Did the Steelers Screw Up with Kenny Pickett?

[Mojouw]

If anyone wonders why long-time members leave this board, or why there are almost no new people regularly posting here (except me), all you have to do is read the above post.

Stand by everything I said.

I didn't start the thread. I didn't even offer an opinion on the topic.

I gave undirected snark about people being easily offended on the internet.

It's the internet. Kind of the definition of how it works.

But I'll continue to wield my immense and staggering power to direct the actions of grown adults with terrifying cruelty and breathtaking depravity until the world burns around me.

Behold, I am the destroyer of message boards. Tremble before me you fragile creatures.

[Hawkman]

If anyone wonders why long-time members leave this board, or why there are almost no new people regularly posting here (except me), all you have to do is read the above post.

That’s rich!

[El Kabong]

Stand by everything I said.

I didn't start the thread. I didn't even offer an opinion on the topic.

I gave undirected snark about people being easily offended on the internet.

It's the internet. Kind of the definition of how it works.

But I'll continue to wield my immense and staggering power to direct the actions of grown adults with terrifying cruelty and breathtaking depravity until the world burns around me.

Behold, I am the destroyer of message boards. Tremble before me you fragile creatures.

[Voice of Reason]

Stand by everything I said.

I didn't start the thread. I didn't even offer an opinion on the topic.

No, all you did was lecture the author of this thread about what he should and should not post, insult him because he didn't obey your orders, and then insult him again for getting angry when you insulted him in the first place. Because, you see, you're one of the Good Ol' Boys who run this board, and when the rest of us lowly regular board members don't do what you tell us to do we deserve to be insulted, and whenever a Good Ol' Boy like you does insult a lowly regular board member, that lowly regular board member that you insulted is supposed to just sit there and take it.

But the problem here goes deeper than you. On a well-run message board, whenever someone like you tries to pull the crap you just pulled on hawaiiansteeler, an administrator or mod pulls your post and gives you a warning that your personal attack on a fellow board member has violated board policy and that if you ever try something like this again your sorry ass will be booted off the board. Here however, whoever the hell is running this board sits back and does nothing and allows this kind of shit to go on, so guys like you can just go on doing what you're doing and laugh at the rest of us because no one here is going to do a damn thing to you to hold you to account.

It's like with the Steelers, the real problem isn't Tomlin, it's Rooney for allowing the Tomlin situation to go on, and as a result the Steelers continue to decline. Here, the person running this board, through incompetence or neglect, allows this situation to go on too, and the quality of the discussions here similarly declines too.

[Mojouw]

Ok.

It was a crappy thread. And the OP got some crap for it.

Then I made fun of everyone for whining.

Then the OP cam back from his self imposed exile and pretended to be confused as to why this thread caught strays. .

When grown ups act like children, I'm gonna point and laugh every time.

Not worried about it. At all.

[Born2Steel]

Ok.

It was a crappy thread. And the OP got some crap for it.

Then I made fun of everyone for whining.

Then the OP cam back from his self imposed exile and pretended to be confused as to why this thread caught strays. .

When grown ups act like children, I'm gonna point and laugh every time.

Not worried about it. At all.

I know you are but what am I?

Separate thought:
I think there is some confusion as to what exactly debating opinions is. When you debate opinions, no matter the age of people debating, there will be name calling.(typically some version of Hitler/Nazi) There will also be others that agree/disagree with the opinions being debated and they will chime in with their opinions as well. When a debate consists of several people and one opinion stands alone against the crowd, there is sometimes a feeling of being ganged up on by the lone opinion who is being 'shouted down'. That is going to happen from time to time. I honestly feel like this forum has gone past those parameters to outright verbal warfare though. It is becoming less and less pleasant here because of the constant infighting. It seems this board is down to it's last dozen posters or so. I'm of the opinion we need to have ourselves a players only meeting and get everyone back on the same page.

[Mojouw]

I know you are but what am I?

Separate thought:
I think there is some confusion as to what exactly debating opinions is. When you debate opinions, no matter the age of people debating, there will be name calling.(typically some version of Hitler/Nazi) There will also be others that agree/disagree with the opinions being debated and they will chime in with their opinions as well. When a debate consists of several people and one opinion stands alone against the crowd, there is sometimes a feeling of being ganged up on by the lone opinion who is being 'shouted down'. That is going to happen from time to time. I honestly feel like this forum has gone past those parameters to outright verbal warfare though. It is becoming less and less pleasant here because of the constant infighting. It seems this board is down to it's last dozen posters or so. I'm of the opinion we need to have ourselves a players only meeting and get everyone back on the same page.

I can agree with that.

People just take themselves too seriously.

This is an internet message board. It's by definition not something to take seriously.

My intial comment intentionally didn't quote anyone or mention names. It was meant as a broadcast call for folks to not take a nonsense message board so seriously.

Instead it's now all this because of reasons I fail to understand.

I guess if everyone needs me to own it - then fine.

I apologize to anyone and everyone for any and all hurt feelings. I’ll attempt to not repeat my mistakes.

And, again, I’ll restate this - I do not care what or why anyone posts. Each of you do you! If I ever post anything it is an attempt to spark a conversation. Or, at worst, make you smile. Not shovel shit into one person or the other.

If I ever want to tell any specific person a specific thing; you will know it. I’m an adult. I’ll just tell you directly.

[Born2Steel]

I can agree with that.

People just take themselves too seriously.

This is an internet message board. It's by definition not something to take seriously.

My intial comment intentionally didn't quote anyone or mention names. It was meant as a broadcast call for folks to not take a nonsense message board so seriously.

Instead it's now all this because of reasons I fail to understand.

I guess if everyone needs me to own it - then fine.

I apologize to anyone and everyone for any and all hurt feelings. I’ll attempt to not repeat my mistakes.

And, again, I’ll restate this - I do not care what or why anyone posts. Each of you do you! If I ever post anything it is an attempt to spark a conversation. Or, at worst, make you smile. Not shovel shit into one person or the other.

If I ever want to tell any specific person a specific thing; you will know it. I’m an adult. I’ll just tell you directly.

And...I was not directing my last post at you. That's why I put separate thought before it. It was just a general post for all. I feel like there is a higher than normal level of hostility among some of the posters on here and it's bleeding into every conversation. More than just your regular helping of ball busting and snark.

[Mojouw]

And...I was not directing my last post at you. That's why I put separate thought before it. It was just a general post for all. I feel like there is a higher than normal level of hostility among some of the posters on here and it's bleeding into every conversation. More than just your regular helping of ball busting and snark.

For sure. Didn’t think you were.

I was just trying to get it out there.

If people want or need it, I’m happy to offer it.

[Voice of Reason]

I am encouraged by the recent comments of Born2Steel and Mojouw. Based on what you've said, I think you guys (especially Mojouw) got caught up in your arguments and inadvertently crossed a line with hawaiiansteeler without realizing it, but now you do. If you actually follow through and live up to what you've said here in the future, this will go a long way toward solving the problem.

One final suggestion to Mojouw. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you reach out to hawaiiansteeler and make an attempt to patch things up with him via private message.

[Born2Steel]

I am encouraged by the recent comments of Born2Steel and Mojouw. Based on what you've said, I think you guys (especially Mojouw) got caught up in your arguments and inadvertently crossed a line with hawaiiansteeler without realizing it, but now you do. If you actually follow through and live up to what you've said here in the future, this will go a long way toward solving the problem.

One final suggestion to Mojouw. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you reach out to hawaiiansteeler and make an attempt to patch things up with him via private message.

A suggestion for you as well. When you post an opinion, and several others disagree, you are not being shouted down. It's not some gang mentality keeping you from posting what you want.

I have had other posters on here get angry with me for pointing out their comments are in the wrong thread. That is because I feel like when in a thread discussing drafting players, it should remain about drafting players. When the 'political', and/or 'fire coaches' conversation takes over that thread, for me it ruins the discussion because now we're just arguing a different thread topic. I'm not shouting down other's opinions. Keep the thread topic the topic of conversation within the thread. That is what I'm saying in simplest form.

So, back to Kenny Pickett....2025 is his last season under his current contract. Roughly $2M. He turns 27 this year. Tanner McKee is signed through the 2026 season, roughly $1M. He will turn 25 this year. The Eagles also have Ian Book on roster.

I spell this out because I think it will be interesting to watch if the Eagles extend KP this offseason, meaning they really do see something there for the future, or wait until his contract expires and then re-sign him on a backup contract/let him walk in FA. Honestly, the timing of this latest injury was terrible at best. It opened the door for a younger, cheaper McKee to showcase himself in live football. It could easily come down to, not do they consider KP better, but how much better. It's the backup role after all. Hurts is guaranteed $42M for 2025, and $20M for 2026.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Showed today how much the Eagles have faith in Pickett and when Hurts got hurt they did not even throw him in for a play. For another discussion but I think Hurts is a garbage QB.

[Voice of Reason]

A suggestion for you as well. When you post an opinion, and several others disagree, you are not being shouted down. It's not some gang mentality keeping you from posting what you want.

It's not that people disagree with my opinion that I object to. You guys can disagree with me all you want. It's how certain people here tend to get together to attack, insult, and ridicule the people they disagree with instead of keeping the discussion on whatever topic we're talking about. IMO, that is what is making a lot of people here hesitant about posting a dissenting opinion on the board.

[feltdizz]

This site might go dark if Hurts gets injured and Kenny leads them to a conference championship win.

lmao

[EzraTank]

His hands are way too small to win a conference championship.

[Born2Steel]

This site might go dark if Hurts gets injured and Kenny leads them to a conference championship win.

lmao

Either way, it will be Saquon leading them however far they go.

[feltdizz]

Either way, it will be Saquon leading them however far they go.

Your QB looks better and performs better when the defense plays well and the OC and OL are legit.

[steelcityboyz]

It's not that people disagree with my opinion that I object to. You guys can disagree with me all you want. It's how certain people here tend to get together to attack, insult, and ridicule the people they disagree with instead of keeping the discussion on whatever topic we're talking about. IMO, that is what is making a lot of people here hesitant about posting a dissenting opinion on the board.

Yep, alot of second grade bullshit here.

[feltdizz]

well, Kenny is headed to a SB and is probably receiving much better coaching in Philly when it comes to playing the QB position.

we are trapped in limbo.

[Edman]

well, Kenny is headed to a SB and is probably receiving much better coaching in Philly when it comes to playing the QB position.

we are trapped in limbo.

If bridges weren't burned Kenny can take his improved experience and come back as a veteran option.

[Steeler-in-west]

If bridges weren't burned Kenny can take his improved experience and come back as a veteran option.

this is probably one of the last places he’d consider. It’ll be interesting to see where he ends up. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he goes somewhere where he has the chance to compete for a starting iob.

[Voice of Reason]

well, Kenny is headed to a SB and is probably receiving much better coaching in Philly when it comes to playing the QB position

But, but... I was told that Kenny was stupid for wanting to go to Philadelphia rather than staying in Pittsburgh and sitting on the bench and "learning" from Russell Wilson.

[feltdizz]

But, but... I was told that Kenny was stupid for wanting to go to Philadelphia rather than staying in Pittsburgh and sitting on the bench and "learning" from Russell Wilson.

yeah, Kenny got to play and played well. Unfortunately dude is a bit fragile and gave another QB a chance to shine but word is he gutted things out with a broken rib so I’m sure the players respect it.

I know fans were mad at Kenny for demanding a trade but its what any QB with a good agent would do in that situation. Once you tell me you lost faith and bring a starter in, I’m out.

and lets be real, this Steeler staff is awful on offense and has no idea wtf they are doing.

[steelcityboyz]

If bridges weren't burned Kenny can take his improved experience and come back as a veteran option.

Ain't no way KP is coming here and to be honest i don't blame him one bit. I hope he get's a ring.

[Born2Steel]

I don't know why KP would never want to come back to the Steelers. He was the one that asked to be traded. He could be better at running Arthur Smith's offense than Fields. Maybe not, but it's possible.

[Dwinsgames]

[El Kabong]

And I'm not sure why so many are pining away for Kenny and wanting him back.

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But, but... I was told that Kenny was stupid for wanting to go to Philadelphia rather than staying in Pittsburgh and sitting on the bench and "learning" from Russell Wilson.

Because after Wilson is let go this offseason, Kenny could then be the starter again. Is he the starter in Philly? No he is not. Is he likely to ever be the starter in Philly? No, he is not.

[Edman]

And I'm not sure why so many are pining away for Kenny and wanting him back.

The only way for the Steelers to not regret trading Kenny was if the Russell Wilson experiment delivered results. Instead we got the worst possible outcome. Not only did the Steelers not progress after trading Kenny, they stayed right where they were before. That's why it stings.

[Steeler-in-west]

The only way for the Steelers to not regret trading Kenny was if the Russell Wilson experiment delivered results. Instead we got the worst possible outcome. Not only did the Steelers not progress after trading Kenny, they stayed right where they were before. That's why it stings.

actually we didnt stay right were we are cause we lost a year of TJ’s, Cam’s and Minkah’s prime (if you can call it that). Jettisoning KP for a roll of the dice with Wilson was always a gamble. If they got just one playoff win they couldve called it a success. Now, specially the way they went down the tubes down the stretch Just looks like a poorly conceived plan. Now there are questions all over the place except O Line and ILB’s. And the coaches look worse than ever.

[Voice of Reason]

I know fans were mad at Kenny for demanding a trade but its what any QB with a good agent would do in that situation. Once you tell me you lost faith and bring a starter in, I’m out.

and lets be real, this Steeler staff is awful on offense and has no idea wtf they are doing.

Absolute truth.

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I don't know why KP would never want to come back to the Steelers.

Two words. The first one begins with "M", and the second one begins with "T".