Justin Fields case for QB1

[steelcityboyz]

He has even less of a future with the Eagles. How's that smart?

Well, No one knows what kind of future he has with the Eagles. Time will tell, maybe he get's released, maybe traded,maybe Hurts get's injured and he comes in and does well Who knows? Just too many scenarios can happen I don't hate on KP I wish him well.

[pczach]

Well, No one knows what kind of future he has with the Eagles. Time will tell, maybe he get's released, maybe traded,maybe Hurts get's injured and he comes in and does well Who knows? Just too many scenarios can happen I don't hate on KP I wish him well.

Yep

Nobody has any idea how this all will play out. We are 12 games removed from Pickett being here. Anyone that claims to know is lying to themselves.

Jalen Hurts was playing at a less than average level for almost 12 games between last season and the first 5-6 games this season. He finally got it going and the Eagles are rolling now. Pickett is one play away from getting another shot as a starting quarterback in the NFL. He is currently learning a new offense that he has hardly gotten any experience playing in.

Way too many people think they have a quarterback figured out after watching them play a few games. It doesn't work that way.....even with seasoned veterans that are already supposed to understand offenses and have the ability to read defenses and identify what defenses are trying to do to him....even though that quarterback has seen everything imaginable over 16 seasons of being a starting NFL quarterback.

Defenses watch tape and figure out the weaknesses in offenses, in protections, in quarterbacks, in tendencies, and then they adjust how they play against that team or that player. It takes time to really know how even a seasoned quarterback fits into a scheme and executes an NFL offense.

[86WARD]

Yep

Nobody has any idea how this all will play out. We are 12 games removed from Pickett being here. Anyone that claims to know is lying to themselves.

Jalen Hurts was playing at a less than average level for almost 12 games between last season and the first 5-6 games this season. He finally got it going and the Eagles are rolling now. Pickett is one play away from getting another shot as a starting quarterback in the NFL. He is currently learning a new offense that he has hardly gotten any experience playing in.

Way too many people think they have a quarterback figured out after watching them play a few games. It doesn't work that way.....even with seasoned veterans that are already supposed to understand offenses and have the ability to read defenses and identify what defenses are trying to do to him....even though that quarterback has seen everything imaginable over 16 seasons of being a starting NFL quarterback.

Defenses watch tape and figure out the weaknesses in offenses, in protections, in quarterbacks, in tendencies, and then they adjust how they play against that team or that player. It takes time to really know how even a seasoned quarterback fits into a scheme and executes an NFL offense.

Usually takes a few seasons.

CJ Stroud…this season…looks like he’s really not as great as everyone thought.

[Born2Steel]

Back to Fields.
I feels like Russ will get the 51% starts (best shot at winning now, also keeping the 4th pick). But I also believe we now see Russ start to become average at best, due to age or general meh..
I beleive Tomlin really wants Fields to develop into his fullest capacity. He will give that a serious shot
I do too

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I also think the FO and Tomlin are behind Justin Fields getting signed this offseason and going forward with Fields as the QB1. I also think there will be some conversation with Russ about expectations from both sides and possibly signing Russ to stay on as the veteran backup/mentor. The guys in charge of putting the team together seem to like the dynamic in the QB room, and will probably try to somehow maintain it.

Very possible we see more Justin Fields this week. The Bengals give up yards by the bunches. Fields can excel vs the Bengals. Just my opinion.

[oneforthetoe]

So, I think it was Fitipaldo that mentioned Russ at 40 million over 3 years. So would you rather have Russ at 40 million a year for 3 years or Justin at 20 million per year for 3 years? How much does your opinion change if Russ leads the Steelers to a playoff victory?

The issue for me comes down to whether you think Fields will actually develop into player capable of passing a team to big victories on a consistent basis. Much rather have the younger player - all things being equal. However, the money savings is irrelevant if Justin has a ceiling below that level. If he does have that ceiling, then you're just wasting some great defensive player careers, and we might as well just throw the 40 million at Russ (which isn't really that much money for a starting QB) and hope that we get two good years out of him.

[86WARD]

I’m thinking it doesn’t make a difference if they don’t fix the O-Line. I don’t think the line is as bad as it’s been but it’s not that improved either. There’s clearly a lot of talent on the line. I just don’t think they are prepared or coached well enough.

[oneforthetoe]

I’m thinking it doesn’t make a difference if they don’t fix the O-Line. I don’t think the line is as bad as it’s been but it’s not that improved either. There’s clearly a lot of talent on the line. I just don’t think they are prepared or coached well enough.

What I don't get is last year the offensive line got better at the end of the year. I keep waiting for that and it doesn't seem to be happening.

[Steeler-in-west]

I’m thinking it doesn’t make a difference if they don’t fix the O-Line. I don’t think the line is as bad as it’s been but it’s not that improved either. There’s clearly a lot of talent on the line. I just don’t think they are prepared or coached well enough.

have to agree, Jones, Seumalo, Frazier, Fautena, McCormack/Moore should be a good line. Two guys are on IR, but still Jones and Moore struggle. Communication is an issue (Frazier?) They dont use Najee in pass protection help enough. I think they can do better with better O line coaching. Almost 4 sacks a game in the last four.

[Steeler-in-west]

Kenny saw the writing on the wall, there was no future for him with the steelers. Kenny made a business decision for himself just like so many other nfl players do. Call him selfish,not a team player, a big crybaby, whatever you want, I call him smart.

Yeah, we as fans dont know all the details of what went on behind the scenes and what was said. I think the refusing to suit up story is just a rumor (never substantiated). I thought KP shouldve stayed but i dont know the whole story.

[El Kabong]

I'm dubious that Fields will ever be as good a QB as we need.

[Voice of Reason]

Way too many people think they have a quarterback figured out after watching them play a few games. It doesn't work that way.....

Hey, common sense like this isn't allowed on this board.

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I just don’t think they are prepared or coached well enough.

When I say that, you tell me I'm not a real Steeler fan.

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Yeah, we as fans dont know all the details of what went on behind the scenes and what was said. I think the refusing to suit up story is just a rumor (never substantiated).

FINALLY !!!

Thank you.

[86WARD]

have to agree, Jones, Seumalo, Frazier, Fautena, McCormack/Moore should be a good line. Two guys are on IR, but still Jones and Moore struggle. Communication is an issue (Frazier?) They dont use Najee in pass protection help enough. I think they can do better with better O line coaching. Almost 4 sacks a game in the last four.

I think they need a better O-Line Coach and they'll probably get one here in the near future. Tomlin just doesn't address that sort of thing soon enough in my opinion. I'll give him credit, he doesn't panic hire and fire but in some cases, the case is crystal clear that its not working out.

There has been plenty of time for the O-Line to 'gel' but they just aren't coming together and Jones is just regressing rapidly. To Meyer's credit, Dan Moore is playing much better but the whole line just looks lost out there for most of the game...to the naked eye. Wilson doesn't help at times, but there are times that he does help...same with Fields.

[steelcityboyz]

I think they need a better O-Line Coach and they'll probably get one here in the near future. Tomlin just doesn't address that sort of thing soon enough in my opinion. I'll give him credit, he doesn't panic hire and fire but in some cases, the case is crystal clear that its not working out.

There has been plenty of time for the O-Line to 'gel' but they just aren't coming together and Jones is just regressing rapidly. To Meyer's credit, Dan Moore is playing much better but the whole line just looks lost out there for most of the game...to the naked eye. Wilson doesn't help at times, but there are times that he does help...same with Fields.

Until they all get on the same page Wilson and Fields will continue to run for their lives. I don't know the answer, maybe Tomlin needs to focus on the O-line and it's coaches a whole lot more? Maybe he is and it's just shitty o-line coaching.

[pepsyman1]

Until they all get on the same page Wilson and Fields will continue to run for their lives. I don't know the answer, maybe Tomlin needs to focus on the O-line and it's coaches a whole lot more? Maybe he is and it's just shitty o-line coaching.

unfortunately, the 0-line started seeing drop off as soon as Munchak left. We still had a pretty talented group but the difference was apparent. They haven't had any strong 0-line coaching since. A lot of experiments in who they've put in the position. I think that's Tomlin's MO frequently. We rarely see really strong coaches working under Tomlin.

[El Kabong]

And now we can update to

Russell Wilson: 10 TD's in 6 games
Kenny Pickett: 13 TD's in 25 games

[DesertSteel]

And now we can update to

Russell Wilson: 10 TD's in 6 games
Kenny Pickett: 13 TD's in 25 games

But why is this in a Justin Fields thread? Lol

[El Kabong]

But why is this in a Justin Fields thread? Lol

Because VOR was trying to say the QB room this year isn't any better than the QB room last year.

[86WARD]

And now we can update to

Russell Wilson: 10 TD's in 6 games
Kenny Pickett: 13 TD's in 25 games

How’s that yardage looking?

[ALLD]

I think they need to come up with a better package on 4th and short instead of putting in Fields to handoff or run around the edge. It makes no sense for him to pass it. They need to go back and watch some Kordell Stewart highlights. That dude would have been in the HoF if he stayed a Slash.

[86WARD]

I think they need to come up with a better package on 4th and short instead of putting in Fields to handoff or run around the edge. It makes no sense for him to pass it. They need to go back and watch some Kordell Stewart highlights. That dude would have been in the HoF if he stayed a Slash.

Agree. There’s no threat to the pass. Unless they have it hidden for a special day.

[Mojouw]

With as badly as Fields snookered the Bengals on the final RPO; they don’t need another play.

That poor rookie CB just couldn’t believe it when Fields pulled the ball back and took off.

[pczach]

With as badly as Fields snookered the Bengals on the final RPO; they don’t need another play.

That poor rookie CB just couldn’t believe it when Fields pulled the ball back and took off.

That poor rookie CB was the only human in existence that didn't know Fields was going to run with it!

[Mojouw]

That poor rookie CB was the only human in existence that didn't know Fields was going to run with it!

No doubt.

I will give Fields credit, he rode that option handoff long enough that he got every single defensive player to crash inside and give up the edge.

As soon as he pulled the ball, it was clear he had it easily.

I know it is not the world’s most complex play, but it was well executed in a key moment.

Routine plays routinely and all that.

[86WARD]

It was great execution.

[Voice of Reason]

Because VOR was trying to say the QB room this year isn't any better than the QB room last year.

How many games did last year's QB room produce with no touchdowns?

[cubanstogie]

How many games did last year's QB room produce with no touchdowns?

You’re a lost cause. Are you seriously trying to debate last years QB corps in same league as this years. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your narrative. I imagine you still want Tomlin fired as well. Apparently in your 70 plus years of life you’ve never heard of the term “cut your losses “.

[DesertSteel]

You’re a lost cause. Are you seriously trying to debate last years QB corps in same league as this years. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your narrative. I imagine you still want Tomlin fired as well. Apparently in your 70 plus years of life you’ve never heard of the term “cut your losses “.

He’s like a 2-year-old

[polamalubeast]

Gave me a break....Last year after 14 games,the steelers had their worst PPG on offense since 1970.And no I will not gave credit to Pickett for the 70 yards run of Warren in Cleveland,otherwise this game would been much worst on offense.This game were so bad that Canada was finally fired 2 days after....The steelers had no chance to win in the last few years when the opponents had 20 points or more in a game

Many in the offseason was talking about the great game that Pickett had in the first game that Canada was fired and it would been 23 points if Johnson would catch the TD(only to have 3 points in the first half in the next game against a poor cardinals defense)....Guess what,they score 44 points against the same bengals defense on sunday

[Steeler-in-west]

Routine plays routinely and all that.

You mean the quote by Noll? “Champions execute the ordinary plays better than everyone else”…..

[tube517]

You mean the quote by Noll? “Champions execute the ordinary plays better than everyone else”…..

Nollism?

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