Steelers Free Agency Thread

[Dwinsgames]

Steelers sign Juan thornhill ..liked this kid a lot when he was coming into the league , kinda lost track of him a little bit but he was a gamer

[Mojouw]

He's an upgrade over Lowdermilk, so as a depth signing it makes the front 7 better IMO.

Loud Milk is coming back too. So we got that going for us.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Loud Milk is coming back too. So we got that going for us.

He played soft last season. It seemed like whenever he was in the game, the opposition just put him on skates in the run game and ran to that bubble. He has been disappointing.

[Mojouw]

He played soft last season. It seemed like whenever he was in the game, the opposition just put him on skates in the run game and ran to that bubble. He has been disappointing.

Indeed. I don’t know if his problem is play strength or leverage/technique but I agree that he seemed to go backwards or to the ground a great deal.

[oneforthetoe]

Loud Milk is coming back too. So we got that going for us.

Don't think it is a guarantee that Loudermilk makes the team.

The given and pretty much given: Cam, Benton, Daniel Ekuale, Adams

That leaves 4 or 5 positions. I would think they will be hard pressed to cut Logan Lee given that he didn't even get a chance last year. Add a draft pick (maybe two) and it would only take one impressive camp showing by somebody to take Loudermilk's place.

Of course, the Steeler's coaching staff does seem to see something in him that doesn't seem to show up watching games.

Could also depend on what they do with Benton. If they draft a NT and move Benton to end then that narrows the opportunity for Loudermilk. If that does happen them maybe they start Adams at NT, use a rookie at back-up nT, then Benton and Cam start at ends with Ekuale and Loudermilk (or a replacement) as back up ends .

[tube517]

Is Ekuale is another run stopper like Braden Fehoko? Is he better than Fehoko or just a token big ass Samoan?

Dude will probably be on practice squad all year. They need to double dip in this draft for DL

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[pczach]

Is Ekuale is another run stopper like Braden Fehoko? Is he better than Fehoko or just a token big ass Samoan?

Dude will probably be on practice squad all year. They need to double dip in this draft for DL

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I agree. Next to quarterback, DL is the position most in need of help. I would take two defensive linemen this draft.

Hitting on a big-time defensive lineman could transform this defense. Hitting on two and having rotational depth would definitely transform this defense. Domination at the LOS is where it's at.

[Born2Steel]

Any concern with the OL still? Losing Daniels and Moore, Herbig just signed with the Commanders. BroJo has not looked like 1st round talent. We haven't seen Fautanu in the NFL yet. I think we are good at Center with Frazier and McCullom, plus Anderson can play emergency OC. OTs are still a very weak spot. OG has very little depth. I'm still concerned.

[Dwinsgames]

Any concern with the OL still? Losing Daniels and Moore, Herbig just signed with the Commanders. BroJo has not looked like 1st round talent. We haven't seen Fautanu in the NFL yet. I think we are good at Center with Frazier and McCullom, plus Anderson can play emergency OC. OTs are still a very weak spot. OG has very little depth. I'm still concerned.

sure there is concern ....

we have a 3rd year player just now assuming his spot on the left side and a 2nd year guy with literally 1 game played as the starter on the right and zero known quality behind them and the interior while much more known is still thin as newspaper at guard ....

an argument could be made that 2 O-Lineman are needed in this draft , but when you should be drafting 2 D-Lineman and need a RB,S,CB,WR and QB ...that takes 9 picks and only the first 4 would be considered as having a solid shot at making the team and odds decrease dramatically every round past that .... this team is proving to have more holes that swiss cheese

[Born2Steel]

sure there is concern ....

we have a 3rd year player just now assuming his spot on the left side and a 2nd year guy with literally 1 game played as the starter on the right and zero known quality behind them and the interior while much more known is still thin as newspaper at guard ....

an argument could be made that 2 O-Lineman are needed in this draft , but when you should be drafting 2 D-Lineman and need a RB,S,CB,WR and QB ...that takes 9 picks and only the first 4 would be considered as having a solid shot at making the team and odds decrease dramatically every round past that .... this team is proving to have more holes that swiss cheese

I'm of the opinion to draft another OT, draft a DL, draft a RB, unless somebody you can't say no to falls stay with this CB room, and draft a Safety. I'm seeing 4 'needs' and 6 draft picks. We should add QB to the need to draft list but if we bring in ARod what's the point.

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Btw.... saw on the home page the Vikings have officially backed out of the ARod sweepstakes. For what that's worth.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Any concern with the OL still? Losing Daniels and Moore, Herbig just signed with the Commanders. BroJo has not looked like 1st round talent. We haven't seen Fautanu in the NFL yet. I think we are good at Center with Frazier and McCullom, plus Anderson can play emergency OC. OTs are still a very weak spot. OG has very little depth. I'm still concerned.

The interior O line is fine, with Seumalo, Frazier, McCormick as the starters. There will need to be some depth and planning as Seumalo is in the final year of his contract.

At OT, I think they are fine with Fautanu and Jones, but will need depth whether its draft or FA veteran. I dont know if Jones will improve or if he is destined to be a RT that still reverts to playing too high, getting his hands outside the defender too often or pulls the wrong way at times. Fautanu is technically years ahead of Jones and should play LT. The injury doesnt really concern me as it has a very high success rate of players returning. DeCastro had the same injury early in his career.

D Line is of bigger need, as is RB and another young CB. IMO

[Born2Steel]

The interior O line is fine, with Seumalo, Frazier, McCormick as the starters. There will need to be some depth and planning as Seumalo is in the final year of his contract.

At OT, I think they are fine with Fautanu and Jones, but will need depth whether its draft or FA veteran. I dont know if Jones will improve or if he is destined to be a RT that still reverts to playing too high, getting his hands outside the defender too often or pulls the wrong way at times. Fautanu is technically years ahead of Jones and should play LT. The injury doesnt really concern me as it has a very high success rate of players returning. DeCastro had the same injury early in his career.

D Line is of bigger need, as is RB and another young CB. IMO

DL is a need. I just don't know if it's bigger than OL. If you list out the roster spots, I feel better about DL now than I do about OL. Both are needs. I think you can get a really good OG and a good OT in this draft, and still get a very good DL prospect as well.

RB is not what's missing, IMO, although we do need our workhorse RB.

[BlackAndGold]

Steelers sign defensive tackle Esezi Otomewo to a 1 year deal.

[BlackAndGold]

OLB, Jeremiah Moon is back on a 1 year deal.

[Born2Steel]

The Steelers not going after a higher ranked DL in FA leads me to think they have confidence in Logan Lee. They drafted him last year out of Iowa. He plays DT/NT. Missed last season on IR due to a calf injury. When we were discussing him after he was drafted, one of the things that jumped out was his quickness of the snap and his ability to get up field and into the back field.

[oneforthetoe]

The Steelers not going after a higher ranked DL in FA leads me to think they have confidence in Logan Lee. They drafted him last year out of Iowa. He plays DT/NT. Missed last season on IR due to a calf injury. When we were discussing him after he was drafted, one of the things that jumped out was his quickness of the snap and his ability to get up field and into the back field.

I think that is probably true, but I still hope we draft DL (preferably inside) high in the draft. If not the first round then maybe trading back into the second.

[Mojouw]

Traditionally, the Steelers haven't drafted DT/NT in the first two rounds - with the BIG exception of Casey Hampton.

If they move Benton out to DE to take Ogunjob's spot, that leaves Adams, that Samoan dude they sign to the PS every few months, and a round 3 or 4 draft pick on the inside.

Leaving Loudermilk, Leal, and Lee trying to stick outside.

[Born2Steel]

Traditionally, the Steelers haven't drafted DT/NT in the first two rounds - with the BIG exception of Casey Hampton.

If they move Benton out to DE to take Ogunjob's spot, that leaves Adams, that Samoan dude they sign to the PS every few months, and a round 3 or 4 draft pick on the inside.

Leaving Loudermilk, Leal, and Lee trying to stick outside.

Benton and Lee are both 3T NT/DT by experience. I'm thinking they are the new Tuitt/Heyward. If we are going to do something different on the DL, I do believe it will happen early in this draft. The FAs were added this year I am not familiar with at all. So one of them may have some actual value???

[oneforthetoe]

Traditionally, the Steelers haven't drafted DT/NT in the first two rounds - with the BIG exception of Casey Hampton.

If they move Benton out to DE to take Ogunjob's spot, that leaves Adams, that Samoan dude they sign to the PS every few months, and a round 3 or 4 draft pick on the inside.

Leaving Loudermilk, Leal, and Lee trying to stick outside.

You are definitely correct they have not drafted d'linemen high in draft very often. However, Khan has proven in the past to be willing to break tradition (after all he is genetically superior). D line is their biggest need outside of QB. Personally, I'd like to see us go NT early in the draft. I know it is not the 90's or even the early 2000's anymore, where a Casey Hampton type player is the anchor of your defense. That being said, when your biggest rival is averaging 6+ yards a carry on you, it would be nice to have a run stopping wall to counter the onslaught. Of course, against teams that don't have good running games that player wouldn't be as useful. Still football is situational. I'm tired of our run defense falling apart seemingly every year.

[Mojouw]

You are definitely correct they have not drafted d'linemen high in draft very often. However, Khan has proven in the past to be willing to break tradition (after all he is genetically superior). D line is their biggest need outside of QB. Personally, I'd like to see us go NT early in the draft. I know it is not the 90's or even the early 2000's anymore, where a Casey Hampton type player is the anchor of your defense. That being said, when your biggest rival is averaging 6+ yards a carry on you, it would be nice to have a run stopping wall to counter the onslaught. Of course, against teams that don't have good running games that player wouldn't be as useful. Still football is situational. I'm tired of our run defense falling apart seemingly every year.

I don't disagree. I'd like to see them execute your plan.

Solid Star Trek reference BTW.

When Chekov nervously repeats "Botany Bay" and then gets the ear slug...that terrified me back in the day.

[oneforthetoe]

I don't disagree. I'd like to see them execute your plan.

Solid Star Trek reference BTW.

When Chekov nervously repeats "Botany Bay" and then gets the ear slug...that terrified me back in the day.

Thanks

It is a great scene. I hate to reveal too much Star Trek geekiness but there is a bit of a hole plot in that scene. Chekov had not joined the cast of Star Trek when Botany Bay aired so why did Khan recognize him?

Now back to the Steelers and their eternal search for a third franchise QB.

[El Kabong]

Thanks

It is a great scene. I hate to reveal too much Star Trek geekiness but there is a bit of a hole plot in that scene. Chekov had not joined the cast of Star Trek when Botany Bay aired so why did Khan recognize him?

There are those who handwave that Chekov wasn't a member of the bridge crew yet, but he was a member of the crew we just didn't see but Khan did.

[oneforthetoe]

There are those who handwave that Chekov wasn't a member of the bridge crew yet, but he was a member of the crew we just didn't see but Khan did.

That would definitely be the explanation had the Internet existed when "Star Trek the Wrath of Khan" came out.

[oneforthetoe]

Resigned Calvin Anderson. Two years. Just a little depth signing. Always good to have another body that can sorta, kinda, maybe play some left tackle.

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[Born2Steel]

Get the QB. Then get a LT to help protect him.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Get the QB. Then get a LT to help protect him.

They now have Fautanu, Jones and Anderson. Thats a decent amount of OT's right now IMO.

Any suggestions of where to get the QB from and who you see as the next starting QB? The next franchise QB? I am wondering because I just dont see any good options right now at finding that franchise QB in this upcoming draft and there isnt much out there on the Free Agent market.

[Born2Steel]

They now have Fautanu, Jones and Anderson. Thats a decent amount of OT's right now IMO.

Any suggestions of where to get the QB from and who you see as the next starting QB? The next franchise QB? I am wondering because I just dont see any good options right now at finding that franchise QB in this upcoming draft and there isnt much out there on the Free Agent market.

If I could accurately predict the next franchise QB, I would not be punching a clock each morning.

I don't care if we take a QB in the 1st, trade back into the 2nd for one, or wait all the way to the 3rd...I believe you take one from this draft. If he turns into Leaf or Rosen, draft another next year. This waiting on the 'perfect QB' to manifest is not a plan at all. It does not matter to me if we sign ARod for the short term or not. Pick your favorite from this draft and go get him.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

If I could accurately predict the next franchise QB, I would not be punching a clock each morning.

I don't care if we take a QB in the 1st, trade back into the 2nd for one, or wait all the way to the 3rd...I believe you take one from this draft. If he turns into Leaf or Rosen, draft another next year. This waiting on the 'perfect QB' to manifest is not a plan at all. It does not matter to me if we sign ARod for the short term or not. Pick your favorite from this draft and go get him.

That philosophy sounds like throwing darts at a wall and hoping there is a dartboard on it. I will disagree.

By that strategy, guys like Will Grier, Kyle Trask, Desmond Ridder, etc get overdrafted and the Steelers miss drafting another position of importance like CB, DE, WR, RB. If you evaluate a guy like Jackson Dart and he grades out lower than you had Joe Milton graded,, then dont reach for him because you are QB needy and he might be the 3rd best QB in this year draft.

[Born2Steel]

That philosophy sounds like throwing darts at a wall and hoping there is a dartboard on it. I will disagree.

By that strategy, guys like Will Grier, Kyle Trask, Desmond Ridder, etc get overdrafted and the Steelers miss drafting another position of importance like CB, DE, WR, RB. If you evaluate a guy like Jackson Dart and he grades out lower than you had Joe Milton graded,, then dont reach for him because you are QB needy and he might be the 3rd best QB in this year draft.

That philosophy works with every position other than QB. If you do not have a QB, it's not a reach taking your highest rated QB at whichever point you want to take them. KP was a reach because he didn't work out. Had he worked out he would cease to be a reach. If he's simply better than what you have he ceases to be a reach.

[Dwinsgames]

That philosophy sounds like throwing darts at a wall and hoping there is a dartboard on it. I will disagree.

By that strategy, guys like Will Grier, Kyle Trask, Desmond Ridder, etc get overdrafted and the Steelers miss drafting another position of importance like CB, DE, WR, RB. If you evaluate a guy like Jackson Dart and he grades out lower than you had Joe Milton graded,, then dont reach for him because you are QB needy and he might be the 3rd best QB in this year draft.

the thing is Dart was better in a better conference than any QB in this draft (and just 21 years old) he is just not the dynamic athlete , hes a good athlete tho ...

it can be debated all day long but that doesnt change the outcomes that is based on performances and documented statistics