Maybe It's Just Me But

[ALLD]

I think six wins is a little better than what I thought they’d be at the bye. The true test starts with the Commanders and then it’s a gauntlet the rest of the way. I think Russ may have his game legs under him by then. Would still like to see the addition of a WR that can move the WR Room needle.

They need to figure out Broderick Jones and they need to tighten up the defensive run game.

Maybe they can get Robin Cole who was great at stopping it.

[polamalubeast]

Yes….field goals are part of special teams. Boz misses all those and we lose the game. We currently have one of the best STs in the NFL. Enjoy it. Danny gets a break.

The offense still need to put Boswell in the FG range so this is not like the offense don't contribute on the field goal...

[Born2Steel]

The offense still need to put Boswell in the FG range so this is not like the offense don't contribute on the field goal...

Obviously. My original point was we still need to get into the end zone rather than settling for FGs. I want to see this offense continue to progress.

[Hawkman]

The offense still need to put Boswell in the FG range so this is not like the offense don't contribute on the field goal...

Just wondering if you are short changing the STs. I realize that the O has to get them in position, but look at how many kickers have missed this year.

[DesertSteel]

Actually, VOR predicted a 7-10 season. (several times)

Don't let facts get in the way of a good joke! Besides, he'll still be sticking to his 7 after they win 8.

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The offense still need to put Boswell in the FG range so this is not like the offense don't contribute on the field goal...

The offense only needs to go 30-40 yards to get in FG range. I'm giving most of the credit to Boz and the ST for those points.

[86WARD]

[hawaiiansteeler]

Don't let facts get in the way of a good joke! Besides, he'll still be sticking to his 7 after they win 8.

we're going 1-8 from here on out

[Steeler-in-west]

Yes….field goals are part of special teams. Boz misses all those and we lose the game. We currently have one of the best STs in the NFL. Enjoy it. Danny gets a break.

ok, im just giving the offense credit for the 3 points since they put the field goal team in position to make the kick

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6+5 at least

[Voice of Reason]

In your world….if we win against the “ big boys” Will you be happy or pissed? You clearly are not a Steelers Football fan.

This is rich. I'm the one who's had to go through a whole year reading posts on here from guys who were deliriously happy that Kenny Pickett "failed".

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The steelers were a 7-10 team according to you before this season....

Way to jinx it.

[Dwinsgames]

This is rich. I'm the one who's had to go through a whole year reading posts on here from guys who were deliriously happy that Kenny Pickett "failed".

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Way to jinx it.

I was consistent , never thought KP8 was worthy of being drafted in the 1st round he was a middle round QB in my eyes from the start of the draft process and that never changed .... I wanted him to succeed once we drafted him , but he proved to be unable to get out of his own way time and time again .... his game had no elite aspects to it thus was not really anything to build on .... sure I pointed out his shortcomings but that doesn't mean I wanted him to fail UNTIL it was abundantly clear that no matter how much I had hoped he could become a quality QB he simply was not going to do that .... then he started the pouting shit and at that point I washed my hands of him as did the team ..... he is now gone so lets please stop talking about him or move such talk the the NFL section where it belongs

[polamalubeast]

Nobody who is a steelers fan were happy that Kenny was so bad last year....Not because we thought Kenny wasn't a true franchise QB and that his ceiling was too low means we were glad he was a failure

And once again this thread has nothing to do with Kenny VOR, you're the only person in the forums (not just this forum) that you still talk about Kenny, you're pathetic and toxic like crazy with this obsession!

[Hawkman]

[QUOTE=Voice of Reason;869459]This is rich. I'm the one who's had to go through a whole year reading posts on here from guys who were deliriously happy that Kenny Pickett "failed".

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Simple solution…..don’t come here. Many here will be happier and I’m sure you will be. Where in my post did I say anything about KP? I cheered for him as much as anyone. Sorry it didn’t work. That short era is over.

[Mojouw]

Even Kenny Pickett's burner account thinks this has moved beyond ridiculous.

8 weeks into a 6-2 season with multiple roster shaking coaching decisions and scheme alterations to discuss each week and this guy can only talk about a marginal back-up QB who is no longer on the roster.

Ever notice that the most visible KP8 supporters on Steelers message boards ever only talk about KP, firing Mike Tomlin, and other various QBs that are not good at football (Hi, Mason, we all see you)? It is almost like they don't understand what they are watching...maybe they don't watch?

[Steeler-in-west]

I hope Russ continues to play well. (I think he’ll make us all forget about KP). The way hes navigating the pocket and making decisions makes me think he’ll be fine against the playoff teams we’ll be facing. He’s getting Frazier back too.

My bigger concern is how will our defense hold up against LJ, Daniels, Burrow and Mahomes.

[Mojouw]

I hope Russ continues to play well. (I think he’ll make us all forget about KP). The way hes navigating the pocket and making decisions makes me think he’ll be fine against the playoff teams we’ll be facing. He’s getting Frazier back too.

My bigger concern is how will our defense hold up against LJ, Daniels, Burrow and Mahomes.

The defense won't hold up. Based on 8 games, the best the NFL can hope to do with those guys is prevent the bleeding from hemorrhaging. You have to have an offense capable of moving the ball and scoring points against their defense. Maybe not quite winning in a shoot-out....but something in the mid twenties. Can't be the first team to 10 points wins.

The biggest remaining questions are whether the Steelers can run the ball on a playoff caliber team; can they play from behind for large stretches of the game, and can Wilson do what he has been doing when under more severe pass rush?

We, as fans, are gonna find out pretty quick after the bye.

[DesertSteel]

The defense won't hold up. Based on 8 games, the best the NFL can hope to do with those guys is prevent the bleeding from hemorrhaging. You have to have an offense capable of moving the ball and scoring points against their defense. Maybe not quite winning in a shoot-out....but something in the mid twenties. Can't be the first team to 10 points wins.

The biggest remaining questions are whether the Steelers can run the ball on a playoff caliber team; can they play from behind for large stretches of the game, and can Wilson do what he has been doing when under more severe pass rush?

We, as fans, are gonna find out pretty quick after the bye.

Russ played pretty good against the stiff competition last year. I think he has it in him still.

[polamalubeast]

Even Justin Fields was much better that Kenny...Much better,Kenny is so easy to forget since he was a bottom 5 QB last season and Fields was around average this year with more grow to come....The ceilling of Kenny was way too low

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The defense won't hold up. Based on 8 games, the best the NFL can hope to do with those guys is prevent the bleeding from hemorrhaging. You have to have an offense capable of moving the ball and scoring points against their defense. Maybe not quite winning in a shoot-out....but something in the mid twenties. Can't be the first team to 10 points wins.

The biggest remaining questions are whether the Steelers can run the ball on a playoff caliber team; can they play from behind for large stretches of the game, and can Wilson do what he has been doing when under more severe pass rush?

We, as fans, are gonna find out pretty quick after the bye.

If Wilson continue to play similar to his Seattle days and that the running game is very good with that,everything is possible....I don't ask the defense to shutdown the opposing offense to 10 points or below but can't gave up 30 points or more....I mean this is possible,the chiefs have won their last 13 games since last season without scoring 30 points once on offense....They did not score 30 points once in their last 17 games and their defense did not allow 30 points since the 2023 season

For the comeback...I think they can comeback from 10 points but higher to that,it will be harder but we can said that for almost every team...Never good to being too far behind

[Mojouw]

Russ played pretty good against the stiff competition last year. I think he has it in him still.

He is throwing much (much) deeper and more frequently than he did with the Broncos. That is helping him be incredibly productive. So maybe that was a Sean Payton QB Guru issue rather than a Russell Wilson is old issue?

My biggest concern is that Wilson has always lived and died by making magic happen totally outside of the structure of the play. Run around, reset his feet, and punish a defense for being foolish enough to send the pass rush. Kind of like a certain QB that played for a long time here in Pittsburgh. The last 2-3 seasons, Wilson has appeared to lose that part of his game. If he can either find the fountain of youth or adapt his old man game to work around the fact that he can no longer elude NFL pass rushers a decade younger than him...we might get to see a version of his glory days make on last playoff ride.

[polamalubeast]

He is throwing much (much) deeper and more frequently than he did with the Broncos. That is helping him be incredibly productive. So maybe that was a Sean Payton QB Guru issue rather than a Russell Wilson is old issue?

My biggest concern is that Wilson has always lived and died by making magic happen totally outside of the structure of the play. Run around, reset his feet, and punish a defense for being foolish enough to send the pass rush. Kind of like a certain QB that played for a long time here in Pittsburgh. The last 2-3 seasons, Wilson has appeared to lose that part of his game. If he can either find the fountain of youth or adapt his old man game to work around the fact that he can no longer elude NFL pass rushers a decade younger than him...we might get to see a version of his glory days make on last playoff ride.

I think Sean Payton is a great coach and great offensive coach but it was not a good fit for Wilson because Wilson is not dink and dunk passer like Drew Brees was....Wilson is more a throw deep QB but he take too many sack to being a dink and dunk passer and attempts 40 pass per game

[ALLD]

I was consistent , never thought KP8 was worthy of being drafted in the 1st round he was a middle round QB in my eyes from the start of the draft process and that never changed .... I wanted him to succeed once we drafted him , but he proved to be unable to get out of his own way time and time again .... his game had no elite aspects to it thus was not really anything to build on .... sure I pointed out his shortcomings but that doesn't mean I wanted him to fail UNTIL it was abundantly clear that no matter how much I had hoped he could become a quality QB he simply was not going to do that .... then he started the pouting shit and at that point I washed my hands of him as did the team ..... he is now gone so lets please stop talking about him or move such talk the the NFL section where it belongs

The point of this argument is that the Steelers maybe drafted a QB too high and hoped the incentive would push him to perform? Drafting a guy high for whatever reason whether it's need or for voodoo reasons and then hoping the player lives up to the hype is a tough way to find a franchise player. The problem is everybody knew KP would never be a SB caliber QB because he lacks the skills. By the time he might be ready TJ Watt will be ready to retire.

I watched the same thing happen when the Panthers offered Kerry Collins an obscene contract at the time hoping the big money would give him confidence. It was obvious the Panthers were desperate for a QB and threw money at him. Too bad money cannot buy an accurate arm and he flopped.

Need to give Tomlin and Khan all the credit for landing Wilson and Fields. KP left town because he knew those 2 were better. Wilson so far looks like the most complete QB the Steelers ever had and I know that is a bold statement. He protects the balls, can read a D and call an audible and there is no on or off the field drama. He also has an accurate arm and tight spiral. Fields is our best back up QB since Terry Hanratty.

[El Kabong]

The point of this argument is that the Steelers maybe drafted a QB too high and hoped the incentive would push him to perform? Drafting a guy high for whatever reason whether it's need or for voodoo reasons and then hoping the player lives up to the hype is a tough way to find a franchise player. The problem is everybody knew KP would never be a SB caliber QB because he lacks the skills. By the time he might be ready TJ Watt will be ready to retire.

I watched the same thing happen when the Panthers offered Kerry Collins an obscene contract at the time hoping the big money would give him confidence. It was obvious the Panthers were desperate for a QB and threw money at him. Too bad money cannot buy an accurate arm and he flopped.

Need to give Tomlin and Khan all the credit for landing Wilson and Fields. KP left town because he knew those 2 were better. Wilson so far looks like the most complete QB the Steelers ever had and I know that is a bold statement. He protects the balls, can read a D and call an audible and there is no on or off the field drama. He also has an accurate arm and tight spiral. Fields is our best back up QB since Terry Hanratty.

More complete than Ben?

[Steeler-in-west]

The defense won't hold up. Based on 8 games, the best the NFL can hope to do with those guys is prevent the bleeding from hemorrhaging. You have to have an offense capable of moving the ball and scoring points against their defense. Maybe not quite winning in a shoot-out....but something in the mid twenties. Can't be the first team to 10 points wins.

The biggest remaining questions are whether the Steelers can run the ball on a playoff caliber team; can they play from behind for large stretches of the game, and can Wilson do what he has been doing when under more severe pass rush?

We, as fans, are gonna find out pretty quick after the bye.

if the O line can give Russ enough time to look downfield and hit his targets i like our chances. That’ll open up the running game. I guess everything starts with the performance of the O line. Glad Frazier is coming back. Wish Jones would start figuring it out (it would be the perfect time).

[Mojouw]

if the O line can give Russ enough time to look downfield and hit his targets i like our chances. That’ll open up the running game. I guess everything starts with the performance of the O line. Glad Frazier is coming back. Wish Jones would start figuring it out (it would be the perfect time).

That would be great. Improved o line play would never be a bad thing.

But Wilson has always been his best version when he creates and goes off script even if the o line is pretty good.

That’s the piece of his game that doesn’t seem to be coming back. Last game, he tried and it resulted in a couple of sacks and a terrible fumble. Those used to be big plays for his team.

And it is okay that those big plays are t there, as long as Wilson doesn’t hunt for them.

That was my biggest fear with Wilson is that he would hunt for big plays he can no longer make and it would lead to turnovers and sacks. He’s been a pleasant surprise with his willingness to throw it away or just take the sack.

[ALLD]

More complete than Ben?

Apples and oranges because Wilson plays a west coast style and Ben was a gunslinger. Wilson is definitely more polished and accurate. It is easier for others to play with Wilson because his style is more conducive and systematic than off-the-cuff. I don't think there are any personal problems among the players and Wilson either.

You all are going to be pleasantly surprised when it is realized that Wilson is currently a Top 5 QB in the NFL. I think they need to get as much as they can out of him now. If they do not go to the SB this year they will go on a run next year. Fields can close out the games in the 4th quarter to give Wilson a break and extend his playing years.

[Voice of Reason]

.... sure I pointed out his shortcomings but that doesn't mean I wanted him to fail UNTIL it was abundantly clear that no matter how much I had hoped he could become a quality QB he simply was not going to do that

So you admit that you eventually "wanted him to fail". Just as I said.

How come nobody here is accusing YOU of not being a Steelers fan???

[Voice of Reason]

Nobody who is a steelers fan were happy that Kenny was so bad last year....

And nobody who is a Steelers fan should be happy that Tomlin was so bad the last seven years. So why isn't anybody here allowed to criticize HIM the way you guys have been criticizing Kenny?

And once again this thread has nothing to do with Kenny

Right. It has to do with the hypocrisy of people here who criticize certain members of the Steeler organization repeatedly (such as Kenny and Canada) and never get their loyalty to the Steelers questioned for doing so, but are the first to question the loyalty of anyone who criticizes a different member of the organization (Tomlin) who has screwed up HIS job at least as bad or even worse than the other two guys. The hypocrisy of the Good Ol' Boys here is through the roof.

[Voice of Reason]

Simple solution…..don’t come here.

Simpler solution. If you're going to dish it out, then have the guts to take it.

[Voice of Reason]

Ever notice that the most visible KP8 supporters on Steelers message boards ever only talk about KP, firing Mike Tomlin, and other various QBs that are not good at football (Hi, Mason, we all see you)?

Ever notice that certain people on this message board LOVE to give orders to other people about what they can and cannot post?

[Hawkman]

Simpler solution. If you're going to dish it out, then have the guts to take it.

That’s certainly the pot calling the kettle black.

[86WARD]

Nothing but confrontational posts from some low life’s here. Nothing of value.