

Wait are you saying that the coach who ran out Tannehill and Will Levis is a QB focused coach? Really?

Vrabel's entire career until he landed ass backwards on top of Drake Maye has been the precise approach that the Steelers are currently trying to replicate.

Apologies if I did not understand the last sequence of postings.

[El Kabong]

See Mike Vrabel.

What has Vrabel ever won?

[Voice of Reason]

For instance, I think the Ravens roster is superior to the Steelers. But they’re basically the same team results wise.

??? Ravens finished with a better record than the Steelers, won the division over the Steelers, and unlike the Steelers, won a playoff game.

[feltdizz]

A head coach who isn’t afraid to throw the ball early and often and isn’t afraid to let his coordinators do their job. Would also like a HC who can identify weaknesses and swiftly correct them.

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See Mike Vrabel.

Mike Vrabel who had Malik Willis and refused to develop him and now he looks much better in GB when he had to play?

The same Vrabel who looked awful in TN after one successful year?

No thanks. Vrabel is Tomlin with white skin

[Mojouw]

Remember when the criticism was that Tomlin threw too much on offense?

Almost like you adjust your approach based on the talent available to you.

Pretty revolutionary stuff.

[NCSteeler]

Tomlin is a good to great head coach. He needs to let go of the defense and hire independent good coordinators



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