If racism didn't exist the Dems would have nothing to run on. Dems will never let racism die. Everything they do or say has something to do with race. For example, look no further than White Dudes for Harris.Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
If racism didn't exist the Dems would have nothing to run on. Dems will never let racism die. Everything they do or say has something to do with race. For example, look no further than White Dudes for Harris.
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Californians are actually going to vote in Schiff again. It's amazing how brainwashed and dumb liberals are.
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Do you really believe you can get away with evading the questions with this bullshit?
And did you really grow up in a middle class neighborhood, Kamala?
We could have a back and forth and you could painfully and slowly lay out the Great Replacement Theory as you understand it.
Or we could just skip to the end and we can all go on with our day.
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It's blatantly obvious who's been dividing the country with the racist crap.
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I believe the dems have said they want to fundamentally change the country. There is that. Make of it what you will.
I already painfully and slowly laid out the inconsistencies and faulty logic in your article. And you rapidly and condescendingly evaded answering the points I raised and responded with ridicule and insults. There is no better illustration of the differences in integrity and intelligence between conservatives and liberals than this.
Nah. You didn't do that at all. You pointed out things that do not make sense to you and then decided they were the frayed edges of conspiracy unraveling in the light of day.
Again...what you claim is taking place only makes sense if you believe in the Great Replacement. There is no point discussing or debating such utter nonsense.
Do you have the integrity to admit where you are cribbing your ideas from?
Anybody know where I can go to score some Fema bucks? Are there still some left or did the illegals get all of them?
Register as a Democrat. We get an ATM card sent to us once a month. If you agree to vote more than twice, you get an unlimited one.
How about that! What about the no proof of ID voters? Oh wait,they already got theirs!
What you claim is taking place in Springfield (a town of only 60,000 people "recruiting" 20,000 workers ???) makes no sense at all. Talk about "utter nonsense".
I have no idea what you mean by the Great Replacement. I never heard the term until you just brought it up.
I don't "crib" ideas. I think you're indulging in some projection here.
And you're still using your usual tactic of trying to evade answering the inconvenient questions I asked by using ridicule. What you don't understand is that by doing this you're actually confirming and calling attention to the fact that you're unable to rebut anything I said.
How much do the "harvesters" who create thousands of Democrat votes out of thin air get?
A guarantee of no proof of ID required.
Like I said....all of your questions have been answered by a variety of places previously,What you claim is taking place in Springfield (a town of only 60,000 people "recruiting" 20,000 workers ???) makes no sense at all. Talk about "utter nonsense".
I have no idea what you mean by the Great Replacement. I never heard the term until you just brought it up.
I don't "crib" ideas. I think you're indulging in some projection here.
And you're still using your usual tactic of trying to evade answering the inconvenient questions I asked by using ridicule. What you don't understand is that by doing this you're actually confirming and calling attention to the fact that you're unable to rebut anything I said.
Not my job to spoon feed it to you.
Here is the first bite....but I suppose the local city paper is just a tool of the global elites....https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/n...C6TGZGAEKE2JU/
"Mayor Rob Rue told residents at the last commission meeting the city did not know about the possibility of a large immigrant population coming but said a “network of businesses knew what was coming.” He said the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team that formed last fall has discovered the possibility companies “knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border.”"
As to your cribbing ideas....I guess it is worse than I thought. You are repeating the major planks and tentpole ideas of a nonsense theory without even realizing the algorithm dosed you with it.
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Don't know. I haven't levelled up enough to get into those meetings.
Hopefully after I pass my Marxist-Leninist reading test and can successfully recite the major tenets of Mao; I will get into the next tier of operatives.
So exciting!
Finally, at least a beginning of answering the first question that I asked. So it was supposedly a "network of businesses" that started the process rather than the city government.. Of course even the mayor doesn't know this for sure, since he said it was only a "possibility". But for the sake of argument let's explore this "possibility". First, what was the nature of this "effort"? Note that the quote doesn't specifically mention Haitians, only "individuals who were crossing the border". How did it end up being only Haitians? Did the "network of businesses" that did this request only Haitians? If so, why? If not, then as I said, why did it end up being only Haitians?
Also, if the businesses "made an effort" to bring in these people, how exactly did they do that? Who did they talk to? What persons or government agencies have the power to bring these people in? From reading the rest of the article, it appears that the U.S. Department of Immigration and the Department of Homeland Security were deeply involved, which is what many of us had suspected.
Finally, we get back to the inconvenient Elephant In The Room question of why a city of only 60,000 people would request 20,000 more people. Even if you buy the story that a "network of businesses" in Springfield was asking for these people, are you really dumb enough to think that these businesses in such a small town asked for or had openings for 20,000 workers? So then why did 20,000 people wind up coming in?
Congratulations !!! Planks? Tentpole ideas? Algorithms? Dosed? A word salad that Kamala would be proud of.
Finally, at least a beginning of answering the first question that I asked. So it was supposedly a "network of businesses" that started the process rather than the city government.. Of course even the mayor doesn't know this for sure, since he said it was only a "possibility". But for the sake of argument let's explore this "possibility". First, what was the nature of this "effort"? Note that the quote doesn't specifically mention Haitians, only "individuals who were crossing the border". How did it end up being only Haitians? Did the "network of businesses" that did this request only Haitians? If so, why? If not, then as I said, why did it end up being only Haitians?
Also, if the businesses "made an effort" to bring in these people, how exactly did they do that? Who did they talk to? What persons or government agencies have the power to bring these people in? From reading the rest of the article, it appears that the U.S. Department of Immigration and the Department of Homeland Security were deeply involved, which is what many of us had suspected.
Finally, we get back to the inconvenient Elephant In The Room question of why a city of only 60,000 people would request 20,000 more people. Even if you buy the story that a "network of businesses" in Springfield was asking for these people, are you really dumb enough to think that these businesses in such a small town asked for or had openings for 20,000 workers? So then why did 20,000 people wind up coming in?
Congratulations !!! Planks? Tentpole ideas? Algorithms? Dosed? A word salad that Kamala would be proud of.
Again, your inability to understand how migrant communities form and perpetuate is not my fault nor a signal of a vast conspiracy.Finally, at least a beginning of answering the first question that I asked. So it was supposedly a "network of businesses" that started the process rather than the city government.. Of course even the mayor doesn't know this for sure, since he said it was only a "possibility". But for the sake of argument let's explore this "possibility". First, what was the nature of this "effort"? Note that the quote doesn't specifically mention Haitians, only "individuals who were crossing the border". How did it end up being only Haitians? Did the "network of businesses" that did this request only Haitians? If so, why? If not, then as I said, why did it end up being only Haitians?
Also, if the businesses "made an effort" to bring in these people, how exactly did they do that? Who did they talk to? What persons or government agencies have the power to bring these people in? From reading the rest of the article, it appears that the U.S. Department of Immigration and the Department of Homeland Security were deeply involved, which is what many of us had suspected.
Finally, we get back to the inconvenient Elephant In The Room question of why a city of only 60,000 people would request 20,000 more people. Even if you buy the story that a "network of businesses" in Springfield was asking for these people, are you really dumb enough to think that these businesses in such a small town asked for or had openings for 20,000 workers? So then why did 20,000 people wind up coming in?
Congratulations !!! Planks? Tentpole ideas? Algorithms? Dosed? A word salad that Kamala would be proud of.
No one brought these people in. They are/were already here. You can get from Haiti to Florida on a Styrofoam cooler and piece of wood if you really want to. Let alone a simple fishing boat. I do not know the ins and outs of the asylum process. But I have to assume that if you are granted asylum because people are going to kill your family...maybe the might give you a ride?
There are over 300K Haitian legal refugees and migrants in the US. As immigrants have done since the dawn of time....they move to seek jobs and community. An initial wave was recruited to Springfield to fill jobs that no one in the local community was (I am just guessing here but it has been the case for centuries) willing to do at the low wage point the company was offering. Then they get established. Tell their friends and family. More people move. Churches, grocery stores, and other Haitian things spring up. More people move there. Everyone likes to be around people that think, act, and talk like they do. Eat the same food. Laugh at the same jokes, etc. So the companies probably needed an initial influx of low cost workers and then those workers established the things that would attract second and third wave movements that have nothing to do with the local employers.
Little Italy. Chinatown. Little Haiti.
This is not a new phenomenon. I believe you have mentioned you are in the western PA area. Read up on the waves of different groups that moved there over the last 200 years. They did so for the exact same reasons. Some way or another a handful of dudes from Group A got jobs digging coal, refining iron, or making steel. Then they told all their buddies. Their buddies moved there and got jobs too. Suddenly there was an enclave community of Group A in a new place. Attracted more people of that group. Many of which no longer were seeking employment through the original employer. They were getting other jobs or creating their own.
You can read about the same thing happening in the Roman Empire. You can read about the same thing happening in the Babylonian Empire.
Heck, we all speak English because a bunch of dudes got on boats, left Germany, and moved to this tiny island none of them had ever heard of or seen before because all their buddies said there was good land there.
And now FEMA is out of money because ... well because they used it to pay for illegal migrants. Disgusting.
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Why grant them asylum? Send them elsewhere. CA and Mexico won't take them. Gee, I wonder why.
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Oh really? From the very article in the local Springfield paper that you quoted:
So they weren't "already here". They came in from Mexico with a lot of help from the people in OUR GOVERNMENT, which includes supplying them with mobile apps (how did they get the phones and internet connections to use the apps?), a special "parole program" just for them (isn't "parole" for people who have broken the law?) which leads to a special "temporary protected status" just for them, and a very convenient ruling from Homeland Security watering down the "temporary" requirements of their protected status. The way was deliberately greased for these people by our government from the getgo, just as I and many others have said.Katie Kersh, senior attorney with Advocates for Basic Legal Equality, said many Haitians coming here go to Mexico and get a CBP One, a mobile app that allows users to request appointments related to immigration. That allows them to be legally processed into the U.S. through what’s called the parole program. They then typically obtain Temporary Protected Status, or TPS, which allows them to temporarily stay in the country. Others may apply for asylum, which is evaluated based on a person’s individual situation and if they were persecuted or have a fear of persecution, or for both TPS and asylum.
This summer, Homeland Security officials extended the temporary legal status for Haitians already in the United States, which will allow hundreds of immigrants in Springfield and the surrounding areas to apply to remain until February 2026.
And while I can't prove it, I am very skeptical that so many people of the same ethnic group amazingly all found their way to the same small town just by "word of mouth" rather than being deliberately guided there by the same government people and organizational groups who brought them in.
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Lets not forget.......
This is from 2021 and it's still happening.
But hey, no one is bringing them here.
It's that lack of understanding how communities are formed.
https://cis.org/Bensman/Oped-Biden-S...y-US-Past-YearBiden secretly has let 221,456 migrants fly into the US in past year
Illegal migrants aren’t just overwhelming the border — President Biden is flying them secretly to airports around the country.
More than 200,000 people from four countries have landed over the past year, according to data obtained by the Center for Immigration Studies through a Freedom of Information Act request.
In January, Biden’s Department of Homeland Security began implementing the cornerstone of its current strategy: a series of new “lawful pathways” measures designed to decrease the historically high crowds at the southern border before they become a political problem.
DHS cajoles tens of thousands of intending illegal border-crossers per month to instead go on the CBP One smartphone application, and make an appointment with US officials at land ports of entry instead of crossing illegally.
After making an appointment, DHS invites these inadmissible aliens to walk over to the American side at the land ports, where US Customs officials quickly “parole” them in, allowing them to travel to a city of their choice in the nation’s interior.
But one of the least noticed, mysterious and potentially most controversial of the new rechanneling programs that use the CBP One app allows migrants to take commercial passenger flights from foreign countries straight to their American cities of choice, flying right over the border — and even over Mexico.
For this measure, Cubans, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Haitians and Colombians request “advance travel authorizations” through the same CBP One mobile app and take commercial flights (“at their own expense”) directly into US airports, where US Customs officers parole them into the nation, sight unseen, and in numbers publicly unknown.
Biden officials have rarely, if ever, spoken of this flight program in the year since implementing it, perhaps mindful of the political outcry over the late-night “ghost flights” that DHS stealthily arranges to ferry migrant children into various airports.
But records show that between late October 2022 and mid-September 2023, the administration approved a total of 221,456 Venezuelans, Haitians, Cubans and Nicaraguans for “travel mode: air.”
The Biden administration did not release the numbers of Colombians or Ukrainians approved to use the direct-flight parole program, meaning the number is even higher.
And recently, the administration added Hondurans, El Salvadorans and Guatemalans to the direct-flight program.
CBP has redacted and withheld the locations of the 43 interior ports of entry that have been utilized by this direct-flight program, claiming its release would harm law-enforcement techniques or procedures.
The administration has proven reluctant to provide any meaningful data about its vaunted CBP One-based border strategy, which allows mass parole of inadmissible aliens who would otherwise cross illegally.
The limited data that was released about the direct flights shows that, of the four nationalities, Haitians flew into US airports in the greatest numbers from January through mid-September, a total of 76,582
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Mobile phones and internet connectivity are cheap as heck anywhere in the world besides the US.
When I was in India you could get a phone and a connection for less than a couple bucks a day. You could also basically rent an internet connected phone for like an hour or so for basically nothing.
This is all falling under the heading of things you personally do not understand because they fall outside your experiences. That is fine. Lots of stuff we each don't understand. But instead of seeking knowledge and answers, you have jumped straight into deep conspiratorial waters involving shadowy agencies and murky agendas. Put the YouTube pipe down and pick up some books.
For instance....here is where you can learn about parole and have some of your questions answered....including the fact that in immigration, parolees have financial sponsors (like a job) in place....https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...0authorization.
Learnin' stuff is fun! Give it a whirl!
Everything aside it's obvious this administration wants them here. It can be spun in whatever direction somebody wants but the numbers don't lie. The D.C. club invites them in,gives them what they want and is counting on them for census and election results. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Spin away.
I HAVE been seeking knowledge and answers, from you, but getting them from you is like pulling teeth. However, because I have been pressing you, you have finally given me information that actually supports my view of the situation and contradicts yours. For example:
1. The implication by you and and the first article you quoted that the 20,000 Haitians in Springfield were "recruited" there has been debunked by you yourself. Your revised explanation is that only a relatively small number of Haitians were actually recruited to Springfield, and that the rest came there on their own due to word of mouth among the Haitian community.
2. Next to be debunked was your statement that "No one brought these people in. They are/were already here.". The very article from the Springfield newspaper that YOU quoted describes in detail the process by which various government agencies such as the Department of Immigration and the Department of Homeland Security greased the way for the Haitians to come in by providing a special "parole" program for them which gave them a special "Temporary Protected Status" which turned out to be not quite so temporary.
3. Your latest claim, which implies that immigration parolees are required have a job in place, is also debunked by the very link you have provided. The article states that parolees are only required to have "proof that the noncitizen will have a means of support while in the United States, often requiring that a parolee have a sponsor who agrees to provide financial support for the duration of the parole authorization period while the parolee is in the United States". So a parolee doesn't have to have a job at all, only a rich sponsor who agrees to pay his expenses. And we all know that there are Democrat millionaires and billionaires who are ready, willing, and able to pay those expenses for a great number of these people in exchange for their Democrat votes.
Isn't it amazing that the more information you supply on this situation, the more it shows that I was right and you were wrong?
Friend, if you are seeking knowledge and answers from me, you are more turned around than anyone has ever been.I HAVE been seeking knowledge and answers, from you, but getting them from you is like pulling teeth. However, because I have been pressing you, you have finally given me information that actually supports my view of the situation and contradicts yours. For example:
1. The implication by you and and the first article you quoted that the 20,000 Haitians in Springfield were "recruited" there has been debunked by you yourself. Your revised explanation is that only a relatively small number of Haitians were actually recruited to Springfield, and that the rest came there on their own due to word of mouth among the Haitian community.
2. Next to be debunked was your statement that "No one brought these people in. They are/were already here.". The very article from the Springfield newspaper that YOU quoted describes in detail the process by which various government agencies such as the Department of Immigration and the Department of Homeland Security greased the way for the Haitians to come in by providing a special "parole" program for them which gave them a special "Temporary Protected Status" which turned out to be not quite so temporary.
3. Your latest claim, which implies that immigration parolees are required have a job in place, is also debunked by the very link you have provided. The article states that parolees are only required to have "proof that the noncitizen will have a means of support while in the United States, often requiring that a parolee have a sponsor who agrees to provide financial support for the duration of the parole authorization period while the parolee is in the United States". So a parolee doesn't have to have a job at all, only a rich sponsor who agrees to pay his expenses. And we all know that there are Democrat millionaires and billionaires who are ready, willing, and able to pay those expenses for a great number of these people in exchange for their Democrat votes.
Isn't it amazing that the more information you supply on this situation, the more it shows that I was right and you were wrong?
I don't have them for you. I make crap up as I go along, just like the rest of us. All I know is that there was not a massive shadowy conspiracy to take over some small shithole town in Ohio with people from Haiti. The easier thing to do would have just been to let the town die off.
Two links I sent your way were not the end all be all. Just examples that 2 minutes on Google can create a wealth of information that does not require a cabal of billionaires to explain. If you are up to it...Google "Great Replacement Theory" it will be right up your alley. Might as well get the uncut dope rather than the watered down version.
Interesting that you say that now, because you have spent most of this thread CLAIMING that you have knowledge and answers about the Haitian presence in Springfield, most if not all of which turned out to be wrong.
Yet all the information in the very links and articles that YOU provided shows that there is.
Don't need to Google anything, I've got my own Great Replacement Theory. Which is that Donald Trump replacing Joe Biden as President of the United States would indeed be a Great Replacement, not only for our country but for the world.
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