Russ looks like a top 10 QB slinging the ball, Nothing against Fields and he look decent in his games and got some wins. With Russ my eyes tell me we have a QB to compete against the big boy teams. Thoughts ?
Russ looks like a top 10 QB slinging the ball, Nothing against Fields and he look decent in his games and got some wins. With Russ my eyes tell me we have a QB to compete against the big boy teams. Thoughts ?
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One thing about Russ at QB is that when they get in 2nd and long or 3rd and long, the drive isn't necessarily over. That's where they struggled the past 2 years and the first 6 games. Yeah, they couldn't get a TD in the first half last night but drives were sustained.
Only thing with Russ is that he doesn’t have the legs he used to but he’s been doing very well in that department aside from taking a couple sacks and the fumble, but that happens to every QB.
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Russ has looked good. But I’m going to temper my excitement.
The Jets and Giants are awful teams. Top pick in the draft bad.
Let’s see what happens after the bye week.
you just know Adams wishes he would have went another direction even if that meant staying in Vegas
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Yeah. I suspect Adams and Rodgers aren’t friends as much now.
The Jets are coming apart at the seams. Adams has already called them soft. It is not pretty.
Jets have a top 5 defense. Giants are no slouches on defense either. Wilson has done well against two tough defenses.
Due to injuries the Jets now feature one NFL caliber DB and no pass rush. And a team that’s clearly in free fall.
The Giants were benching dudes during the game last night and the coach and QB were arguing on the sidelines. Another team entering free fall.
I have a great deal of optimism for Wilson moving forward. His play has been shockingly good.
But now he’s going to play winning teams with fully functioning offense and defense. That’s the next test.
Everyone knew going in to these games that the jets and giants had good pass rushing defenses. And we had a makeshift o line on top of it. Whatever happened on the Giants sideline Wilson still faced quite a bit of pressure and he still pushed the ball down the field successfully.
We may be approaching the gauntlet part of the schedule but well have help too (Frazier Holcomb and Sutton).
If Wilson can help the team to a "mini-run" after the bye similar to the one the Broncos experienced with him last season where they beat both the Chiefs and Bills in back-to-back weeks (the Broncos' first win against the Chiefs since 2015 and the Bills game being on the road), I'd be ecstatic.
Wilson actually played pretty well during that stretch also, but the Broncos started the season in a 1-5 hole there was really no climbing out of.
Wilson clearly has the veteran presence and touch on this throws that Fields will either develop or never have. Obviously Fields has the legs over Wilson but at this point you take experience/touch over legs. Wilson was always a good scrambler but at 35 he's clearly not what he used to be. He has to protect that ball better, that late fumble against a good team could have been really bad.
As others have said, RW just beat two really bad teams. The second half is going to be brutal with all 6 division games looming, two VERY good teams in the Eagles/Commanderskins on the road with a Chiefs visit to Pittsburgh to cap it all off. Yes the Brows and Bengals are down but division games regardless of record are ALWAYS battles.
If they can finish with 10 wins or more I'll be impressed.
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I wouldn't agree. He's missing too many throws short. I can tell you how many times I see a ball bouncing to a receiver. That's not to take away from the things he's doing well. And, perhaps, that'll clean up as he continues to knock out the rust. But right now, I wouldn't put him in a top-ten. Then again, I'm not really following any other teams or football in general right now so perhaps he is... but if so, that would be a condemnation on NFL QBs in general. I honestly do not think at this point he is much better than Fields (he is better, but its not an insurmountable difference).
Although, I do have to admit, there is an intangible he has that so far, Fields hasn't shown. I don't know if it is leadership or a confidence level or what, but there is something.
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Russell Wilson is a more technically proficient QB that Ben or Bradshaw. Bradshaw threw lots of picks, but had a world class defense for years that sometimes reversed the bad throws. Ben was 50% gunslinger which is fun to watch, but you need the free wheeling WRs to get the ball.
If you prefer timing throws and disciplined routes, then Wilson is your favorite. He needs one more SB win to cement his place in history.
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This is how you start a game and jump out to an early lead by the best team of its era.
https://youtu.be/lXx06nC2Hs8?si=5af6Ze4zAcshl45k
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Less about the job Russ has done in these last 2 games, more about moving forward.
The Steelers Special Teams has scored 91 of our 187 points scored so far. That's basically half. 20 of our 26 points on Monday Night were scored by Special Teams. The offense is still not getting into the end zone enough.
The special teams didnt score 20 points on sunday but they helped put the offense in positions to score. They and the defense have been doing that the whole season. The difference now is that our passing is over 250 yards. And thats opened up the running game. Under fields we went over 200 yards passing just two out of six times and running game was almost non existent except for Fields runs.
The passing TD’s will come more often, we had two that were called back sunday.
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You may be correct. Sometimes I don't math too good.
vs the Giants, Boz kicked for 14pts and CA3 ran back a punt for another 6pts. ST 20
Russ threw a TD pass to CA3 for 6pts.
20+6=26
Obviously I'm missing something or doing something incorrectly. What is it?
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I think your math is solid.
i see, your counting the fields goals as special teams, I'm not. The way i see it is the field goal is the work off of the offense. Special teams to me is punt/kick returns, blocked punts/kicks.
Yes….field goals are part of special teams. Boz misses all those and we lose the game. We currently have one of the best STs in the NFL. Enjoy it. Danny gets a break.
We won't really be able to tell until we start playing against the big boy teams.
In your world….if we win against the “ big boys” Will you be happy or pissed? You clearly are not a Steelers Football fan.
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This is rich. I'm the one who's had to go through a whole year reading posts on here from guys who were deliriously happy that Kenny Pickett "failed".
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Way to jinx it.
I was consistent , never thought KP8 was worthy of being drafted in the 1st round he was a middle round QB in my eyes from the start of the draft process and that never changed .... I wanted him to succeed once we drafted him , but he proved to be unable to get out of his own way time and time again .... his game had no elite aspects to it thus was not really anything to build on .... sure I pointed out his shortcomings but that doesn't mean I wanted him to fail UNTIL it was abundantly clear that no matter how much I had hoped he could become a quality QB he simply was not going to do that .... then he started the pouting shit and at that point I washed my hands of him as did the team ..... he is now gone so lets please stop talking about him or move such talk the the NFL section where it belongs
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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The point of this argument is that the Steelers maybe drafted a QB too high and hoped the incentive would push him to perform? Drafting a guy high for whatever reason whether it's need or for voodoo reasons and then hoping the player lives up to the hype is a tough way to find a franchise player. The problem is everybody knew KP would never be a SB caliber QB because he lacks the skills. By the time he might be ready TJ Watt will be ready to retire.
I watched the same thing happen when the Panthers offered Kerry Collins an obscene contract at the time hoping the big money would give him confidence. It was obvious the Panthers were desperate for a QB and threw money at him. Too bad money cannot buy an accurate arm and he flopped.
Need to give Tomlin and Khan all the credit for landing Wilson and Fields. KP left town because he knew those 2 were better. Wilson so far looks like the most complete QB the Steelers ever had and I know that is a bold statement. He protects the balls, can read a D and call an audible and there is no on or off the field drama. He also has an accurate arm and tight spiral. Fields is our best back up QB since Terry Hanratty.
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So you admit that you eventually "wanted him to fail". Just as I said.
How come nobody here is accusing YOU of not being a Steelers fan???
[QUOTE=Voice of Reason;869459]This is rich. I'm the one who's had to go through a whole year reading posts on here from guys who were deliriously happy that Kenny Pickett "failed".
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Simple solution…..don’t come here. Many here will be happier and I’m sure you will be. Where in my post did I say anything about KP? I cheered for him as much as anyone. Sorry it didn’t work. That short era is over.
Simpler solution. If you're going to dish it out, then have the guts to take it.
The steelers were a 7-10 team according to you before this season....
I was not a fan of the decision to put Wilson as starter because I did not think that he would be able to turn back the clock a bit to his seattle days but so far he has been great and it was the right decision
Bigger challenge will come in the second half but right now the teams is in the right direction!
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