Originally Posted by 86WARD
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Agreed, but goes to show what a real HC can do with a team with less talent against a team with superior talent. Hell look at the Rams, injuries and superstars retiring and still in the playoffs, 49er almost got in with their top players injured all or most of the season and a QB who I honestly think is just average (any other team he would have been benched years ago).
Wait. Folks don't want to sign him to a 5 year extension any longer?
There is no helping Tomlin fans *smh*
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He truly believes it. Haha.
Hater = Realist
You know it…or maybe you don’t. There’s not much you do know. There’s no helping those with racist thoughts…but that’s an individuals own opinion.
except the simple fact that you have nothing to do with it , me and 86Ward do not even speak on here but both of us have been plenty vocal about Tomlin when it was justified ...I am certain I have called for his head many times and suspect he has too ...Welcome, guys.
Looks like some of the Good Ol' Boys are finally realizing that I actually WAS the "voice of reason".
you give yourself far to much credit for something that has nothing to do with you or your point of view , and you thinking of yourself as the voice of reason sounds like a mental disorder to the rest of us
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
except those making those claims forget that Tomlin had a 1st ballot HoF QB on his roster in all but 3 of his coaching seasons and still hasnt won a playoff game since 2017 (lost 6 consecutive times) 4 of those 6 consecutive losses with a Franchise QB
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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Tomlin also makes the playoffs without a franchise QB.
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No no no. They make the playoffs DESPITE Tomlin…
I know all the numbers. We've been having this discussion for years.
We aren't ever going to agree and that's fine.
I'll root deliriously for this team regardless of what they do.
I'm not seeing many upsets in the playoffs. There's a lot of ball left to play. But Payton? Smoked. Harbaugh? Crushed.
Other than 2017; I've not been too optimistic about the outcomes. And wasn't 2017 the year Shazier got hurt and they ran out of linebackers? I can't remember.
*cough**cough**cough*Chuck Noll?
Tomlin has a "No Trade" clause in his contract, so it's either they fire him or he resigns, and these guys talk about it:
“They say you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone. So I got rid of everything to see what I had.” ~ Steven Wright
Tomlins staying per Dulac. But changes on the staff likely. I dont know what difference its going to make unless Tomlin lets these new coordinators/assistants do their job and maybe Khan’s team has a major hand in who is brought in. Otherwise its another 10-7 or 9-8 season coming up.
Austin and his staff have to go. A new WR coach ,who ever that is. But our WR are under achieveling . Never open terrible routes
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A better marriage between Smith and the offensive line approach couldn't hurt anything.
They might make Austin fall onnthe grenade.
That changes everything I wanted to do.
There were mumblings during the game that Smith may have head coaching options at the NFL or College level…
I'm not a huge fan of Smith. I couldn't care less if he stays or goes.
Could be looking at a whole revamped coaching staff…or they lose key parts and keep junk because he needs to feel comfortable with his staff.
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They were talking before the Eagles/Packers game how the Eagles lost 6 of 7 to finish last season. They hired new OC and DC.
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It may not matter if Tomlin demands a DC that runs his preferred defensive schemes. We all hear about Tomlin's fingerprints all over the defensive side of the ball. That's his baby, and they have been underperforming with all the salary cap money being on that side of the ball.
I think a new offensive line coach is a no-brainer at this point. There are just too many mistakes and odd technique by that position group.
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Frankly, I wasn't thrilled with the hire but I reserved crushing him until we got to see what he can do. I still don't think we got to see everything his offense is capable of with the QB situation, but I really want to see the team finally embrace an innovative and creative offense like those dominating the NFL right now.
I still believe that it is time defensively to use more creative looks using confusion at the LOS and post snap changes that force bad plays and turnovers. The defense has also gotten more easily diagnosed.
It really is time for a complete upgrade IMO. They are a team trying to compete with a Windows 7 operating system.
More like Windows 95SE
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For the defense, they're in too deep to not run a 3-4. At least until Watt retires.
I'm not smart enough to know if the Steelers playing the most single high by a wide margin in a two high safety dominated league means anything or not. I.just know it is true.
I applaud their commitment to get home with a 4 man pass rush. It is the dream of every defense ever. But I think they're too certain of it. They trust Highsmith and Watt to win more than any pair since Woodley and Harrison. As a result, it seems the creative stunts and stuff they used the do to help free up less developed pass rushers (say Bud Dupree) has seemingly vanished. They used to force the RB to pick a gap in pass protection with a pressure look and then blitz the other gap. I feel like I haven't seen that in years. They don't mix and match anymore. I'm not a fan of DL in coverage but sometimes you gotta take a risk.
On offense, I made my concerns about Smith and how he runs an offense known. I won't bore everyone with it again.
I do think they need to be less concerned with doing the "right thing" and focused on getting things done on offense. What I mean is that the Steelers seem to say "Well our best WR is covered and that's a risky throw, so we're going the go over here". That worked when they were loaded. They're not. If they don't force the ball to their few playmakers, they're kinda sunk.
For the OL, I get more confused the more I think about it. They've developed some unheralded guys and thrown inexperienced players in with some success. So someone must have some idea of what they're doing. But overall that's a line with a lot of high picks and pricey FAs still looking to come together. For me, I'm no supporter of Meyers but, other than Brod Jones, who's the big underperforming guy? The 4th round LT? I mean he's a starting NFL LT you drafted in the middle rounds. That's low key impressive. At the same time, they just seem like a group that should be achieving more.
Can they do these things with the same coaches? Different coaches? Again, I got no idea. But I'll be here pretending I do while we find out.
So you are saying you are a racist? That's not surprising.
I have been right about Tomlin. Sorry, your beloved Tomlin is a horrible HC.
Hater = Realist
Wow. Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid.
Art is becoming the next Bob Nutting.
I'm the guy who's been bashed for "hating" Tomlin since I got here. Now that I've been proven right, the guys who have been bashing me are suddenly saying "Oh, we knew it all the time".
See DWG, the guy you claim has joined you in "calling for Tomlin's head" is STILL ridiculing the people who criticized Tomlin.
Some days it's just too easy.
I think we all know who has those tendencies. Lol. It’s actually quite obvious.
Tomlin is Hall of Fame. Sorry you can’t change that with your whining, crying and racist rants.
But you keep doing you. Bash Tomlin and then crawl back under a rock somewhere. Rinse and repeat.
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