2025 QB Prospect Duscussion

[Born2Steel]

This thread is only the first of hopefully many draft prospect threads for the upcoming draft. Since QB is the most important position on a football team, I thought I would start there.

There is no clear direction, that we fans can know, the team is headed in at QB for 2025. We can speculate though. What if....

What if Russell Wilson retires at season's end? He says he wants to play another 4-5 years. Is that evidence enough?

What if Justin Fields goes elsewhere? The (Raiders/Giants), some team offers him more than makes sense to start for them. Do we over-pay to keep him?

I don't know what will happen but I do know we have options. And one of those options is the 2025 draft.


A consensus Top25 Board.....https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com...rd-2025?pos=QB

[DesertSteel]

I’m biased as a Notre Dame fan but I’d take Riley Leonard ahead of all but Ward and Sanders. He can probably be had in round 3. I wasn’t a fan early in the season, but his play and athleticism have won me over.

[cubanstogie]

I’m biased as a Notre Dame fan but I’d take Riley Leonard ahead of all but Ward and Sanders. He can probably be had in round 3. I wasn’t a fan early in the season, but his play and athleticism have won me over.

If he’s available in 3rd I’d take him. Same skill set as Bo Nix IMO. If ND keeps winning his stock could rise though. Allar and Nussmeirer impressed me in a few games but are headed back to school.

[Born2Steel]

I'm intrigued by Will Howard. Not currently considered a Top150 but as a QB you know he'll go higher than his projection. I would take him as high as the 2nd.

Jalen Milroe is another QB that intrigues me. He would need to be taken in the 1st round.

[86WARD]

It’s not a strong class. Maybe a little better than the Pickett class. Nowhere near last years. Don’t make the mistake of drafting to draft one again. Skip to 2026.

[cubanstogie]

It’s not a strong class. Maybe a little better than the Pickett class. Nowhere near last years. Don’t make the mistake of drafting to draft one again. Skip to 2026.

I agree if you’re talking round 1. But in round 3 gamble on backup assuming Fields and Wilson both don’t stay might be an option. With Beck injury I wonder where he’s drafted. Milroe exciting to watch but is liability every few games.

[cubanstogie]

Interesting read on lack of first round grades
https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...grade.amp.html

[ALLD]

The Steelers have bigger holes to fill than settling for a lower round QB. Not saying Rd#3 or beyond could never play well in the NFL, but chances are you need to draft a legitimate starting QB in Round #1 unless the team simply gets lucky. There is too much info out there for some unknown to fall through the cracks more frequently that drafting high. That is also not to say first rounders cannot be busts either.

Anyway, Wilson is a very good QB and would be great if he had more than 2.5 seconds to hold onto the ball and allow the play to develop. The team needs a new
offensive scheme starting with passing to the TE and throwing more to RB out of the backfield.

[Born2Steel]

The Steelers have bigger holes to fill than settling for a lower round QB. Not saying Rd#3 or beyond could never play well in the NFL, but chances are you need to draft a legitimate starting QB in Round #1 unless the team simply gets lucky. There is too much info out there for some unknown to fall through the cracks more frequently that drafting high. That is also not to say first rounders cannot be busts either.

Anyway, Wilson is a very good QB and would be great if he had more than 2.5 seconds to hold onto the ball and allow the play to develop. The team needs a new
offensive scheme starting with passing to the TE and throwing more to RB out of the backfield.

You may be 100% right. But this is a QB prospects thread.

[cubanstogie]

You may be 100% right. But this is a QB prospects thread.

Should be a short thread then. From my reading not many prospects. 2 for sure first rounders. Then Beck and Milroy are wildcards. I’m assuming Raiders or another team won’t get Ward or Sanders and take Beck or Milroy in round 1.

[Mojouw]

I'm intrigued by Will Howard. Not currently considered a Top150 but as a QB you know he'll go higher than his projection. I would take him as high as the 2nd.

Jalen Milroe is another QB that intrigues me. He would need to be taken in the 1st round.

I need to educate myself far more on the prospects in this class but Milroe is the only one who seems interesting.

Not sure I’d take him in the first round but in the late 2nd? 3rd? Sure. Why not?

[Born2Steel]

I need to educate myself far more on the prospects in this class but Milroe is the only one who seems interesting.

Not sure I’d take him in the first round but in the late 2nd? 3rd? Sure. Why not?

There will be more info coming out on this QB class. Because they are QBs. And, because they are QBs, several will be drafted well before their "draft grade". For me, all the so called experts dubbing this a weak class means absolutely nothing. I don't remember but I think Bo Nix has a3rd/4th round grade last year. He went higher than that. He didn't set the football world on fire but he did turn football heads his direction. We'll see what he looks like in year 3 with Sean Payton.

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Point here is... never sleep on a QB. If you see a quality that intrigues you, explore it. You never know.

[cubanstogie]

Milroe with 3 turnovers in first quarter.

[86WARD]

It’s not a good class. Skip them all.

[Born2Steel]

It’s not a good class. Skip them all.

We have no idea how good the class is yet.

[Mojouw]

Milroe with 3 turnovers in first quarter.

But did he look cool doing it?

[cubanstogie]

But did he look cool doing it?

Cool as the other side of the pillow.

[Born2Steel]

Cool as the other side of the pillow.

Stuart Scott! R.I.P.

I posted earlier that I am intrigued by Will Howard. I will post his career stats. You will see that his passing % increased each year with an over 70% at OSU. The Bill Parcell's criteria for QBs is for taking one ion the 1st round, but I think it applies to each round as well. In a class like this one where the experts are calling it weak for instance, use the scale for 2nd/3rd round QBs. Less risk/more reward potential except you lose out on the 5th year option. But, as some on here have pointed out, if he's a franchise QB you don't let him reach that 5th year anyway.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...-howard-2.html
What I looked at first is his completion%. The first 2 seasons it is below 55% but right in that neighborhood. Then it goes to 60, 61, to over 70. That shows improvement each season which is a positive factor and important for scouting a QB. Another Parcell's stat is TDs to INTs ratio, should be at 2 to 1 or better. Howard has 77 passing TDs to 34 INTs. Another promising stat is he adds 26 career rushing TDs with zero fumbles.

As for weaknesses to his game there is not much out there yet on scouting sites for the 2024 season. Most of what I find today is, relies too much on physical abilities, does not possess good velocity on deep passes.

[cubanstogie]

Just read a crazy stat. Only 1 QB drafted in round 1 since 2010has won a SB (Mahomes) 43 drafted in round 1 in that time . 4 percent of first round QBs drafted ever have won a SB. Crazy hard to win.

[Mojouw]

Just read a crazy stat. Only 1 QB drafted in round 1 since 2010has won a SB (Mahomes) 43 drafted in round 1 in that time . 4 percent of first round QBs drafted ever have won a SB. Crazy hard to win.

Nah. It’s super easy. Fire Tomlin. Trade for Pickett. That’s it. All it takes.

[DesertSteel]

Nah. It’s super easy. Fire Tomlin. Trade for Pickett. That’s it. All it takes.

Yes we should trade three number 1’s for him!

[Mojouw]

Yes we should trade three number 1’s for him!

I think they should trade Tomlin for picks. Then go full Ditka and trade all their picks in the next two drafts.

[tube517]

I think they should trade Tomlin for picks. Then go full Ditka and trade all their picks in the next two drafts.

Yes. Trade all of 2025 draft picks for the Boise St RB. He will smoke pot and play in Canada for a year or 2.

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[Born2Steel]

For those interested, Riley Leonard will play today vs the Georgia defense. Georgia typically has NFL level players all across their defense. Get a chance to see what that may look like.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Well, its time to bolster the Defensive line. If you cant stop the Ravens on 13 straight run plays, then it might be a good idea to get better up fron on the D side of the ball.

Alfred Collins D Line, Texas
6'5" 320 lbs.

[oneforthetoe]

Well, its time to bolster the Defensive line. If you cant stop the Ravens on 13 straight run plays, then it might be a good idea to get better up fron on the D side of the ball.

Alfred Collins D Line, Texas
6'5" 320 lbs.

I could go along with that idea. While I think the majority of the draft picks will be offense, most of the positions of need on offense can be drafted in the 2nd through 5th rounds (wr and rb o'line depth), I'd be perfectly ok with taking a d'linman or even a corner with the first pick.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I could go along with that idea. While I think the majority of the draft picks will be offense, most of the positions of need on offense can be drafted in the 2nd through 5th rounds (wr and rb o'line depth), I'd be perfectly ok with taking a d'linman or even a corner with the first pick.

I think we have to consider that if the Steelers are happy with Benton at NT, then look at a 3-4DE. I dont know if there will be 1 graded out as worthy of the 21st pick but I think they need to address D line in the first 2 days. I also think that a CB to play opposite Porter could be a big pick to solidify the pass defense.

Senior Bowl is Feb 1st.

[oneforthetoe]

I think we have to consider that if the Steelers are happy with Benton at NT, then look at a 3-4DE. I dont know if there will be 1 graded out as worthy of the 21st pick but I think they need to address D line in the first 2 days. I also think that a CB to play opposite Porter could be a big pick to solidify the pass defense.

Senior Bowl is Feb 1st.

I do like the CB idea because the Steelers just have had little success drafting a cb past the 2nd round. Jackson isn't terrible for the 10 plays or so every game until he gets hurt. I feel if we had two good starting cb's they would have more freedom to take more chances with the rest of the defense.

[tube517]

Well, its time to bolster the Defensive line. If you cant stop the Ravens on 13 straight run plays, then it might be a good idea to get better up fron on the D side of the ball.

Alfred Collins D Line, Texas
6'5" 320 lbs.

Yeah they need to get younger on the DL. They likely cut Larry O. 10.5 million cap hit in 2025.

Only Benton, Leal and Logan Lee (forgot about him) are the younger ones. Loudermilk is a UFA



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[Born2Steel]

I’m biased as a Notre Dame fan but I’d take Riley Leonard ahead of all but Ward and Sanders. He can probably be had in round 3. I wasn’t a fan early in the season, but his play and athleticism have won me over.

Will Howard vs Riley Leonard for the college championship. Both seem to be worthy candidates. Have to wait and see how the board falls once everyone declares and we get into pro days and such, maybe these guys will be there day 2. Maybe not.