Schefter wouldn't be surprised if Steelers turn to Russell Wilson

[hawaiiansteeler]

Compared to who? Her opponent?

But then, I don't think we're supposed to be talking politics here.

yes, please try and keep all conversations about Kenny Pickett.

[Voice of Reason]

yes, please try and keep all conversations about Kenny Pickett.

OK. Who is Pickett endorsing?

[hawaiiansteeler]

OK. Who is Pickett endorsing?

Trump, obviously.

Because he never lies...

[El Kabong]

Trump, obviously.

Because he never lies...

Um...who never lies?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Um...who never lies?

I just did.

You can always tell when Trump is lying because his lips are moving.

[pczach]

To me, nothing says "go away" more than bringing politics into a Steelers message board in the football sections of the board.

Places like this are supposed to be an escape from all of that crap.

[hawaiiansteeler]

To me, nothing says "go away" more than bringing politics into a Steelers message board in the football sections of the board.

Places like this are supposed to be an escape from all of that crap.

That's yet another good reason why all posts should stick to discussing Kenny Pickett.

[Voice of Reason]

Trump, obviously.

Because he never lies...

...and doesn't live in his fears.

[DesertSteel]

...and doesn't live in his fears.

He lies a lot, but I don't think he does live in his fears.

[hawaiiansteeler]

[Born2Steel]

Nobody knows the conversations going on within that organization.

[pczach]

Nobody knows the conversations going on within that organization.

Yet somehow you think you do.

All you do is keep telling everyone to trust the organization and to trust Mike Tomlin as if you know what is being said, what is being promised when players come here, or what is being said between these same players and the head coach once they're here. You have told everyone over and over again that Kenny Pickett is a quitter, even though you haven't heard one word of what was said or promised to him in conversations by anyone that is part of the Steelers organization. You have no idea what Mike Tomlin or the organization said to Russell Wilson to talk him into signing with the team. You have no idea what has been said to Justin Fields in private conversations. None at all. Yet you jump on anyone that has an opinion other than what a Steelers representative says on-camera or in an interview that you consider Gospel.

Everyone here can make their own judgements based on the way things play out and using common sense to try to put together the real story. You act as if you are the propaganda machine for the Steelers. Common sense tells us that everything is not what we are hearing from the members of the Steelers organization spouting the company line, or in particular, what the head coach is saying publicly.

All we are getting from Mike Tomlin is what he wants you to think. He is not always telling the whole truth when speaking into a microphone. It doesn't make him an evil person. He is just controlling the message that puts things in the best light for himself and the organization as he is manipulating and handling situations while communicating with players behind the scenes. It's what coaches do all the time at the NFL level. It is part of the job description.

We as fans then judge the coach and organization on how they handled things, the decisions they make, and the results that come from those decisions.

[Born2Steel]

Yet somehow you think you do.

All you do is keep telling everyone to trust the organization and to trust Mike Tomlin as if you know what is being said, what is being promised when players come here, or what is being said between these same players and the head coach once they're here. You have told everyone over and over again that Kenny Pickett is a quitter, even though you haven't heard one word of what was said or promised to him in conversations by anyone that is part of the Steelers organization. You have no idea what Mike Tomlin or the organization said to Russell Wilson to talk him into signing with the team. You have no idea what has been said to Justin Fields in private conversations. None at all. Yet you jump on anyone that has an opinion other than what a Steelers representative says on-camera or in an interview that you consider Gospel.

Everyone here can make their own judgements based on the way things play out and using common sense to try to put together the real story. You act as if you are the propaganda machine for the Steelers. Common sense tells us that everything is not what we are hearing from the members of the Steelers organization spouting the company line, or in particular, what the head coach is saying publicly.

All we are getting from Mike Tomlin is what he wants you to think. He is not always telling the whole truth when speaking into a microphone. It doesn't make him an evil person. He is just controlling the message that puts things in the best light for himself and the organization as he is manipulating and handling situations while communicating with players behind the scenes. It's what coaches do all the time at the NFL level. It is part of the job description.

We as fans then judge the coach and organization on how they handled things, the decisions they make, and the results that come from those decisions.

Really sorry about your problem.

I posted 'NOBODY knows', that would include every one of us.

I sincerely hope you get over Kenny Pickett asking to be traded and becoming an Eagle. I hope this happens soon and you can move on.

The HC says what he says at a press conference and we ALL know there's not 100% transparency. EVERY one of us knows that. WE also know the HC is not running every position group at every practice. The position coaches report to him a lot of that info. When he answers random questions from reporters about individual players WE also know there are things he is willing to speak to and things he is not. That is not manipulation trying to make the organization look good. Tomlin is a players coach and will protect his guys from the media. 'I' think that is something he should be doing and 'I' think Tomlin does s great job with that.

You assume much.

[cubanstogie]

Nobody knows the conversations going on within that organization.

Personally I don’t care about promises to QBs or who starts season on depth chart or Tomlin answering with politicallly correct or vague answers to media. The locker room should be a vault. No HC should go with a player if he’s being outplayed or they aren’t happy with dudes play just because there was a so called promise. I don’t believe promises are made at that level. All we can do is speculate as fans. I still speculate KP was a quitter but who knows.

[pczach]

Really sorry about your problem.

I posted 'NOBODY knows', that would include every one of us.

I sincerely hope you get over Kenny Pickett asking to be traded and becoming an Eagle. I hope this happens soon and you can move on.

The HC says what he says at a press conference and we ALL know there's not 100% transparency. EVERY one of us knows that. WE also know the HC is not running every position group at every practice. The position coaches report to him a lot of that info. When he answers random questions from reporters about individual players WE also know there are things he is willing to speak to and things he is not. That is not manipulation trying to make the organization look good. Tomlin is a players coach and will protect his guys from the media. 'I' think that is something he should be doing and 'I' think Tomlin does s great job with that.

You assume much.

You infer that everyone should believe whatever comes out of the mouths of the Steelers organization.

This has nothing to do with Kenny Pickett. It has everything to do with you telling everyone that they don't know what they are talking about. Only you seem to know the truth. Only whatever you say makes sense according to you.

You know that there is not 100% transparency, yet YOU jump down the throat of anyone that doesn't fall in line with your thinking.

You reveal too much about what you don't know.

[Steeler-in-west]

I dont blame KP for wanting out, i understand it. He should've cooled down and stayed, but i get wanting out.

[hawaiiansteeler]

You reveal too much about what you don't know.

I often discover that I didn't even know what I didn't know.

[Born2Steel]

You infer that everyone should believe whatever comes out of the mouths of the Steelers organization.

This has nothing to do with Kenny Pickett. It has everything to do with you telling everyone that they don't know what they are talking about. Only you seem to know the truth. Only whatever you say makes sense according to you.

You know that there is not 100% transparency, yet YOU jump down the throat of anyone that doesn't fall in line with your thinking.

You reveal too much about what you don't know.

It's actually you that is inferring. And I have never said anything in the neighborhood that I know the truth. I've only ever asserted my opinion like everyone else. I think you saying I "jumped down throats" is a bit of an exaggeration as well. Have you read your own posts? I was actually going to ask you why the hostility. I posted 'Nobody knows the conversations going on within the organization ". I hardly feel like that was so offensive as to make you feel like you needed to take me to task on it. You are revealing much yourself.

Btw, you are the one that brought KP into it. Then say he has nothing to do with it. ???

[Mojouw]

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/10/fi...-iii-the-ball/

Interesting examples of why the team and coaching staff may be having actual football based reasons to sit Fields down.

Shockingly it could have NOTHING to do with "promises" and "feelings" but cold hard facts put on tape during 6 regular season games.

I realize it is hard to accept that a professional sports organization may operate based on logic and reason instead of vibes. since all the lazy reporting is basically "soap-opera for bros" nonsense. But if you stop and look, there are legitimate reasons to replace Fields. Now, will Wilson be able to produce and address those issues? That is an actual football content question. We get to find out on Sunday!

[Born2Steel]

I often discover that I didn't even know what I didn't know.

Pretty sure that goes for the rest of us as well.

- - - Updated - - -

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/10/fi...-iii-the-ball/

Interesting examples of why the team and coaching staff may be having actual football based reasons to sit Fields down.

Shockingly it could have NOTHING to do with "promises" and "feelings" but cold hard facts put on tape during 6 regular season games.

I realize it is hard to accept that a professional sports organization may operate based on logic and reason instead of vibes. since all the lazy reporting is basically "soap-opera for bros" nonsense. But if you stop and look, there are legitimate reasons to replace Fields. Now, will Wilson be able to produce and address those issues? That is an actual football content question. We get to find out on Sunday!

Nice find.

[pczach]

It's actually you that is inferring. And I have never said anything in the neighborhood that I know the truth. I've only ever asserted my opinion like everyone else. I think you saying I "jumped down throats" is a bit of an exaggeration as well. Have you read your own posts? I was actually going to ask you why the hostility. I posted 'Nobody knows the conversations going on within the organization ". I hardly feel like that was so offensive as to make you feel like you needed to take me to task on it. You are revealing much yourself.

Btw, you are the one that brought KP into it. Then say he has nothing to do with it. ???

You give your opinion, and then you berate and make fun of anyone else that doesn't agree with you. You say that people are making stuff up because they don't know, yet their opinions are just as relevant as yours, because you don't know.

If you gave an opinion, then you think you know something. Your opinion is based on something. Is it not?

Pickett quitting was a stance that YOU took. You are the one that states over and over again that he quit and asked for a trade, and that he wasn't lied to about anything.

But hey, you keep being you and trolling people here and acting like you define what is or isn't truth. You don't. You are the one that has been trolling people. You took a false position on a simple, honest question I asked because you said you just wanted to mess with people. That's YOU.

Your not offensive. You're arrogant and you are constantly trying to control what others say. If you truly believe that NOBODY knows anything, then why is your opinion more important or more correct than anyone else's? Why do you try to shout people down that don't think what you do?

[Born2Steel]

You give your opinion, and then you berate and make fun of anyone else that doesn't agree with you. You say that people are making stuff up because they don't know, yet their opinions are just as relevant as yours, because you don't know.

If you gave an opinion, then you think you know something. Your opinion is based on something. Is it not?

Pickett quitting was a stance that YOU took. You are the one that states over and over again that he quit and asked for a trade, and that he wasn't lied to about anything.

But hey, you keep being you and trolling people here and acting like you define what is or isn't truth. You don't. You are the one that has been trolling people. You took a false position on a simple, honest question I asked because you said you just wanted to mess with people. That's YOU.

Your not offensive. You're arrogant and you are constantly trying to control what others say. If you truly believe that NOBODY knows anything, then why is your opinion more important or more correct than anyone else's? Why do you try to shout people down that don't think what you do?

I did do that to you once. Lol!! I had forgotten. I don't remember the details but it was the way you asked something or said something in a post that could be taken 2 ways. I understood what you were saying but made a comment to the other tract. Then, someone else posted to me what you were meaning and I told them I knew and was just trolling your post. I don't think that was about Kenny Pickett though. I don't remember what it was about honestly.

Good grief, dude!!! Is THAT what this is all about? I apologize, sincerely.

[pczach]

I did do that to you once. Lol!! I had forgotten. I don't remember the details but it was the way you asked something or said something in a post that could be taken 2 ways. I understood what you were saying but made a comment to the other tract. Then, someone else posted to me what you were meaning and I told them I knew and was just trolling your post. I don't think that was about Kenny Pickett though. I don't remember what it was about honestly.

Good grief, dude!!! Is THAT what this is all about? I apologize, sincerely.

That did happen, but you intentionally took a position just to piss me off. But that's not what this is about.

This is just how every single time someone questions the owner, the organization, or the head coach in any way, you are always telling people that they don't know what happened and you criticize anybody that has anything negative to say about the Steelers. Hell man, we are here to discuss all this stuff at a Steelers message board. Coming in like a hall monitor at school telling people to get back in line with your thinking is just silly.

[Born2Steel]

[QUOTE=pczach;867896]That did happen, but you intentionally took a position just to piss me off. But that's not what this is about.

This is just how every single time someone questions the owner, the organization, or the head coach in any way, you are always telling people that they don't know what happened and you criticize anybody that has anything negative to say about the Steelers. Hell man, we are here to discuss all this stuff at a Steelers message board. Coming in like a hall monitor at school telling people to get back in line with your thinking is just silly.[/QUOTE

I disagree that I do that. I have tried to get people to stop arguing KP in every thread, keep politics where they belong, and stop turning each thread into some bash Tomlin thread. And I will probably continue to ask for that. But what you are accusing is inaccurate and mostly made up BS. And just silly.

[steelcityboyz]

I quitter.dont blame KP for wanting out, i understand it. He should've cooled down and stayed, but i get wanting out.

Kenny did the right thing for himself leaving here. If KP is a quitter, he's a smart quitter.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Kenny did the right thing for himself leaving here. If KP is a quitter, he's a smart quitter.

yeah, he's so smart he gets to sit on the bench in Philadelphia now.

[steelcityboyz]

yeah, he's so smart he gets to sit on the bench in Philadelphia now.

Yep just like he would be sitting on the bench here. Your point?

[cubanstogie]

Yep just like he would be sitting on the bench here. Your point?

He would’ve started the first six games. Who knows what would’ve happened. 6-0 and the job would’ve been his. I don’t get the loyalty to a guy who was here 2 years with below average results. But hey to each their own.

[Voice of Reason]

That did happen, but you intentionally took a position just to piss me off. But that's not what this is about.

This is just how every single time someone questions the owner, the organization, or the head coach in any way, you are always telling people that they don't know what happened and you criticize anybody that has anything negative to say about the Steelers. Hell man, we are here to discuss all this stuff at a Steelers message board. Coming in like a hall monitor at school telling people to get back in line with your thinking is just silly.

I disagree that I do that. I have tried to get people to stop arguing KP in every thread, keep politics where they belong, and stop turning each thread into some bash Tomlin thread. And I will probably continue to ask for that. But what you are accusing is inaccurate and mostly made up BS. And just silly.

[Dwinsgames]

It's actually you that is inferring. And I have never said anything in the neighborhood that I know the truth. I've only ever asserted my opinion like everyone else. I think you saying I "jumped down throats" is a bit of an exaggeration as well. Have you read your own posts? I was actually going to ask you why the hostility. I posted 'Nobody knows the conversations going on within the organization ". I hardly feel like that was so offensive as to make you feel like you needed to take me to task on it. You are revealing much yourself.

Btw, you are the one that brought KP into it. Then say he has nothing to do with it. ???

he does the same shit to me and a few others then gets all self righteous about it ... ignore is a wonderful tool when nobody quotes them