I think this is one of the best ways to find prospects at different positions. Nobody knows yet who the Steelers will re-sign, bring in from FA, or just waive out let walk. All speculation and open.
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I think this is one of the best ways to find prospects at different positions. Nobody knows yet who the Steelers will re-sign, bring in from FA, or just waive out let walk. All speculation and open.
Looks like the picks are:
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All Defense!
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Draft like they did in 1974 but use only 7 rounds to get it done? That's pretty much the goal each and every draft. Just a bit tough to recreate. But I'll try...
... to be continued...
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We are not well positioned in this draft from first glance. Only 1 pick in the top 50 and 3 in the top 100. I would say that unless a player is just THAT player, whichever positions are deepest need to wait until later in the draft. At pick 21 I would love to see the Steelers make a pick for a future win. Take Tyler Warren TE PSU. He replaces Washington who should be much more productive at this point, IMO.
Day 2 has 2 picks: DB position versatile Malachi Moore is a defender that jumped off the screen for me many times this past season. It's the football IQ that really intrigues me.
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I’ll admit it’s early in the process, but I think Warren is super overrated.
He’s not a good blocker in line. He runs mediocre routes. He’s not a super fast separator. He’s an incredible contested catch guy. He’s got an incredible catch radius. But what’s his role in the NFL?
He will have to play off the line, use alignment and motion to get on LBers, and run to “hole in zone”. In a Shanahan or McVay style offense, that should work really well. Kind of a super sized WR role. And may be worth the incredibly high pick Warren will cost.
But line him up next to a tackle and just do regular TE stuff? He’ll never produce enough to justify the draft position.
And while he could improve Washington’s pass game role, he couldn’t do half of what Washington is asked to do as a blocker.
Warren is better viewed as a PF replacement.
Just one random dude’s take. Likely will end up looking foolish. Warren will likely annihilate the pre draft workout process.
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Just because...
Pick 21: Derrick Harmon DT Oregon - 6'5"-310 Versatile DL. BPA
Pick 52: Wyatt Milam OG WVU - 6'6"-315 Bull strong and technically sound will move to OG for NFL.
Pick 83: Jaxson Dart QB Ole Miss - Too much value to pass on in the 3rd. Darts physical ability has been showcased. Hope he can learn the NFL game.
Pick 122: Ricky White WR UNLV - Speedy X receiver runs very good routes to get separation plus is a vertical threat.
Pick 163: Dylan Sampson RB Tennessee - 1500 yards and 22 TDs in 2024.
Pick 225: Glendon Miller Safety Maryland - 6'2"-190 Man cover Safety. NB for the NFL.
Pick 238: Demonte Capehart DT Clemson - 6'4"-320 run stuffer. Not much in pass rush, 2 gap run defender.
Pick 247: Will Sheppard WR Colorado - 6'3"-200 with above average athleticism. Quality depth in the WR room and ST.
LOL!!!! Always fun for me to see how much these change over time.
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The far too early draft, done before the combine and the rankings of these players is way off in many cases.
I would take this one right now with some trade downs for extra picks. Crazy!
29: R1 P29 WR Tre Harris - Mississippi
61: R2 P29 S Nick Emmanwori - South Carolina
72: R3 P8 RB Kaleb Johnson - Iowa
90: R3 P26 S Xavier Watts - Notre Dame
97: R3 P33 QB Jaxson Dart - Ole Miss
102: R4 P1 CB Dorian Strong - Virginia Tech
126: R4 P25 DL Darius Alexander - Toledo
138: R5 P1 LB Smael Mondon JR. - Georgia
161: R5 P24 G Luke Kandra - Cincinnati
194: R6 P19 DL Joshua Farmer - Florida State
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Originally Posted by pczach
Very true. If we re-sign Fields I would not expect to draft a QB this draft. If we re-sign Russ, I do expect to draft a QB. All that depends on the re-sign contract and how the money is paid out as well.
I'm also not sure if I wouldn't rather trade draft picks for established players to complete our secondary, DL, RB rooms. Some or all. I'm talking about Minkah level trades though.
I'm not ruling out an OLB early depending on how the board falls as well.
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Rd1: Nick Emmanwori Safety
Rd2: Isaiah Bond WR
Rd3: Omar Norman-Lott DT
Rd4: Ollie Gordon II RB
Rd5: Upton Stout CB
Rd7: Tyler Batty OLB
Rd7: Carson Vinson OT
RD7: Ja'Quindon Jackson RB/QB
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If you notice, I drafted two of the best safeties in the draft. I think there is a possibility that Minkah Fitzpatrick could be traded or released. The money they could save releasing Minkah and signing Fields for a very reasonable number allows them to trade back like I have for more draft picks, but still have cap space to target and sign a few established veteran players to the roster.
I drafted 2 safeties and two defensive linemen. DL is a big need IMO. Move on from Ogunjobi on the DL, maybe Minkah, and there will be a significant amount of cap space.
Also don't forget they are getting back 4 players from last years draft that barely played or didn't play at all because of injury:
First round pick OL Fautanu
Third round pick WR Wilson
Sixth round pick DE Logan Lee
Sixth round pick DB Ryan Watts
That's a big influx of talent added to the roster.
I like the idea of the DL from Toledo.
I’d love to see them add the safety from Notre Dame and retain both Elliott and Minkah. Maybe actually play three safeties that don’t stink.
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Nick Emmanwori is my current favorite for us to take at 21. Minkah just turned 28 at Thanksgiving. I don't believe he's done just yet. Elliott played very well. I actually like this tandem but the depth behind them is a question at best. And, I think if he's still there, Emmanwori will be BPA.
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I typically do not make trades but this one offered a trade I couldn't pass on, so here it goes.
1st-21: Kelvin Banks Jr LT Texas: Dan Moore expected to be gone, BroJo unknown, Fautanu unknown, I took a blue chip LT to make sure we are covered at that position. Let the rest fight it out for RT duty unless they can beat out the rookie.
2nd-64: Alfred Collins DT Texas: Traded back from 52 and for pick 64 and 96. Double dipped with the Longhorns here and got a 6'6"-320LB DT with 35" arms. He is already known as a disrupter of offenses. With experience he could become a dominant force on this defense.
3rd-83: Jayden Higgins WR Iowa State: A 6'4" XWR with what scouts are calling exceptional catch radius, short area quickness, and route running.
4th-96: Cobee Bryant CB Kansas: Ballhawk CB as well as physical run defender. Just smells like a Steelers pick.
5th-122: Ollie Gordon II RB OKState: 6'2"-225 is about as Steelers target size RB as you can be. Tough to bring down and was also used often in the pass game.
6th-163: Ty Robinson DT Nebraska: A late round double dip at DT with lots of upside and motor. 6'5"-295LBs.
7th-225: Trevor Etienne RB Georgia: A small RB that will find it tough to break tackles at the NFL level. But when I read his scout reports the words that I keep seeing are, dynamic, explosive, vision, acceleration, agility, and burst. Excellent balance and pad level. Just fancy ways of saying 'suddenness and glide'. And apparently, Etienne has it in spades.
8th-238: Kurtis Rourke QB Indiana: 6'5"-225, pocket QB. 2024 stats - 70.4%comp, 27TDs vs 4Ints, 181.4 QBR. Why not?
Yes, I understand how early and pointless this is. But I just 'nerd-out' over the NFL draft. So get used to it.
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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I agree. Alexander is most likely going to go up on everyone's boards when they take a better look at him. He is a very impressive player with real physical talent and athleticism. His level of competition is always something that needs to be considered, but he looks like he belongs.
I also really like Watts from ND. As you can see I picked him in my mock draft above. The kid really has a nose for things on the field.
Think Priest Holmes
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Both guys kinda seem like classic Steelers draft picks.
Alexander reminds me of Hargrave. Not in play style but in draft perspective. Lots of DTs from bigger profile programs but wait it out and take the dude who can just flat out play. Hargrave ended up being the best DT from that class or nearly so. Hopefully history repeats itself.
I see a lot of folks saying but where does Watts play in the pros? Is he a nickel or a safety or what? The last two guys who came out like that were Minkah and Hamilton. Not saying Watts is on that level. But I’m learning that for dudes with his instincts; draft them and just turn them loose.
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I see Watts as a classic safety with the versatility to do everything you need or want him to do.
Alexander does have that Hargrave feel because of where he plays. Hargrave was my draft crush early in the process. Eventually, he was flying up everyone's draft boards. It's always fun to identify someone with limited exposure at a small program before the masses catch on based on what they hear others say.
As you say....just draft dudes that can play and figure it out. Worry less about perfect scheme fit and just draft great players. Adjust the scheme to fit the talent.
I think far too often people in the NFL get in their own way. The Steelers out-thought themselves for several years at the center position. We are all telling each other how great the center prospects were, as the Steelers tried to be the smartest people in the room over-drafting a guy like Green and let several pro bowl level centers slip right through their fingers. On draft day, we
're all looking around like....what the hell just happened as they passed up a slam-dunk player at a position of need.
Yeah. I like that Khan has been freed up from trying to get an instant contender around an aging HOF QB. That made those last couple of drafts under Colbert rough. They passed up really good players in order to make sure they got a player at a "need". And I know C was a need...but they figured that TE and RB and whatever were more of a need for a where they wanted to try and go.
Khan seems to be steadily building from the inside out...one of these days it should kind of just pop into place and the Steelers should start manhandling teams.
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They did draft some 'lunch pail' type guys the last 2 drafts. I like what I've seen from Omar Khan so far.
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21. Benjamin Morrison CB ND
52. Kaleb Johnson RB Iowa
83. Alfred Collins DT Texas
122. Darius Alexander DT Toledo
163. Teddye Buchanon LB Cal
225. Trevor Etienne RB Georgia
238. Caden Prieskorn TE Ole Miss
263. Glendon Miller FS Maryland
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No trades mock
21. Nick Emmanwori Safety SC
52. Quinshon Judkins RB OSU
83. Shemar Turner DT Texas A&M
122. Quincy Riley CB Louisville
163. Seth McLaughlin IOL OSU
225. Ja'Corey Brooks WR Louisville
238. Nazir Stackhouse NT Georgia
247. Ahmed Hassanein OLB Boise St
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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Draft for any team other than the Steelers on PFN. Then look at the full draft. They draft the dumbest picks for the Steelers. I picked the Titans with the first pick, the Steelers drafted 5WRs by their algorithm.
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I'm always trading and trying to manipulate the draft as much as possible.
27: R1 P27 QB Jaxson Dart - Mississippi
52: R2 P20 S Nick Emmanwori - South Carolina
59: R2 P27 G Jonah Savaiinaea - Arizona
76: R3 P12 DL Alfred Collins - Texas
129: R4 P27 CB Quincy Riley - Louisville
139: R5 P1 DL Darius Alexander - Toledo
162: R5 P24 RB Raheim Sanders - South Carolina
217: R7 P1 WR Keandre Lambert-Smith - Auburn
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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So how are those mock drafts that include receivers near the top coming? It could still happen, of course. But really, even though we still have holes,, the postions we will select near the top are pretty narrow I would think.
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Currently no 2nd round pick.
First round is still BPA. I do not believe that will be a WR, QB, RB, or TE and I doubt it will be OL.
That narrows it down pretty much to DL or DB.
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