Wow, you're defending this POS human? I would be embarrassed for raising such a vile human. The same one that beat up women.Originally Posted by Mojouw
Wow, you're defending this POS human? I would be embarrassed for raising such a vile human. The same one that beat up women.
I do not believe he is defending the vile human ....
I believe he is saying what is right and what is wrong in THIS case ......
the two can and should be mutually exclusive
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
What the man said. Saying the cops were wrong isn’t saying beating women is cool. That’s ridiculous.
Dude it is cold as heck where I live. I have totally handed a cop my documents and then rolled the window up as he walked back to his squad car.
And NOTHING happened because I’m not young, black, and driving a quarter million dollar car.
I’m not aware of a single state statute anywhere in the country that says you have to keep your window rolled down or cops can drag you outta your car by your noggin and put a knee in your back.
anyone who bothered to take the time to watch the video should without much difficulty realize that NOBODY is doing 95-100-120-150 mph ....
60 may even be a stretch ... looks about like 50 to me and if its a 45 the cop shouldn't even have pulled out
and a 90+ degree day Id have my window up too and the AC on high ...
that said .... the asphalt temp is inhuman to put anyone down for no reason ...
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
But you didn’t roll the window up when the cop was trying to speak with you or before getting your license. That’s a big difference.
You also probably didn’t have dark tinted windows and start reaching around for things at a frantic pace.
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From what I saw he handed the cop his license, cop turns and starts walking back to his cop cycle, and then realizes dude rolled his window up and got his knickers in a twist.
Just rewatched. To my old eyes on my phone screen, the cop has his license in hand via a fully lowered window and then turns and takes a step or three away from the car towards his cop bike. Sees the window get rolled up and loses his shit.
I thought he rolled it up first. Then he rolls it up again and starts reaching around INT he bar with dark tinted windows. Not safe for an officer.
You’ll have to check my eyes. But the super quick scan I did to the video looked like he lowered his window. Gave the cop the stuff. Raised the window. Cop freaks out. Window goes down a bit. Cop yells. Window goes up. Cop super freaks out.
But I ran through several minutes of footage with little audio and scrubbing forward and back on my phone screen. Accuracy may be scattered.
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There's no way you think Hill was being cooperative. Maybe excessive force was used, but he brought it on himself.
Maybe excessive force?
Yeah. I think the response was extremely disproportionate.
Hill was being a passive aggressive dingus. But that’s just not grounds to get hauled out by your skull and pinned to the ground.
you as an individual are not required to be an alter boy .... he was required to give the officer his license owners card and proof of insurance ( looks like he did just that ) you are not required by law to put your window all the way down in fact its only required to be down far enough to communicate ... when the officer turns to go to his bike to run the license at that point communication was over and the window went up ... nothing illegal there .....
the window did get lowered again upon request , the officer just got pissed because he was not listened to even though what he requested was not a lawful order (no need to put window all the way down its not the law)
there is no law that says you have to be overly cooperative , that said the cop clearly knew he had a celebrity hence why so many others showed up on the scene ... they didnt just show up they were told hey come check out who I got .... the Police are the paid professionals here they have a set protocol they need to follow and they failed here ....
Cheetah clearly is an ass but being an ass is not against the law and there was NOTHING he did that allows the officers to use force , in fact he should have been writing a citation instead of getting him out of the car ... it took nearly 20 mins to start to write a citation ...20 mins the stop should have been over and done with and the only ones who kept that from happening was the Police with their civil liberties infringements ....
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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He's a prick acting like a prick. And I don't feel sorry for him. I'm genuinely glad he's not a Steeler.
It’s too bad they didn’t use excessive force. Not a scratch on him. How anyone can stick up for wife beater and child abuser is beyond me. No one likes cops til they need one. They treated him more respectfully than he treated his kid. Pretty sad.
see thats the thing we live in the USA not Cuba or some other God Forsaken place , we have something called rights .... we are not required to be nice , we are not required to be the way you or some other person thinks we need to be ... we can be a bit obstinate as long as we do not get physical or pose a physical threat the police are required BY LAW to not be abusive towards us ...
SO considering the LAW states they can not act a certain way makes them WORSE than the Cheeta in this case because after he was pulled over he broke no laws .......
what Hill did to his Girlfriend or his kid or your cousins friends sisters mother in laws uncle has no bearing on what happened here and your feeling towards those other situations should NOT influence opinions on what is right or wrong in THIS case as they are mutually exclusive ....
now if someone wants to make another thread about what a complete waste of oxygen Tyreek Hill is for the way he acted towards his kid or his X , fine do it and we can debate what a piece of shit he is as a person there and I will pile it on with the rest of you but this isnt about that ...... this is about how the police acted towards a citizen who did not in this case deserve the treatment they received and how the Police over stepped their rights and in the process trampled Hills
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
In Fort Lauderdale, Florida, criminal defense law firm Meltzer & Bell says drivers are required to roll down their windows when they are pulled over in order to ensure smooth interaction with law enforcement.In Florida, the state’s Stop and ID laws become active when one is stopped by law enforcement, whether for a traffic violation or because of suspicion of a crime. Drivers are required by law to identify themselves.
“The law is clear and unambiguous: provide ID,” says Melzer & Bell. “Refusal to identify oneself during a lawful stop can lead to further legal action by law enforcement.”
It’s also a good idea to make sure you have your required documentation handy, the firm says.
That doesn’t necessarily mean reaching for them right away. In general, lawyers advise keeping your hands on the steering wheel and avoiding sudden movements.
"Do what the officer tells you to do,” says retired detective Bill Richardson, who spent 16 years as a traffic officer in Mesa, Arizona. “If the officer says, 'Turn off the radio and shut up,' turn off the radio and shut up. You need to talk to the officer like you would talk to your priest or to your parents. You need to be respectful."
.Chandler attorney Victor advises drivers to be polite and not to argue or be disrespectful. If the officer asks you to exit the vehicle, exit the vehicle. Arguments over the situation or mistreatment can be handled in court.
“Many people make the mistake of asking what they did wrong before complying,” writes Pittsburgh’s Worgul, Sarna & Ness. “This can be considered hostility.”
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See the video I posted below the Tyreek video. That dude is in Texas. All states vary
From reading through the provided links, you MUST provide ID. And it is suggested that you keep your window rolled down and hands on the dash. But that’s not the law. Just advice so the cops don’t beat you, I guess.
Kind of also common sense unless you’re trying to be difficult and let them “know your rights”.
he did provide ID.....
That said people assume you have to provide ID but the reality is unless you are suspected of a crime with reasonable suspicion ( some sort of evidence ) you do NOT have to provide ID in most states ...
but none of that pertains here because he provided paperwork and his window was down until the officer started walking away ... then he put it back down just not as the officer requested , and its just that a request as its not the law ... the window was down far enough to communicate
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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My only regret is that Deshaun Watson wasn't with him.
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So this whole case was dismissed.
The cops never showed up in court. The cop who pulled Tyreek out of the car was put on "administrative duty"
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