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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He’s wrecked or “tried to wreck” so many QBs…

    Patrick Mahomes
    Kyler Murray
    Caleb Williams
    Jayden Daniels
    Good point!

    I really thought he’d make some positive noise when he came to the NFL.

    WHOOPS.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Is it Tomlin's fault that Wilson is hobbled?
    It's Tomlin's fault for bringing in a 36 year old QB as his main man without realizing that there was a good chance he could be injured.

    Wilson injured himself (a) warming up on the first day in training camp, and (b) in a non-contact practice. Even assuming that he comes back in a week or two, how long do you think he'll last when he starts playing in actual games?

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

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    I really thought he’d make some positive noise when he came to the NFL.

    WHOOPS.
    When they mentioned him as an OC, that was worst case scenario for me. Still would take him over Canada but jeez…that would’ve been painful!


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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    We need the chicken who spins a roulette wheel to call the offense.
    All Defense!

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Coaching works…

    Just be happy that Kliff Kingsbury isn’t the OC!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    hah! He should've stayed in Thailand.

    Remember all the fanfare he came into the league with? Now he is gonna wreck his second young QB.

    I will admit I thought he would do well as an OC. Not so much...
    So, what exactly is wrong with the Kingsbury/Daniels pairing??

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    So, what exactly is wrong with the Kingsbury/Daniels pairing??
    So far,so good but I am not sure it will work in the long run....we will see I guess but my problem with the offense of Kliff,this is too much finesse,not enough toughness.You need both in the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler
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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    3-0 .... there is no better case , top seed in the afc after 3 weeks when guys like Pete Prisco said we was the worst team in our division
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    So, what exactly is wrong with the Kingsbury/Daniels pairing??
    It certainly worked last night.

    See how it goes from here.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel;[emoji[emoji[emoji638
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    Perhaps he’s turned the long history of ruining QBs around. There are a few articles out there how he is approaching Daniels a little bit differently so maybe it will work out for the two of them.


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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Daniels is going to be the best of the 2024 QB class, surpassing Caleb Williams. Louis Riddick has been beating that drum since before the draft. I agree with him. That was his THIRD game in the NFL!!

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Daniels is going to be the best of the 2024 QB class, surpassing Caleb Williams. Louis Riddick has been beating that drum since before the draft. I agree with him. That was his THIRD game in the NFL!!
    Yeah,he is special right now!

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    I watched the game last night. Daniels has some good talent around him. McLaurin, Robinson, Ekeler (Didn't realize they picked him up),Ertz and Noah Brown made some small but key catches and L.Mccaffrey. They will be fun to watch. They need help on defense

    On the other side the Bungles defense sucks. They could not stop Daniels. No punts and limited penalties for both teams.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Daniels is going to be the best of the 2024 QB class, surpassing Caleb Williams. Louis Riddick has been beating that drum since before the draft. I agree with him. That was his THIRD game in the NFL!!
    I also think Daniels will be a very good NFL QB. But don't forget last night was against the Bengals defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    I watched the game last night. Daniels has some good talent around him. McLaurin, Robinson, Ekeler (Didn't realize they picked him up),Ertz and Noah Brown made some small but key catches and L.Mccaffrey. They will be fun to watch. They need help on defense

    On the other side the Bungles defense sucks. They could not stop Daniels. No punts and limited penalties for both teams.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I also think Daniels will be a very good NFL QB. But don't forget last night was against the Bengals defense.
    Up until last night, their DC was heralded as a guru.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Up until last night, their DC was heralded as a guru.
    One good half against the Chiefs. He's been coasting off of that since then.



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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Up until last night, their DC was heralded as a guru.
    Having a good DC doesn't mean you are a good defense. Personnel matters. This defense has been bad so far this season. The Panthers may get to 2-2 this weekend.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Having a good DC doesn't mean you are a good defense. Personnel matters. This defense has been bad so far this season. The Panthers may get to 2-2 this weekend.
    Caleb Williams hasn’t exactly been playing against a who’s who of defenses and has looked horrible in doing so. Daniels was impressive regardless of who it was against.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Geeee and here I was thinking that this was a Fields thread…..My bad.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    Geeee and here I was thinking that this was a Fields thread…..My bad.
    What's wrong with you, why would you do that?

    It's much more accurate to assume that it's always a Kenny Pickett thread...

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    What's wrong with you, why would you do that?

    It's much more accurate to assume that it's always a Kenny Pickett thread...

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Russell Wilson is no Byron Leftwich, but at some point he is going to see the field. Keep riding Fields who did not necessarily prepare to be the starter in pre-season. If he continues to protect the ball and improve each week we could have a good young starting QB that you can build an offense around.

    He needs to also avoid injuries and make smart decisions.

    Getting Rid of Pickett and all the other dead wood that would never be champions was something new that management did. Normally they would roll and extra season or two before giving them the hook when it was obvious that they were never going to be good. A good QB wins early aka Big Ben off the bench after Tommy Maddox went down. Brad was a little slow because he threw a lot of picks, but he was the best Super Bowl QB in that ERA.
    All Defense!

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    What's wrong with you, why would you do that?

    It's much more accurate to assume that it's always a Kenny Pickett thread...
    Notice that you-know-who has been mentioned several times in this thread, but not by me.

    Just who is it again who's obsessed with him?

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    I'm actually surprised that I find myself getting comfortable with the thought of Justin Fields as the QB moving forward. When this whole thing started I was 100% fully in the Russell Wilson camp. I didn't even want Fields. I wanted Kenny to sit behind Russ and learn how to run the offense. I honestly thought that was the best case for 2024. I was actually disappointed when Kenny left and we brought in Justin Fields. Disappointed and angry, both at Kenny for quitting. But now, today, I honestly think this is going to work out better long term with Fields playing QB and Russ backing him up for when we need that veteran presence.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Notice that you-know-who has been mentioned several times in this thread, but not by me.

    Just who is it again who's obsessed with him?
    All Kenny references are either from you or directed at you.

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    Justin Fields case for QB[emoji23[emoji44][emoji45]]

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    I feel the same. I definitely didn’t want Wilson and when they said they were getting Fields and Pickett whined his way out, I felt a little better. Watching Fields play these last three weeks and develop into a better QB than he was in Chicago has been fun to watch. I’m hoping this week they unleash him a little more…would like to see some good yardage and a couple TDs.


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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

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    All Kenny references are either from you or directed at you.
    So when you guys mention Kenny again and again and again, it's MY fault.

    Actually, most of the Kenny references on this board have nothing to do with me. It's just the Good Ol' Boys and the Kenny-bashers patting themselves on the back, bragging because they think they were "right", and engaging in an orgy of I-told-you-so's.

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    Fields is putting this team on his back

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    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Justin Fields case for QB1

    the story of this game is the defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down .... Flacco 6-7 on 3rd down for 6 first downs
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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