Tyreek Hill incident

[DesertSteel]

If you have watched the body cam footage, who do you find most fault with, Hill or the cop?

Personally, I think Hill is at fault. He was dismissive towards to the cop and ignored his command to get out of the vehicle. The cop had the right to remove him. I guess Hill is only used to having confrontations with pregnant women and 5-year-old children. He's no choir boy. He's a convicted thug.

[Mach1]

How not to get your ass kicked by the police.

[cubanstogie]

If you have watched the body cam footage, who do you find most fault with, Hill or the cop?

Personally, I think Hill is at fault. He was dismissive towards to the cop and ignored his command to get out of the vehicle. The cop had the right to remove him. I guess Hill is only used to having confrontations with pregnant women and 5-year-old children. He's no choir boy. He's a convicted thug.

If a police officer tells any normal citizen to keep window down then you do. He copped an attitude from gitgo. Scotty Scheffler was in same situation and handled it the way the majority of citizens would. Scotty went to jail, and he’s white. Law enforcement is a tough job, I really hope these officers suffer no discipline . He’s lucky they weren’t playing the Vikings though.

[DesertSteel]

If a police officer tells any normal citizen to keep window down then you do. He copped an attitude from gitgo. Scotty Scheffler was in same situation and handled it the way the majority of citizens would. Scotty went to jail, and he’s white. Law enforcement is a tough job, I really hope these officers suffer no discipline . He’s lucky they weren’t playing the Vikings though.

Yeah I hope they don't bow down under pressure. Hill is a piece of dirt.

[tube517]

I don't know the laws in Miami but I've been watching too many 1a and 2a audit videos and police audit videos.

Tyreek talked way too much and didn't help his situation. Shut the hell up and don't give any more information than necessary.

These cops are way too aggressive. Badgering the 2nd guy on the phone is bullshit. He didn't have to give his license

Handcuffing the guy in the car behind was bad. Cop could have given a ticket calmly not blow a gasket.




Here's a good way to handle it. Dude doesn't have tinted windows but he handled it perfectly.

[86WARD]

Watched the first 5 minutes of that video and the officers did nothing wrong. Everything that was done was done for the safety of the officers on site. People can’t just walk up on a scene. Once you involve yourself, the officers have every right to ask for the license. Not to mention, a vehicle just pulled over and parked in the middle of the street. That alone is cause.

Haven’t had time to watch the rest.

[tube517]

Watched the first 5 minutes of that video and the officers did nothing wrong. Everything that was done was done for the safety of the officers on site. People can’t just walk up on a scene. Once you involve yourself, the officers have every right to ask for the license. Not to mention, a vehicle just pulled over and parked in the middle of the street. That alone is cause.

Haven’t had time to watch the rest.

They can always ask for a license but in many situations you don't have to give it if you are not suspected of a crime but state law varies

In this scenario the guy on the phone was blocking traffic so he should have driven away. Unfortunately he doesn't know that. Then he gets cuffed.

People need to know their rights. Alot of scenarios go wrong because people don't know how to handle it. And some cops don't know every law.

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[Dwinsgames]

my thing is this ....

2 wrongs do not make a right ....

Cheeta was wrong for putting the window up and being dismissive for a lack of a better way of describing it

HOWEVER

The Police were without question over zealous in how they responded , at no time was Tyreek aggressive towards them yet they took on an aggressive response and approach towards him and anyone else near the scene


there was ZERO reason for the one cop to come up from behind him the way he did as the Officer that was beside Hill at that point had everything under control ..all that transpired from the time they got him out of the car till the end was on the Police ... The Onus is upon them to de escalate the situation BUT instead they escalated it ... The Police in this case are the paid professionals and they sure did not act like it and in the end it will cost them their jobs and more if Tyreek wants to peruse it ...

at no time did Hill get aggressive , at no time did he threaten them .... wish we could say the same about the Police

[tube517]

my thing is this ....

2 wrongs do not make a right ....

Cheeta was wrong for putting the window up and being dismissive for a lack of a better way of describing it

HOWEVER

The Police were without question over zealous in how they responded , at no time was Tyreek aggressive towards them yet they took on an aggressive response and approach towards him and anyone else near the scene


there was ZERO reason for the one cop to come up from behind him the way he did as the Officer that was beside Hill at that point had everything under control ..all that transpired from the time they got him out of the car till the end was on the Police ... The Onus is upon them to de escalate the situation BUT instead they escalated it ... The Police in this case are the paid professionals and they sure did not act like it and in the end it will cost them their jobs and more if Tyreek wants to peruse it ...

at no time did Hill get aggressive , at no time did he threaten them .... wish we could say the same about the Police

Spot on.

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[Mojouw]

my thing is this ....

2 wrongs do not make a right ....

Cheeta was wrong for putting the window up and being dismissive for a lack of a better way of describing it

HOWEVER

The Police were without question over zealous in how they responded , at no time was Tyreek aggressive towards them yet they took on an aggressive response and approach towards him and anyone else near the scene


there was ZERO reason for the one cop to come up from behind him the way he did as the Officer that was beside Hill at that point had everything under control ..all that transpired from the time they got him out of the car till the end was on the Police ... The Onus is upon them to de escalate the situation BUT instead they escalated it ... The Police in this case are the paid professionals and they sure did not act like it and in the end it will cost them their jobs and more if Tyreek wants to peruse it ...

at no time did Hill get aggressive , at no time did he threaten them .... wish we could say the same about the Police

Sounds exactly right.

[oneforthetoe]

my thing is this ....

2 wrongs do not make a right ....

Cheeta was wrong for putting the window up and being dismissive for a lack of a better way of describing it

HOWEVER

The Police were without question over zealous in how they responded , at no time was Tyreek aggressive towards them yet they took on an aggressive response and approach towards him and anyone else near the scene


there was ZERO reason for the one cop to come up from behind him the way he did as the Officer that was beside Hill at that point had everything under control ..all that transpired from the time they got him out of the car till the end was on the Police ... The Onus is upon them to de escalate the situation BUT instead they escalated it ... The Police in this case are the paid professionals and they sure did not act like it and in the end it will cost them their jobs and more if Tyreek wants to peruse it ...

at no time did Hill get aggressive , at no time did he threaten them .... wish we could say the same about the Police

This is how I see it. Hill is a jerk and was the main instigator, by not following the officer's directions. But I think the officer could have done a better job of de-escalating the situation. Had he don that it would all be on Hill for being an idiot. The reality is if there is partial blame on both it falls back on the officer's duty to de-escalate, whether that is fair or not.

[cubanstogie]

This is how I see it. Hill is a jerk and was the main instigator, by not following the officer's directions. But I think the officer could have done a better job of de-escalating the situation. Had he don that it would all be on Hill for being an idiot. The reality is if there is partial blame on both it falls back on the officer's duty to de-escalate, whether that is fair or not.

I agree the officers need to de-escalate but priority number one is scene safety. Their safety, partners safety followed by Hills safety. I’m not a cop but they probably shouldn’t put him on ground. Against vehicle would’ve been aesthetically better. I have a hard time looking past someone ignoring law enforcement so smug so you reap what you sow. I think some training by officers is warranted but not losing job. The dude in Minneapolis was killed this was just embarrassing for Hill.

[Mojouw]

Took a look for the first time.

That’s a totally disproportionate response.

Maybe rural Wisconsin is a fairy tale paradise but multiple cops have never come to my car when I’ve been pulled over.

Gee…what could be the visual difference between me and Hill?

im thinking its the stonewashed jeans.

[EzraTank]

If you have watched the body cam footage, who do you find most fault with, Hill or the cop?

Personally, I think Hill is at fault. He was dismissive towards to the cop and ignored his command to get out of the vehicle. The cop had the right to remove him. I guess Hill is only used to having confrontations with pregnant women and 5-year-old children. He's no choir boy. He's a convicted thug.

He was supposedly doing 95 mph in a 25 mph zone. That alone would get ANYONE arrested on the spot regardless of their skin color. Outside of that, when TH acted the way he did he completely was at fault. Had he just pulled over, put his window down (and kept it down), handed the officer his license/insurance/registration, he probably just gets a ticket and is done with. The minute he yelled at the cop to not touch his window, told him to just give him his ticket, and then refused to roll down his heavily tinted window ... he was in the wrong. Cops get shot in those situations all the time when they can't see what the guy in the car is doing. Was the cop over zealous a little, probably but again TH was a total douche bag from the start.

Then the other Dolphin players stopping and approaching the situation was completely moronic. First off they just pulled over and blocked more traffic, they approached from both sides and tried to intervene. Could you imagine doing that to a cop if your friend got pulled over? Again the cops have no clue you are NFL players, all they see are large men approaching them. Again they could all be armed. Bottom line is the other Dolphin players needed to keep going and let TH get his ticket.

Then his scum bag agent, bane of the earth, Drew Rosenhaus has to weigh in with his opinion calling for the cops to be fired before the body cam footage comes out. Drew Rosenhaus is a scumbag, period.

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I don't know the laws in Miami but I've been watching too many 1a and 2a audit videos and police audit videos.

Tyreek talked way too much and didn't help his situation. Shut the hell up and don't give any more information than necessary.

These cops are way too aggressive. Badgering the 2nd guy on the phone is bullshit. He didn't have to give his license

Handcuffing the guy in the car behind was bad. Cop could have given a ticket calmly not blow a gasket.


Here's a good way to handle it. Dude doesn't have tinted windows but he handled it perfectly.

Not true. I come from a family that had cops. Why did the other Dolphin players even stop? Would you stop if a friend got pulled over and approach the car as the cop was talking to him? No, you never would. The cops had every right to detain all of them. They have no clue they are Dolphin players/friends, for all they know they all could have been drug dealers and armed (it is Florida). They warned them to leave and they didn't. Again they were in the wrong, not the cops.

People always say cops have to de-escalate the situation. Well people that say that have never walked a day in cops shoes. People shoot cops way more then cops shoot people. Like I said above, you would NEVER get out of your car and just approach a cop talking to someone they just pulled over, you would just never do that. First off it is dangerous on a busy road like that and as I already said it is just stupid because they cop is already outnumbered and is going to be on edge.

[ALLD]

I work in Miami and Hill will get away with it because he is a star WR on the Fins. He has entitlement mentality and lives in a bubble where he does whatever he wants and generally has no consequences. Kind of like AB lite.

I think they should throw out the ticket because I don't like tickets and the cops are sometimes a bit heavy down here. If he was endangering himself or others that could be different. Miami PD will probably not want the publicity and bury it.

[vasteeler]

He was supposedly doing 95 mph in a 25 mph zone. That alone would get ANYONE arrested on the spot regardless of their skin color. Outside of that, when TH acted the way he did he completely was at fault. Had he just pulled over, put his window down (and kept it down), handed the officer his license/insurance/registration, he probably just gets a ticket and is done with. The minute he yelled at the cop to not touch his window, told him to just give him his ticket, and then refused to roll down his heavily tinted window ... he was in the wrong. Cops get shot in those situations all the time when they can't see what the guy in the car is doing. Was the cop over zealous a little, probably but again TH was a total douche bag from the start.

Then the other Dolphin players stopping and approaching the situation was completely moronic. First off they just pulled over and blocked more traffic, they approached from both sides and tried to intervene. Could you imagine doing that to a cop if your friend got pulled over? Again the cops have no clue you are NFL players, all they see are large men approaching them. Again they could all be armed. Bottom line is the other Dolphin players needed to keep going and let TH get his ticket.

Then his scum bag agent, bane of the earth, Drew Rosenhaus has to weigh in with his opinion calling for the cops to be fired before the body cam footage comes out. Drew Rosenhaus is a scumbag, period.

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Not true. I come from a family that had cops. Why did the other Dolphin players even stop? Would you stop if a friend got pulled over and approach the car as the cop was talking to him? No, you never would. The cops had every right to detain all of them. They have no clue they are Dolphin players/friends, for all they know they all could have been drug dealers and armed (it is Florida). They warned them to leave and they didn't. Again they were in the wrong, not the cops.

People always say cops have to de-escalate the situation. Well people that say that have never walked a day in cops shoes. People shoot cops way more then cops shoot people. Like I said above, you would NEVER get out of your car and just approach a cop talking to someone they just pulled over, you would just never do that. First off it is dangerous on a busy road like that and as I already said it is just stupid because they cop is already outnumbered and is going to be on edge.

Agreed 100%
Do what the officer tells you and chances are you'll be fine

[86WARD]

I work in Miami and Hill will get away with it because he is a star WR on the Fins. He has entitlement mentality and lives in a bubble where he does whatever he wants and generally has no consequences. Kind of like AB lite.

I think they should throw out the ticket because I don't like tickets and the cops are sometimes a bit heavy down here. If he was endangering himself or others that could be different. Miami PD will probably not want the publicity and bury it.

95 in a 25 is pretty endangering…

[Born2Steel]

If it really was driving 95 in a 25 zone, that by itself instigated what happened. That is aggression by definition. When officers respond in numbers that would be why. From there it is just what you all have been saying. Seems like a bit of overkill. Big BUT... nobody is above the law and when you act like you are, chances are pretty good you are going to get treated a certain way. Right out wrong, that is part of living in a society.

[DesertSteel]

The citation says he was going 60 in a 45. But he's still a convicted thug. And he acted like one.

[ALLD]

60 in a 45 will get tossed. That's everybody at rush hour on SR-826. I regularly clock drivers in excess of 100 mph on the turnpike and I-95. It's like the Daytona 500 at times all the way from Miami to Jacksonville.

[EzraTank]

The citation says he was going 60 in a 45. But he's still a convicted thug. And he acted like one.

Yeah, I've heard all different speeds. 100, 95 now 60. The point is he was a douche bag from the start and rolling up heavily tinted windows with cops is a huge no-no. If they cannot see you in the car, especially after you've mouth off to them, then they have every right to assume you're up to no good for their own safety.

Again, had TH just pulled over, put his window down (and kept it down), handed the officer his license/insurance/registration, he probably just gets a ticket and is done with.

[Born2Steel]

I wonder who's going to be throwing him footballs now. He is a rockstar with a football in his hands. But who is going to get the ball to him?

[Mojouw]

If it was your son and it went down EXACTLY like the body cam footage; none of you would be calm and collected about the police response.

[Mach1]

If it was your son and it went down EXACTLY like the body cam footage; none of you would be calm and collected about the police response.

I'd tell my kid he got exactly what he deserved for being a dumb ass. Have some respect.

[DesertSteel]

If it was your son and it went down EXACTLY like the body cam footage; none of you would be calm and collected about the police response.

If Tyreek Hill was my son, I'd be more embarrassed about him beating up his pregnant girlfriend and breaking his 5-year-old son's arm. But that's just me.

[86WARD]

60 in a 45 will get tossed. That's everybody at rush hour on SR-826. I regularly clock drivers in excess of 100 mph on the turnpike and I-95. It's like the Daytona 500 at times all the way from Miami to Jacksonville.

BIG difference from 95 in a 25…lol

[86WARD]

I'd tell my kid he got exactly what he deserved for being a dumb ass. Have some respect.

Second that…and then he’d get it worse from me…lol

[tube517]

[vasteeler]

If it was your son and it went down EXACTLY like the body cam footage; none of you would be calm and collected about the police response.

Nope, my son would have complied with the officers requests, not act like an entitled prick.

[tube517]

He was supposedly doing 95 mph in a 25 mph zone. That alone would get ANYONE arrested on the spot regardless of their skin color. Outside of that, when TH acted the way he did he completely was at fault. Had he just pulled over, put his window down (and kept it down), handed the officer his license/insurance/registration, he probably just gets a ticket and is done with. The minute he yelled at the cop to not touch his window, told him to just give him his ticket, and then refused to roll down his heavily tinted window ... he was in the wrong. Cops get shot in those situations all the time when they can't see what the guy in the car is doing. Was the cop over zealous a little, probably but again TH was a total douche bag from the start.

Then the other Dolphin players stopping and approaching the situation was completely moronic. First off they just pulled over and blocked more traffic, they approached from both sides and tried to intervene. Could you imagine doing that to a cop if your friend got pulled over? Again the cops have no clue you are NFL players, all they see are large men approaching them. Again they could all be armed. Bottom line is the other Dolphin players needed to keep going and let TH get his ticket.

Then his scum bag agent, bane of the earth, Drew Rosenhaus has to weigh in with his opinion calling for the cops to be fired before the body cam footage comes out. Drew Rosenhaus is a scumbag, period.

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Not true. I come from a family that had cops. Why did the other Dolphin players even stop? Would you stop if a friend got pulled over and approach the car as the cop was talking to him? No, you never would. The cops had every right to detain all of them. They have no clue they are Dolphin players/friends, for all they know they all could have been drug dealers and armed (it is Florida). They warned them to leave and they didn't. Again they were in the wrong, not the cops.

People always say cops have to de-escalate the situation. Well people that say that have never walked a day in cops shoes. People shoot cops way more then cops shoot people. Like I said above, you would NEVER get out of your car and just approach a cop talking to someone they just pulled over, you would just never do that. First off it is dangerous on a busy road like that and as I already said it is just stupid because they cop is already outnumbered and is going to be on edge.

Pulling over and blocking traffic is going to get a ticket and yes very stupid. If I was the 2nd guy on the phone, I would have politely declined providing ID and left.

BTW, the officer who pulled Tyreek out of the car was placed on administrative leave and has a long record of doing this shit. Previously suspended SIX times.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...nded-six-times

And, no, I am not anti police. I am anti BAD police. I back the blue and the GOOD police. My godson just graduated the academy and am damn proud of him.