Did the Steelers Screw Up with Kenny Pickett?

[DesertSteel]

Are some of you actually doubting the intent of hawaiiansteeler? Most of you here know what he is all about and he has been a solid contributor and poster for years and years at multiple message boards.

Hawaiian is a great poster. One bad thread doesn't make it not so.

[Hawkman]

Are some of you actually doubting the intent of hawaiiansteeler? Most of you here know what he is all about and he has been a solid contributor and poster for years and years at multiple message boards.

I mean really.....What is wrong with many of you here?

So he posts a video on a subject that is about the Steelers possibly making a mistake at the QB position. So what??

It is certainly relevant to the Steelers current situation and it is something that needs to be evaluated to help solve the issue going forward because here's a hint.....it hasn't been solved yet.

There are zero football people that I know of that believed Matt Canada was a good NFL offensive coordinator. ZERO. That in itself shows that Pickett wasn't supported properly or competently while he was here.

It is accepted fact that the entire development of Kenny Pickett was not good and his time in Pittsburgh was mangled by the organization and Tomlin because of Canada and the overall support system around him. Anyone that says differently is wearing the Black and Gold glasses trying to protect the team.

Personally, I have accepted that Pickett is gone and openly root for Wilson and Fields to be great here, but the fact remains that the people that put the structure around Kenny Pickett and kept them there are still with the team. Knowing that there was a big failure with Pickett makes it reasonable to question the decision-makers on what they are doing with the current quarterback position when they are still in place and making those decisions. They don't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt at this point. They need to show that they can create a good offensive environment for quarterbacks to flourish in the current NFL where the ability to score points and quarterback play is at a premium.

I have read posts from someone here claiming that this version of Russell Wilson is better than Ben ever was at any time here without getting challenged from the people here killing Pickett. Don't talk to me about bad threads and people that don't know what they're talking about.

Worst thread of the year because he posts a video about a subject that isn't even arguable? They botched the Pickett pick and how they developed him in every way. Period. Saying otherwise shows how little some of you know and how blind you are to anything that questions the Steelers organization in any way.

I hope that Wilson plays great and we win a super bowl. I hope that Justin Fields is a potential long-term answer. I certainly hope that if neither guy is the answer, that the organization and head coach have learned from what didn't work and make the adjustments to give the team the best chance to succeed. I still think there is a chance it can work, but I am not going to blindly get behind the approach and decisions of the head coach no matter what the results say. I will believe that the offense and the handling and development of quarterbacks is solved when I see it happen on the field.

It is all very much a work in progress and it should be under scrutiny because of the very recent past.

I’m sure this was primarily directed at me. My post was absolutely not an attack on Hawaiian. We joined this board at roughly the same time. I’ve always enjoyed his posts, and his ability to dig up Steelers news. My whole things is, every time a new KP thread is started, it’s polarizing. The same thing has been said by the same people in every thread. There are so many unknowns in regards to KP that will never be known. How much better would his play have been under a different OC? What really went on at the end of last season?Would he have improved as a field general if he had played behind Russ for a season or two…..had he been willing? Were the evaluations of him that far off? What is his longevity, (three concussions in less than two full seasons, in addition to other injuries….with the Steelers)? These are questions that no one here can truly answer. No team in the NFL wants to give up on the equity of a first round draft pick so soon. Every team in the NFL has made mistakes with their first round draft picks. We will never be certain if KP was one of them or not.…..Hawaiian, please don’t think I was attacking you.

[Mojouw]

I didn’t even click through to the video. Why would I? It has all already been said. There’s nothing new to talk about.

The Steelers did some of the things right you do to support a new QB. They got a dominant ball winner at WR. They got some TEs. They attempted to rejuvenate the RB group. And they tried to build out the OL.

They THOUGHT they got an OC proficient in the motion based offenses sweeping both the college and NFL ranks. Pre snap motion and the promised play action should have made a young QBs life easier. Unfortunately, Canada wasn’t detailed and smart enough to understand why those types of plays worked. He seems to have been revealed as a copyist rather than an original designer. When he hit NFL opponents, he couldn’t elevate his offense to compete. Then, shockingly, the team overvalued continuity and gave Canada another go.

The other sin was the nonsense of a “bridge QB”. As I’ve yelled about for years, it’s a waste of time, rarely (if ever) works, and the Steelers were pretty foolish to try it.

The Steelers tried (unfortunately they’re still trying at a few spots) to build the roster to incubate a young QB. They identified one of the styles of offense that has helped young QBs experience success in the NFL. Unfortunately, the coach they chose to lead that effort was a fraud.

They had a great deal of it on the right track. Or at least the right ideas. They just got portions of the execution wrong. Hopefully they learned something because in 1-2 years they will be doing it again.

[feltdizz]

Are some of you actually doubting the intent of hawaiiansteeler? Most of you here know what he is all about and he has been a solid contributor and poster for years and years at multiple message boards.

I mean really.....What is wrong with many of you here?

So he posts a video on a subject that is about the Steelers possibly making a mistake at the QB position. So what??

It is certainly relevant to the Steelers current situation and it is something that needs to be evaluated to help solve the issue going forward because here's a hint.....it hasn't been solved yet.

There are zero football people that I know of that believed Matt Canada was a good NFL offensive coordinator. ZERO. That in itself shows that Pickett wasn't supported properly or competently while he was here.

It is accepted fact that the entire development of Kenny Pickett was not good and his time in Pittsburgh was mangled by the organization and Tomlin because of Canada and the overall support system around him. Anyone that says differently is wearing the Black and Gold glasses trying to protect the team.

Personally, I have accepted that Pickett is gone and openly root for Wilson and Fields to be great here, but the fact remains that the people that put the structure around Kenny Pickett and kept them there are still with the team. Knowing that there was a big failure with Pickett makes it reasonable to question the decision-makers on what they are doing with the current quarterback position when they are still in place and making those decisions. They don't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt at this point. They need to show that they can create a good offensive environment for quarterbacks to flourish in the current NFL where the ability to score points and quarterback play is at a premium.

I have read posts from someone here claiming that this version of Russell Wilson is better than Ben ever was at any time here without getting challenged from the people here killing Pickett. Don't talk to me about bad threads and people that don't know what they're talking about.

Worst thread of the year because he posts a video about a subject that isn't even arguable? They botched the Pickett pick and how they developed him in every way. Period. Saying otherwise shows how little some of you know and how blind you are to anything that questions the Steelers organization in any way.

I hope that Wilson plays great and we win a super bowl. I hope that Justin Fields is a potential long-term answer. I certainly hope that if neither guy is the answer, that the organization and head coach have learned from what didn't work and make the adjustments to give the team the best chance to succeed. I still think there is a chance it can work, but I am not going to blindly get behind the approach and decisions of the head coach no matter what the results say. I will believe that the offense and the handling and development of quarterbacks is solved when I see it happen on the field.

It is all very much a work in progress and it should be under scrutiny because of the very recent past.

Great post. I thought I was in the twilight zone for a second.

and for me, this isn't about getting Tomlin fired. Just questioning if moving on was the right or wrong move.

[pczach]

I didn’t even click through to the video. Why would I? It has all already been said. There’s nothing new to talk about.

The Steelers did some of the things right you do to support a new QB. They got a dominant ball winner at WR. They got some TEs. They attempted to rejuvenate the RB group. And they tried to build out the OL.

They THOUGHT they got an OC proficient in the motion based offenses sweeping both the college and NFL ranks. Pre snap motion and the promised play action should have made a young QBs life easier. Unfortunately, Canada wasn’t detailed and smart enough to understand why those types of plays worked. He seems to have been revealed as a copyist rather than an original designer. When he hit NFL opponents, he couldn’t elevate his offense to compete. Then, shockingly, the team overvalued continuity and gave Canada another go.

The other sin was the nonsense of a “bridge QB”. As I’ve yelled about for years, it’s a waste of time, rarely (if ever) works, and the Steelers were pretty foolish to try it.

The Steelers tried (unfortunately they’re still trying at a few spots) to build the roster to incubate a young QB. They identified one of the styles of offense that has helped young QBs experience success in the NFL. Unfortunately, the coach they chose to lead that effort was a fraud.

They had a great deal of it on the right track. Or at least the right ideas. They just got portions of the execution wrong. Hopefully they learned something because in 1-2 years they will be doing it again.

But this is my point. Sure, we know that the team could have done some stuff better. That doesn't mean that I'm abandoning the team and want to burn everything down and want them to lose. I fully support everyone that is with the team and I always give my opinions on the good with the bad about coaches and players. If you aren't giving fair evaluations of anything Steelers, then it isn't worth talking about and a waste of time.

It is far too often around here that if someone says one thing or makes one post people aren't happy about, they start saying ridiculous things about worst post ever, or start the whole Kenny Pickett lover nonsense, or you're not a real fan crap that has been going around here for the last year. It's insulting and it's stupid to treat people that way. The same people that say Pickett is talked about too much in the Steelers section of the board and cried to mods to have it stricken from the Steelers section of the message board then go out of their way to show up and bash people on the Around the NFL section of the message board in a thread about Kenny Pickett. You can't make this shit up.

You and I have lots of conversations, but I always feel that even when we disagree we are making points on what we believe and are willing to concede points that are just common sense. There is also always respect between us. There isn't a lot of common sense, respect, and tolerance with the KP discussion. None. I think it is obnoxious and offensive at this point that someone isn't even allowed to make a point or post a video on the discussion without being ridiculed by some here. It's immature and if it is making good people like hawaiiansteeler feel like they don't want to be here just for starting a thread, then WTF are we tolerating here from people that should know better?

I know you understand this, but Tomlin and the organization can make mistakes.......and it is possible for them to learn from mistakes and take steps forward and still be supported, while still being fairly evaluated on what they are doing. We can disagree with a decision or move the team makes and still be a fan. It is understandable to watch mistakes by the coaching staff and not always trust that the way they do things are the best way to do things.

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I’m sure this was primarily directed at me. My post was absolutely not an attack on Hawaiian. We joined this board at roughly the same time. I’ve always enjoyed his posts, and his ability to dig up Steelers news. My whole things is, every time a new KP thread is started, it’s polarizing. The same thing has been said by the same people in every thread. There are so many unknowns in regards to KP that will never be known. How much better would his play have been under a different OC? What really went on at the end of last season?Would he have improved as a field general if he had played behind Russ for a season or two…..had he been willing? Were the evaluations of him that far off? What is his longevity, (three concussions in less than two full seasons, in addition to other injuries….with the Steelers)? These are questions that no one here can truly answer. No team in the NFL wants to give up on the equity of a first round draft pick so soon. Every team in the NFL has made mistakes with their first round draft picks. We will never be certain if KP was one of them or not.…..Hawaiian, please don’t think I was attacking you.

No, it was not directed primarily at you. This has been going on with several posters here for a long time.

[Mojouw]

For me - I honestly do not care what opinion folks hold. But I do think this a more interesting and vibrant place when people explain the reasoning and substance behind their opinions.

Too often there’s nothing there.

I never played a down of organized ball. But I’ve watched the NFL for a long time. I’ve been making an effort to read, watch, and listen to everything I can to educate myself about the game. I want to understand why things happen and why league wide trends take shape. I get a TON wrong. Still so much I don’t understand about the game. But I can tell you what my opinion is based on.

I put zero stock in any post that boils down to “because I’m sad/angry/frustrated” or “I’ve set totally arbitrary standards achieved by zero contemporary teams and I’m disappointed that they remain unmet”. It’s a pointless conversation.

And while I agree that anyone can post any darn thing they want whenever they want; I’ve never liked just posting links and dipping. I would actually far more like to hear the folks who post here than the big wide internet. Folks here are usually far more insightful, informed, and knowledgeable.

[cubanstogie]

[QUOTE=Voice of Reason;875738]That's it??? That's the best that you can come up with? The worst thing you can say about Kenny Pickett's recent performance is not about anything HE'S done but about what words I used to describe him?

Pretty telling indeed.
I actually posted he’s record 1-1 with top 3 team in league and his stats and QB rating which put him at 24th place. I also stated he played well in another thread. Not sure what more words you need. He’s done his job as backup, which I think he’s quality backup. Key word there.

[Voice of Reason]

I'm not anti-KP and if he were still here, I would still be a supporter. But he's not. And for whatever the reasons fans want to debate, he is no longer here because HE asked to be traded. Khan did not actively look to trade KP away until he asked to be traded.

I've debunked this several times, but people here conveniently ignore it. In the thread welcoming Fields to Pittsburgh, Fields states that after the Steelers signed Wilson that Fields figured that this ended his chances of going to Pittsburgh, but his agent told him to hold tight because he had heard that the Steelers had plans in the works to trade Pickett too. This was a couple of days before before Pickett asked to be traded. So Pickett was going to be traded whether he had asked to be traded or not.

While I'm at it, a lot of people here have stated that Pickett asked to be traded because he "feared competition". He actually asked to be traded because by this time he knew Tomlin well enough to realize that there wasn't going to BE any competition, that Wilson was going to be anointed as the starter no matter what he or Wilson did in training camp. This is basically what actually happened between Wilson and Fields, although it was delayed a little because of Wilson's injury. Even though Fields was 4-2 and had played well, as soon as Russ was ready to play he was made the starter and Fields was sent to the bench. Kenny was wise to want to get out of this kind of situation.

[Voice of Reason]

as REO Speedwagon once said ....... The Tales grow taller on down the line ....

KP8 was 7-5 in 2023 as a starter PERIOD. not 7out of 11 or as most would say 7-4 but 7-5 according to official statistics

I already addressed this. When Kenny was knocked out of the Cardinals game the score was 3-3 and Kenny had just driven the ball down to the Cardinals one-yard line. No way the loss is on him. I base my claims on what actually happened in the games rather than some misleading ruling by a statistician.

Tall Tales indeed.

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You guys realize that the folks you are arguing about Kenny Pickett with don’t actually care about Kenny Pickett, right?

It is just another way to get at “Fire Mike Tomlin”. And if they can use win loss to seem like evidence; they don’t have to talk about actual football plays or address the core reason they’re never gonna support Tomlin.

You can respond with all the analysis of actual game play, scouting reports, stats breakdowns, or other tangible NFL context and you will NEVER get similar in return.

This isn’t about football. It’s about feelings.

You "read minds" about as well as you evaluate quarterbacks.

[pczach]

I've debunked this several times, but people here conveniently ignore it. In the thread welcoming Fields to Pittsburgh, Fields states that after the Steelers signed Wilson that Fields figured that this ended his chances of going to Pittsburgh, but his agent told him to hold tight because he had heard that the Steelers had plans in the works to trade Pickett too. This was a couple of days before before Pickett asked to be traded. So Pickett was going to be traded whether he had asked to be traded or not.

While I'm at it, a lot of people here have stated that Pickett asked to be traded because he "feared competition". He actually asked to be traded because by this time he knew Tomlin well enough to realize that there wasn't going to BE any competition, that Wilson was going to be anointed as the starter no matter what he or Wilson did in training camp. This is basically what actually happened between Wilson and Fields, although it was delayed a little because of Wilson's injury. Even though Fields was 4-2 and had played well, as soon as Russ was ready to play he was made the starter and Fields was sent to the bench. Kenny was wise to want to get out of this kind of situation.

Here's the article where Fields himself is quoted saying that he thought his dream of going to Pittsburgh was over but his agent told him that a trade was in the works with the Steelers days before Kenny Pickett was actually traded. Many just want to believe what they want to believe.

Fields also stated the Steelers made it clear that Wilson had the pole position when they brought him in.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-justin-fields

[86WARD]

Yeah...Steelers had Kenny, Steelers get Wilson, Kenny requests trade, Steelers don't trade Kenny, Steelers have option to get Fields, Steelers trade Kenny, Steelers get Fields. It's what any team would do to improve their locker room and get rid of a whiner. They aren't going to just trade Kenny away until they have their ducks in a row. lol.

[pczach]

Yeah...Steelers had Kenny, Steelers get Wilson, Kenny requests trade, Steelers don't trade Kenny, Steelers have option to get Fields, Steelers trade Kenny, Steelers get Fields. It's what any team would do to improve their locker room and get rid of a whiner. They aren't going to just trade Kenny away until they have their ducks in a row. lol.

My post was to address the people saying that it never happened that way. Many here say that the only reason they got Fields is because Pickett demanded a trade. The Steelers were interested in Fields for a long time. I'm not blaming them. I'm simply stating the obvious and proving that what many claim is nonsense is actually true.

[Born2Steel]

I've debunked this several times, but people here conveniently ignore it. In the thread welcoming Fields to Pittsburgh, Fields states that after the Steelers signed Wilson that Fields figured that this ended his chances of going to Pittsburgh, but his agent told him to hold tight because he had heard that the Steelers had plans in the works to trade Pickett too. This was a couple of days before before Pickett asked to be traded. So Pickett was going to be traded whether he had asked to be traded or not.

While I'm at it, a lot of people here have stated that Pickett asked to be traded because he "feared competition". He actually asked to be traded because by this time he knew Tomlin well enough to realize that there wasn't going to BE any competition, that Wilson was going to be anointed as the starter no matter what he or Wilson did in training camp. This is basically what actually happened between Wilson and Fields, although it was delayed a little because of Wilson's injury. Even though Fields was 4-2 and had played well, as soon as Russ was ready to play he was made the starter and Fields was sent to the bench. Kenny was wise to want to get out of this kind of situation.

That's not accurate. Fields was told the Steelers were still interested in him, true. But they did not say they were looking to trade KP at that time. Only after KP asked to be traded did they seek trade. We could have had a QB room with Russ, Fields, AND KP.

[86WARD]

We could have had a QB room with Russ, Fields, AND KP.

Which would still be quite affordable and KP might have still gotten playing time…if he was good enough.

[Born2Steel]

Which would still be quite affordable and KP might have still gotten playing time…if he was good enough.

I think with Russ hurt at the beginning there would have been a chance for KP. I'll not try to guess what would have happened, but had he put in the work and learned the offense, I don't see why he would not have had a chance. For those same 6 games I mean. Yes, Russ was here to be the starter. But whatever really....just fantasy.

[feltdizz]

Hawaiian is a great poster. One bad thread doesn't make it not so.

Its not a bad thread. Look at what happened last night. Tomlin is handcuffing QB’s. Wilson had 414 yards vs thr Bengals and last night we refused to throw it until the 4th quarter.

We are terrible at this QB thing and its mostly due to coaching

[Steeler-in-west]

Maybe they did, but the problem goes beyond KP and the Qb position.

[Voice of Reason]

That's not accurate. Fields was told the Steelers were still interested in him, true. But they did not say they were looking to trade KP at that time. Only after KP asked to be traded did they seek trade. We could have had a QB room with Russ, Fields, AND KP.

Read the article that pczach just re-posted. Fields himself said that he was told by his agent that Kenny was going to be traded a couple of days before it happened. Who do you consider to be a more reliable source about what Fields was told and when he was told it than Fields?

[Born2Steel]

Read the article that pczach just re-posted. Fields himself said that he was told by his agent that Kenny was going to be traded a couple of days before it happened. Who do you consider to be a more reliable source about what Fields was told and when he was told it than Fields?

No. According to the article, Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh but then thought it was over when they got Russ. His agent told him there is a chance of KP being traded.

This reads to me that once Russ came in, That's when KP started making noise. That's when the trade KP stuff began. Had it been already going on, it would have been known that the Steelers needed 2 QBs.

We traded for Russell Wilson. = I wanna be traded.

[Mojouw]

Its not a bad thread. Look at what happened last night. Tomlin is handcuffing QB’s. Wilson had 414 yards vs thr Bengals and last night we refused to throw it until the 4th quarter.

We are terrible at this QB thing and its mostly due to coaching

Why the assumption that the QBs are good to begin with?

What evidence do we have that either is any good? KP has zero consistently good pro tape. Wilson has 3 seasons now of declinging play. If you ask the Seahawks....it is more like 5.

[Steeler-in-west]

No. According to the article, Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh but then thought it was over when they got Russ. His agent told him there is a chance of KP being traded.

This reads to me that once Russ came in, That's when KP started making noise. That's when the trade KP stuff began. Had it been already going on, it would have been known that the Steelers needed 2 QBs.

We traded for Russell Wilson. = I wanna be traded.

its more complicated than that. KP was handcuffed by Canadas system, couldnt audible, Mason Cole his center was having a bad year, effecting KP’s performance, and then after Canada is fired KP starts to play better but gets hurt a game later and is basically benched for Rudolph after he recovers. So he was already disgruntled by the time they brought in Russ. That acquisition just broke the camels back. I understand KP’s frustration.

[Born2Steel]

its more complicated than that. KP was handcuffed by Canadas system, couldnt audible, Mason Cole his center was having a bad year, effecting KP’s performance, and then after Canada is fired KP starts to play better but gets hurt a game later and is basically benched for Rudolph after he recovers. So he was already disgruntled by the time they brought in Russ. That acquisition just broke the camels back. I understand KP’s frustration.

I'm not saying I don't understand it. I'm just saying it wasn't some blind-sided trade. I'm saying the Steelers were not actively shopping KP until KP asked to be traded. That's all my post says.

[Voice of Reason]

No. According to the article, Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh but then thought it was over when they got Russ. His agent told him there is a chance of KP being traded.

This reads to me that once Russ came in, That's when KP started making noise. That's when the trade KP stuff began. Had it been already going on, it would have been known that the Steelers needed 2 QBs.

We traded for Russell Wilson. = I wanna be traded.

Everything in your post after "This reads to me..." is just speculation on your part as you try to make up scenarios to fit your anti-Kenny narrative. The one thing that is certain is that the Steelers were already working on a Kenny trade BEFORE he asked to be traded.

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I'm not saying I don't understand it. I'm just saying it wasn't some blind-sided trade. I'm saying the Steelers were not actively shopping KP until KP asked to be traded. That's all my post says.

There's nothing to indicate that except your imagination. The article itself indicates otherwise.

[86WARD]

I'm not saying I don't understand it. I'm just saying it wasn't some blind-sided trade. I'm saying the Steelers were not actively shopping KP until KP asked to be traded. That's all my post says.

Believe it or not, this wasn't initiated by the Steelers. Pickett was the one to request trade, and we now know why.


Entering the offseason, Pickett admitted to the Steelers coaching staff that he was willing to compete for the starting quarterback job. That attitude changed once Pittsburgh signed Russell Wilson, who was released by the Denver Broncos at the start of the new league year.


According to a report, Pickett had no interest in competing with Wilson for the starting quarterback job because he felt like it was inevitable that he was going to lose. Pickett, as a result, requested a trade.


"The Steelers made the move because of the way Pickett was poorly handling the arrival of Russell Wilson, according to sources. That came on the heels of Pickett's behavior last season when he refused to dress as the emergency third quarterback in Seattle in Week 17," said Steelers reporter Gerry Dulac.


Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated has confirmed Dulac's report. Pickett's attitude played a key factor in the Steelers' willingness to move on without much of a fight.


Pickett's attitude is the last thing on earth coaches like Mike Tomlin want to deal with.

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/report-...-from-steelers

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I'm not saying I don't understand it. I'm just saying it wasn't some blind-sided trade. I'm saying the Steelers were not actively shopping KP until KP asked to be traded. That's all my post says.

I mean...sounds like Kenny was steering the ship...

“I just thought it was time,” he said via the NBC Sports Philadelphia YouTube channel. “It just felt like it was time from things that transpired. Wanted to get a chance to go somewhere else to grow my career.”

Nowhere does it say the team thought it was time or we thought it was time or they thought it was time...lol Straight from Kenny's mouth...

[Steeler-in-west]

At the end of the day the steelers doubted KP’s abilities. Wasnt only about attitude or asking for a trade. Otherwise they wouldve put him back in to replace Rudy as soon as KP was healthy at the end of 2023. They had to know they werent going anywhere in the playoffs with MR but they thought they had a better chance with him than KP. Pretty damning assessment. And Russ just broke the camels back. Again, i understand KP being frustrated. I think alot of guys would be. And he was starting to play better when Canada was let go. Time will tell if the Steelers were right in trading him.

[steelcityboyz]

I don't blame Kenny one bit I also would have done the same thing. You only have a limited time in the NFL to make something of your career. Let's face it, KP didn't have a snowballs chance in hell to be the starting QB for the Steelers, he knew it and made a decision to move on. I don't know why that bothers the 3-4 members here who think he cried himself off the team.

All KP did was make a career decsion that he thought was best for him and his family, that's no different than any other normal person that wasn't happy with their job, they would do the same thing. Think about it, if you knew you were never going to advance in your career then you would just settle for that? I know i wouldn't. I wish KP nothing but the best, i hope he succeeds in the NFL.

[Born2Steel]

I don't blame Kenny one bit I also would have done the same thing. You only have a limited time in the NFL to make something of your career. Let's face it, KP didn't have a snowballs chance in hell to be the starting QB for the Steelers, he knew it and made a decision to move on. I don't know why that bothers the 3-4 members here who think he cried himself off the team.

All KP did was make a career decsion that he thought was best for him and his family, that's no different than any other normal person that wasn't happy with their job, they would do the same thing. Think about it, if you knew you were never going to advance in your career then you would just settle for that? I know i wouldn't. I wish KP nothing but the best, i hope he succeeds in the NFL.

Just a question...Maybe KP would not have started over Russ. I think we all know Russ was brought in to start. Question is, do you believe KP would have started over Fields? If the answer is NO, then why does anyone care at all? If the answer is yes, then every fan should be upset that KP asked for the trade.

[steelcityboyz]

Just a question...Maybe KP would not have started over Russ. I think we all know Russ was brought in to start. Question is, do you believe KP would have started over Fields? If the answer is NO, then why does anyone care at all? If the answer is yes, then every fan should be upset that KP asked for the trade.

That's a good question No one will ever know if he would have started over Fields TBH I would have liked to see him and Fields compete. Bottom line is Kenny was the starting QB, got injured and was never named the starter again, if that was me i'd want out too.

[El Kabong]

I don't blame Kenny one bit I also would have done the same thing. You only have a limited time in the NFL to make something of your career. Let's face it, KP didn't have a snowballs chance in hell to be the starting QB for the Steelers, he knew it and made a decision to move on. I don't know why that bothers the 3-4 members here who think he cried himself off the team.

All KP did was make a career decsion that he thought was best for him and his family, that's no different than any other normal person that wasn't happy with their job, they would do the same thing. Think about it, if you knew you were never going to advance in your career then you would just settle for that? I know i wouldn't. I wish KP nothing but the best, i hope he succeeds in the NFL.

How is it a good career decision for Kenny to back up Hurts in Philly as opposed to backing up Wilson in Pittsburgh? Russ is 36. Kenny could find himself the starter in Pittsburgh before much longer if he'd stayed. How long will it be before Kenny is a starter now if ever?

[Voice of Reason]

I don't blame Kenny one bit I also would have done the same thing. You only have a limited time in the NFL to make something of your career. Let's face it, KP didn't have a snowballs chance in hell to be the starting QB for the Steelers, he knew it and made a decision to move on. I don't know why that bothers the 3-4 members here who think he cried himself off the team.

All KP did was make a career decsion that he thought was best for him and his family, that's no different than any other normal person that wasn't happy with their job, they would do the same thing. Think about it, if you knew you were never going to advance in your career then you would just settle for that? I know i wouldn't. I wish KP nothing but the best, i hope he succeeds in the NFL.

Be careful. Your post has too much common sense to be allowed on this board.

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Just a question...Maybe KP would not have started over Russ. I think we all know Russ was brought in to start. Question is, do you believe KP would have started over Fields? If the answer is NO, then why does anyone care at all? If the answer is yes, then every fan should be upset that KP asked for the trade.

KP wouldn't have started over Russ, Fields, or anybody else, because he was in Tomlin's doghouse. That's why he was justified in wanting to get the hell out of here.