So it's not Pickens who's the bad guy for loafing during games and giving a half-assed effort. It's the fan base for criticizing him for doing so.Originally Posted by 86WARD
So it's not Pickens who's the bad guy for loafing during games and giving a half-assed effort. It's the fan base for criticizing him for doing so.
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There is a video by Kazora out there on this very subject where he breaks down Pickens on his plays from last week. Is this effort/lack of effort type thing. Give it a watch.So it's not Pickens who's the bad guy for loafing during games and giving a half-assed effort. It's the fan base for criticizing him for doing so.
Romeo Doubs is doing the same stuff in Green Bay.
The common thread is that both Doubs and Pickens were drafted in 2022. This is their third year. Without big statistical production this season, neither guy is going to get that massive extension that can and does happen for "star" players at the end of their 3rd year of their rookie deal. For a variety of reasons, both Doubs and Pickens are in danger of not getting big 2nd contracts from the teams that drafted them.
The common factor is that both guys are freaking out about getting enough volume sent their way to put up the numbers that would allow them to justify the giant second contract they want.
The harsh reality is that NFL players don't do this for the teams they play for. They do it to earn themselves giant piles of cash. Pickens knows that the earlier he can sign a second contract is the quickest path to the most money. No one is giving him a big second contract on the pedestrian career numbers he has, regardless of his talent.
not so sure about that , his numbers have been really good considering he has not yet played in a true modern day NFL offense and its highly debatable if he has had a legit NFL QB throw him the ball yet ... I liked what we seen early from Fields but he hasnt lit it up consistently and has only shown flashes ..so will he reset the market , NO,,, but he could garner 20 mill range based on production in spite of his situation ...3 year 60 million is life changing $$$$
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Sure.
But if I was in my twenties and knew I had a five year window to potentially make all the money I was ever going to make; I’d be frustrated and furious to be mired in a crappy situation and I might be a pissy man baby about it to.
I’m not saying Pickens is handling everything well. I’m just saying it happens across the league and I can get why guys do it.
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GP won't answer the question twice. So LISTEN UP!
Looking at the play again….appears Cowboys dude kinda talks shit. Pickens throws him to the ground.
Instead of this going down in Steelers lore as another example of tough guy stuff, people wrong their hands and freak out because the internet comment threads lit up.
Yeah. Yeah. Best on the scoreboard. Whatever. Sure look the Cowboys CB messed around and found out.
Like Jack Lambert throwing Cliff Harris to the ground after Harris mocked Roy Gerela?
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I would bet, though, that there are guys in the league who handle that in a professional classy manner.
3 years 60 million and one could walk away and live a pretty damn nice life , and I am betting he can get that kind of money on the open market even being a dunce so to speak ... I honestly dont think we are disagreeing here ...at first i didnt think you thought he would get paid , but it seems you do think that too just not market reset money
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Yeah. He can get paid.
He, like every guy ever, wants to make as much as he can.
He’s got to stack stats to do that. 3 targets a game isn’t gonna allow him to do that.
And he’s likely pissed off about it.
Doesn’t seem to bother some guys. But mess with some guys money and they go wonky.
I don’t blame Pickens at all for grabbing that guys facemask. That CB was jawing all game and then went out of his way to be a poor sport. Good for GP.
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Shades of Lambert throwing Cliff Harris to the ground.
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I don't think anyone ever questions Lambert's effort, though.
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F the cowboys.
Well, but Lambert stepped right into a stacked and contending team. There probably wasn't much for him to be frustrated about. I mean, they won the Super Bowl his 1st and 2nd years in the league.
Pickens is stuck being the top weapon on a team that seems pretty clueless how to utilize the talent that he and the rest of the team has.
Lambert was part of one of the greatest dynasties in all of sports history.
Pickens is on a team stuck in 1920's bizarro world football.
I would be pretty pissed too if I was Pickens, he can see 31 other teams in the league that would have a better idea of how to utilize him as opposed to the team that he is on.
This team could have Randy Moss at the peak of his career and they would just waste it.
Pickens isn't the problem.
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Frustration and lack of effort are two different things. I'm going out on a limb and saying if Lambert's circumstances were different, he might get frustrated, but he'd still try to take someone's head off on every play.
100%
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Situations are barely comparable. They both play in the NFL....that is about all that is the same.
They certainly are different things, but everyone responds differently to certain circumstances.
I don't think Pickens is lazy. I think Pickens isn't motivated.
I wouldn't be motivated either if I were in his situation.
This is a garbage offense that is in desperate need to change its philosophy.
This.
I agree with this post. The jawing along with lack of targets would be very frustrating.I know that most probably walk away from the situation,but I understand the constant jawing getting to him. It would sure get to me.
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I applaud GP for standing up for himself, for the team, and for anyone else that guy was bad mouthing. He protected his home. Good for him.
I can sympathize with how Pickens must be feeling, but I still expect him to act like a professional. Don't like it in Pittsburgh? Be a professional and go to another team.
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I bet that's not true.
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Well that doesn’t speak very well of you.
this is the NFL , nobody gets paid to motivate anyone , you should be self motivated by the paycheck you receive which puts you in the top5% earnings makers in the country and by the motivation you can then move into the top 1% after 4-5 years on the Job ... what other Job offers that sort of payday and quick rise to the top ....
Motivation is for kids playing pop warner after that you should be self motivated or your short lived for the game
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Then who is?
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Another one not directed to me...
This is the eternal question. I do not think the last 2 losses can be put at the feet of any 1 coach or player. I see it as a combination of injuries, personnel mistakes, and other teams having film on what we've been trying to do on offense.
Against the Cowboys as example. Or pass rush took a hit in game because of injuries. We became a 3 to 4 rushing and everyone else back in coverage. This is why we saw so much tackle the catch style/them sustain long time consuming drives. 5 OL plus TE/RB beats 3-4 pass rushers most plays. Try to get the turnover, which we did 3 times, or hold them to FGs. The defense was unable to really be themselves vs the Cowboys. This also has me a bit worried vs the Raiders coming up.
I cannot explain our offense. What do we do well on offense? Injuries has kept a rotation on the OL. Injuries have forced PS RBs and OL onto the active roster.
Even with Roman out we have pass catchers. If you only count Pickens and Muth, we have pass catchers. I can understand more why the run game is struggling. Defenses are loading the box and we can't get the ball to our pass catchers? I don't get it. Go down the list of options and somebody should be open. 7-8 in the box means 1on1 with a safety high usually. Somebody is open!!!!
It's a bad combination of things. It's a perfect storm of injuries and timing of injuries. It's players under-performing. It's coaches at a loss to stop the bleeding. Not any one person is at fault.
Hopefully we get back on the winning track this week and can have some positives to talk about all week.
And when I say "players under-performing", I'm talking about the lack of reps together and changes mid-game that we're seeing. Not pointing to lack of effort or guys not doing their job. More like less than potential than that.
The lack of Kenny Pickett would be the main issue!
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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