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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    You can't give him a contract with how the season is ending. You just can't.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Wilson’s next contract should not come from the Steelers unless he finds something next week in what most likely will be in Baltimore.
    He could go 30/30 for 497 yards and 6 TDs…he shouldn’t be getting a new contract in Pittsburgh. No way.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    I’d give the money to Darnold and get a real LT

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    I’d give the money to Darnold and get a real LT
    No way. Darnold is nothing without O’Connell.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    There are back up that could run a better 2 min drill than what Russ just did.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    No way I'm giving Wilson anything

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    I definitely would not resign Wilson!! I've seen enough!

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    There are back up that could run a better 2 min drill than what Russ just did.
    to be fair Moore became a turnstyle and PF became Jackie Smith. It wasnt only Russ, but i do think he ran out of gas in this last four game stretch. Thats the risk we ran by trotting a 36 year old out there this season.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    to be fair Moore became a turnstyle and PF became Jackie Smith. It wasnt only Russ, but i do think he ran out of gas in this last four game stretch. Thats the risk we ran by trotting a 36 year old out there this season.
    Russ was bad, O-Line was worse. I’d still take Russ over the WB room they had last season…especially at his price.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    No way. Darnold is nothing without O’Connell.
    how do we know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    to be fair Moore became a turnstyle and PF became Jackie Smith. It wasnt only Russ, but i do think he ran out of gas in this last four game stretch. Thats the risk we ran by trotting a 36 year old out there this season.
    2-min drill.

    2 yards loss on check down instead of a throw away, tackled in bounds

    2 yard gain in bounds

    10 yard slant in bounds

    2 yard scramble instead of throwing it away, tackles in bounds

    sacked.

    over throwing a great double move from Pickens(need another look)

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Russ was bad, O-Line was worse. I’d still take Russ over the WB room they had last season…especially at his price.
    i hope the Steelers explore other options. 37 year old Russ will not be better than this years version

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    how do we know that?
    History. It just doesn’t click overnight in one offseason. What’s he done to show any kind of talent in years before this season. Also doesn’t hurt to be throwing to the best receiver in the league and one of the top #2 guys.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    2-min drill.

    2 yards loss on check down instead of a throw away, tackled in bounds

    2 yard gain in bounds

    10 yard slant in bounds

    2 yard scramble instead of throwing it away, tackles in bounds

    sacked.

    over throwing a great double move from Pickens(need another look)
    true, Russ made critical mistakes on the pass to pickens and the 2 yd run. But Moore got beat on the sack and PF dropped a perfect pass to end the drive - and game

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    i hope the Steelers explore other options. 37 year old Russ will not be better than this years version
    Nope

    I’d sign Fields before Wilson or Fields to start and Wilson on a one year deal to support Fields.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Wilson’s price just went to $20M. Fields probably around $12M. Trade for McCarthy and start over.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    History. It just doesn’t click overnight in one offseason. What’s he done to show any kind of talent in years before this season. Also doesn’t hurt to be throwing to the best receiver in the league and one of the top #2 guys.
    well we have pickens, just add a WR no 2 and get a good LT and I would be more inclined to go with the younger guy over Russ. Russ will be worse than last year. Or we go to the draft, in 25 or 26. That might be the best idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Nope

    I’d sign Fields before Wilson or Fields to start and Wilson on a one year deal to support Fields.
    if your going to go with a guy that needs development just trade TJ and Cam and proceed with a rebuild

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    51 yards passing with like 9 minutes left in the game is not what we were all told we were getting.

    4.8 yard per attempt is not what we were told we were getting.

    Making all the wrong decisions under pressure with the clock running down, missing a player wide open for the win, getting confused by one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and making all those mistakes with years and years of experience is not what we were told we were getting.

    The fourth straight game with 17 or fewer points. The worst since 2003.

    The four-game losing streak to end the season is the worst since 1998.

    It's not what we were told we were getting by many here. You know, the ones that keep insulting anyone that says something they don't agree with.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Nope

    I’d sign Fields before Wilson or Fields to start and Wilson on a one year deal to support Fields.
    This is my new hope.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    This is my new hope.
    I don’t think Wilson would sign a one year deal for $25M or lower and Fields might get more than I’d be willing to pay somewhere else.

    There will be a good amount of teams needing QBs, but also a good amount in the draft. Either way, I don’t think many are worth a starting NFL job. I’d trade high picks for Justin Herbert if that were an option.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Likely, Russ' final game coming up.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I don’t think Wilson would sign a one year deal for $25M or lower and Fields might get more than I’d be willing to pay somewhere else.

    There will be a good amount of teams needing QBs, but also a good amount in the draft. Either way, I don’t think many are worth a starting NFL job. I’d trade high picks for Justin Herbert if that were an option.
    If the Chargers were foolish enough to trade Herbert, I’d give them whatever they wanted.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    If the Chargers were foolish enough to trade Herbert, I’d give them whatever they wanted.
    If Jimmy Harbaugh makes the move and gets his JJ back, Herbert should be available.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    If Jimmy Harbaugh makes the move and gets his JJ back, Herbert should be available.
    Dang! Hadn’t thought of that.

    Okay. How much would you give up?

    2 firsts? Three?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I’d still take Russ over the WB room they had last season…especially at his price.


    You are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    51 yards passing with like 9 minutes left in the game is not what we were all told we were getting.

    4.8 yard per attempt is not what we were told we were getting.

    Making all the wrong decisions under pressure with the clock running down, missing a player wide open for the win, getting confused by one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and making all those mistakes with years and years of experience is not what we were told we were getting.

    The fourth straight game with 17 or fewer points. The worst since 2003.

    The four-game losing streak to end the season is the worst since 1998.

    It's not what we were told we were getting by many here. You know, the ones that keep insulting anyone that says something they don't agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    If Jimmy Harbaugh makes the move and gets his JJ back, Herbert should be available.
    Yes. A nice three way trade would be perfect...lol.


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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    We have zero leverage and/or negotiation power. Fields has said he would like to stay in Pittsburgh. But we currently have an empty QB room going into 2025. Justin Fields and a draft pick is most likely what we end up with looking at it today.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    We have zero leverage and/or negotiation power. Fields has said he would like to stay in Pittsburgh. But we currently have an empty QB room going into 2025. Justin Fields and a draft pick is most likely what we end up with looking at it today.
    Wilson's recent play has given the Steelers more leverage than they had. Unless he flips a switch and lights the Ravens up, he's unlikely to get many offers. Or are least long term big $$$ offers. He's gonna get classified as a guy who can't beat good teams any longer.

    Wilson will likely have to decide if he wants to roll the dice on potentially being a backup on a playoff team or a starter on some trash team looking to slow okay their prized new draft pick.

    To me (and this is likely my biased perspective) Fields will be the more expensive option to sign. Some team aside from the Steelers is going to look at their options, Fields age and physical gifts, and decide that they'd rather have Fields than the 4th QB off the board in a poor class.

    And the Steelers will have to do the same calculus. How realistic is it that Fields hits his stratospheric ceiling? And how much do they want to pay to be the ones holding that lottery ticket?

    I have no idea what that answer is. All I know is that if I was running a team, I'd rather have Fields than Wilson. And it's not close based on what we currently know.

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    Re: Russell Wilson's Next Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Wilson’s price just went to $20M. Fields probably around $12M. Trade for McCarthy and start over.
    See, this is a possible option that I was thinking of. I think the issue will be that McCarthy would be graded higher than most if not all of the QB in the upcoming draft, so MIN is going to want something like 2#1 picks at minimum for McCarthy, who is a great prospect but nothing proven at all.

    I still think its the best option to re tool at QB, other than shooting for a 3-14 season and a top draft pick to get a QB.

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