Russell Wilson's Next Contract

[ALLD]

It would be great if Mario Lemieux could throw a football.

[Born2Steel]

While Russ aint it, I thought keeping Fields and then waiting until 2026 would’ve been the best move. 20 mill is not a lot for a QB. We keep a known quantity on the team who would have another year in this offense and maybe even gain enough trust to throw over the middle or call an audible.

Starting over every year and then changing QB’s mid season hasn’t worked but it seems like something we continue doing.

$20M is not a lot for a starting QB. Apparently, the Steelers decided on a price of $30M with $20M guaranteed and made the offer to Fields. Since the Jets only offered $40M with $30 guaranteed, the difference doesn't make sense if we really wanted Fields back. Makes me believe we only wanted him back up to that price. Something they saw in him last season set that price, because it is so low for a starting QB. Rudolph took $3M guaranteed to come back. Other than mobility, not a huge difference between the upside of those two QBs really.

[feltdizz]

$20M is not a lot for a starting QB. Apparently, the Steelers decided on a price of $30M with $20M guaranteed and made the offer to Fields. Since the Jets only offered $40M with $30 guaranteed, the difference doesn't make sense if we really wanted Fields back. Makes me believe we only wanted him back up to that price. Something they saw in him last season set that price, because it is so low for a starting QB. Rudolph took $3M guaranteed to come back. Other than mobility, not a huge difference between the upside of those two QBs really.

We made Fields an offer we knew he would refuse. We are cheap.

This is why Rodgers hasn’t signed. We won’t give him 2 years guaranteed.

Its odd we would give DK all that money but we skimped on the QB position.

[Born2Steel]

We made Fields an offer we knew he would refuse. We are cheap.

This is why Rodgers hasn’t signed. We won’t give him 2 years guaranteed.

Its odd we would give DK all that money but we skimped on the QB position.

Do we know what we have with Mason? I believe we know very well what we have with Mason. The fact that they brought him back tells me the coaches are very comfortable with Mason. I don't think they were as comfortable with Fields. Just my opinion here, but Fields offers more with his mobility, but Mason offers more with his arm talent. That said, Mason is not a NFL starter caliber QB. If he were he would not have signed for $3M. But he is a NFL caliber backup QB.

When Fields was starting last season I thought to myself, this is so much better than last season (2023). I still think it was. But when Russ took over we were even better than with Fields. I don't so much blame the QBs and coaches for the end of season let down like most fans. We played the Eagles and Chiefs, who were in the SB. We played the Ravens twice at their place. The Ravens were just better than us last season, simple as that. The Bengals game was disappointing but it was something like 19-17, not some blowout loss like the others. But here's the thing... the offense was starting to get an identity heading into those games. It was feeling like we were onto something, and something positive. (Just how I was feeling maybe). I expected Russ to be brought back up to the last month. I did not expect Fields. Then that last month happened and I wanted Fields over Russ, but not really wanting either.

Today, I would rather draft a rookie and see if Smith and Arth can build something. It looks like we will go the draft a rookie and let him sit behind ARod for a season, maybe 2. We are not in the golden years of Steelers football but we're not as bad off as the 80s either.

[Dwinsgames]

doesnt look like the Giants are settling on Wilson either ....

[Voice of Reason]

Do we know what we have with Mason? I believe we know very well what we have with Mason. The fact that they brought him back tells me the coaches are very comfortable with Mason.

Using your logic, the fact that they let him go a year ago must show that they weren't comfortable with him then. So you're saying that they weren't comfortable with him after watching him play in person for them in 2023, but became comfortable with him again after watching him play for Tennessee in 2024???

[Steeler-in-west]

Theyre fishing for a quick fix. They nabbed Wilson and Fields at a bargain price thinking that one of them would pan out and they ended up letting both go. Effectively threw them back in the water. Now its like “well Mason wasnt really that bad after all” and “we have no one else until AR maybe joins us”. I understand Tomlins urgency for his legacy type of thing, but for the Steelers, they need a new coach with a real vision and plan.

[Born2Steel]

Using your logic, the fact that they let him go a year ago must show that they weren't comfortable with him then. So you're saying that they weren't comfortable with him after watching him play in person for them in 2023, but became comfortable with him again after watching him play for Tennessee in 2024???

No. That's not correct. All I said was bringing him back shows their level of comfort with him. That's it. You can add to it if you want, but that's all you.

[Hawkman]

No. That's not correct. All I said was bringing him back shows their level of comfort with him. That's it. You can add to it if you want, but that's all you.

I certainly got what you meant. And didn’t the Steelers make him an offer last year that he turned down?

[Born2Steel]

I certainly got what you meant. And didn’t the Steelers make him an offer last year that he turned down?

That I don't know. And if I did know, I forgot. I do remember when he was drafted and Tomlin was very much enamored with Mason. I think he's still one of Mike T's guys.

[Dwinsgames]

I certainly got what you meant. And didn’t the Steelers make him an offer last year that he turned down?

they wanted to make him an offer to stay but he thought with his decent stretch of end of the season games as a starter he would garner decent FA attention and told them he wanted to test the market .... Once he said that the team went in other directions leaving Mason to sign with the Titans as the only team who made him any offer at all

[Steeler-in-west]

Hes got cajones for going after Myles Garrett. Its easy to root for MR thats for sure.

[Voice of Reason]

No. That's not correct. All I said was bringing him back shows their level of comfort with him.

You can't have it both ways. If bringing him back shows their level of comfort with him, then letting him go in the first place must have shown a level of discomfort with him.

Logic isn't your strong point, is it?

[Born2Steel]

You can't have it both ways. If bringing him back shows their level of comfort with him, then letting him go in the first place must have shown a level of discomfort with him.

Logic isn't your strong point, is it?

I guess not. Lol

[Born2Steel]

they wanted to make him an offer to stay but he thought with his decent stretch of end of the season games as a starter he would garner decent FA attention and told them he wanted to test the market .... Once he said that the team went in other directions leaving Mason to sign with the Titans as the only team who made him any offer at all

I think his time with the Titans proved to him and his agent that he is indeed a backup in this league. I also think he has a pretty good relationship with Mike Tomlin and now he's right back in the best spot for him. I couldn't understand why Landry Jones kept signing those 2yr/$2M contracts without even dipping a toe into FA. Then when he left I realized he simply had no where else to go in the NFL. Feels like Mason is in the same predicament. Off he has to come in and finish a game, or even start a game or two, we don't just automatically jump into panic mode. Different story of he's the starter week one.

[Dwinsgames]

I think his time with the Titans proved to him and his agent that he is indeed a backup in this league. I also think he has a pretty good relationship with Mike Tomlin and now he's right back in the best spot for him. I couldn't understand why Landry Jones kept signing those 2yr/$2M contracts without even dipping a toe into FA. Then when he left I realized he simply had no where else to go in the NFL. Feels like Mason is in the same predicament. Off he has to come in and finish a game, or even start a game or two, we don't just automatically jump into panic mode. Different story of he's the starter week one.

you are likely onto something there ...

I do like Mason more than Landry Jones tho if that matters at all lol

[feltdizz]

You can't have it both ways. If bringing him back shows their level of comfort with him, then letting him go in the first place must have shown a level of discomfort with him.

Logic isn't your strong point, is it?

We brought in Mitch Trubisky after he threw 8 passes and one INT in Buffalo. Comfort has nothing to do with our philosophy for bringing QB’s in.

[Dwinsgames]

We brought in Mitch Trubisky after he threw 8 passes and one INT in Buffalo. Comfort has nothing to do with our philosophy for bringing QB’s in.

nope its traits , and they have failed to develop the guys they have brought in from other places with said traits ...

about a half dozen (former 1st round picks with traits/pedigree as Tomlin like to call it) guys who failed or outlived their welcome with old teams ...

Haskins , Trubisky, Maddox , Paxton Lynch ,Fields , and to a lessor degree because they had some success elsewhere Leftwich and Vick but we got little out of either

[Mojouw]

nope its traits , and they have failed to develop the guys they have brought in from other places with said traits ...

about a half dozen (former 1st round picks with traits/pedigree as Tomlin like to call it) guys who failed or outlived their welcome with old teams ...

Haskins , Trubisky, Maddox , Paxton Lynch ,Fields , and to a lessor degree because they had some success elsewhere Leftwich and Vick but we got little out of either

No one has gotten anything out of the first list.

And the second were mostly washed when they got here.

Those lists are hardly some massive failure. It is what happens when you don't have the resources to devote to the position for two decades and don't tank like the Colts did to get Luck.

Too bad that more QBs didn't get hurt a few years ago and they could've been in position to get Maye. But, oh well. Thems the breaks.

[Dwinsgames]

No one has gotten anything out of the first list.

And the second were mostly washed when they got here.

Those lists are hardly some massive failure. It is what happens when you don't have the resources to devote to the position for two decades and don't tank like the Colts did to get Luck.

Too bad that more QBs didn't get hurt a few years ago and they could've been in position to get Maye. But, oh well. Thems the breaks.

you are not wrong , but neither am I ...both things can be true

[El Kabong]

Some people seem to expect that when the Steelers bring in a qb that means they automatically decided he must be great and it's some massive failure if they don't develop him. Sometimes you just roll the dice. If he works out, great, you got someone good for little investment. If he doesn't, oh, well, he probably wasn't going to anyway. Sometimes the guys can't be developed. Sometimes they're just not good. No reason to beat up the Steelers for giving it a try.

[Mojouw]

Keep buying lottery tickets. Hope one pays out.

[pczach]

Keep buying lottery tickets. Hope one pays out.

Yep.

You can't win if you don't play.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I dont know if its been asked yet, but did Russel Wilson live up to the expectations that Steelers fans on this board had of him 1 year ago when he signed with the Steelers?

I seem to recall there as a lot of optimism from some that he had a history of success and Super Bowl pedigree. Were we disappointed, impressed or meh?

[Born2Steel]

I dont know if its been asked yet, but did Russel Wilson live up to the expectations that Steelers fans on this board had of him 1 year ago when he signed with the Steelers?

I seem to recall there as a lot of optimism from some that he had a history of success and Super Bowl pedigree. Were we disappointed, impressed or meh?

I would say that against the average teams he did well. Against the Eagles, Chiefs, and Ravens twice not so much. But I tend to look at it as more of a team issue than a Russ issue. Apparently the Steelers saw it as a Russ issue since they didn't offer him to re-sign. What did you think?

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I can't speak for others but that's pretty much how I approach each season anyway. I'm going to be the optimist.

[El Kabong]

Keep buying lottery tickets. Hope one pays out.

Exactly. But it seems when a guy the Steelers decided to take a flyer on doesn't work out, then some posters want to lambaste the Steelers.

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I dont know if its been asked yet, but did Russel Wilson live up to the expectations that Steelers fans on this board had of him 1 year ago when he signed with the Steelers?

I seem to recall there as a lot of optimism from some that he had a history of success and Super Bowl pedigree. Were we disappointed, impressed or meh?

Disappointed. I wasn't expecting Russ in his prime, but I thought/hoped he would be better than what we got down the stretch.

[Mojouw]

I dont know if its been asked yet, but did Russel Wilson live up to the expectations that Steelers fans on this board had of him 1 year ago when he signed with the Steelers?

I seem to recall there as a lot of optimism from some that he had a history of success and Super Bowl pedigree. Were we disappointed, impressed or meh?

I had low expectations. So about what I thought?


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[Voice of Reason]

Some people seem to expect that when the Steelers bring in a qb that means they automatically decided he must be great and it's some massive failure if they don't develop him. Sometimes you just roll the dice. If he works out, great, you got someone good for little investment. If he doesn't, oh, well, he probably wasn't going to anyway. Sometimes the guys can't be developed. Sometimes they're just not good. No reason to beat up the Steelers for giving it a try.

If it's a roll of the dice, you should win at least once in a while. If you lose EVERY TIME, maybe it means you aren't too good at rolling dice.

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I dont know if its been asked yet, but did Russel Wilson live up to the expectations that Steelers fans on this board had of him 1 year ago when he signed with the Steelers?

I seem to recall there as a lot of optimism from some that he had a history of success and Super Bowl pedigree. Were we disappointed, impressed or meh?

He didn't live up to a lot of people's expectations. He totally lived up to mine.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I would say that against the average teams he did well. Against the Eagles, Chiefs, and Ravens twice not so much. But I tend to look at it as more of a team issue than a Russ issue. Apparently the Steelers saw it as a Russ issue since they didn't offer him to re-sign. What did you think?

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I can't speak for others but that's pretty much how I approach each season anyway. I'm going to be the optimist.

I thought that he was an aging QB with declining skills that was going to bring hope and hype based on what he did 10 years ago, but was sadly going to be in the bottom 1/3 of the QB's in the league.

So he pretty much met my expectations. I was hopeful to see him connect more intermediate throws and move the chains better, but sadly he was either deep ball or check down and bring on the punt team a lot.

[ALLD]

They got a decent salary deal by bringing Rudolph back plus he came with a case of clipboards. This reminds me of the dark days of Cliff Stoudt. I just hope nobody gets sucked in with Rogers. He is way past expiration date and should be thinking about a beach house somewhere.