The Most Sick and Disgusting Thing I've Ever Seen

[86WARD]

You can keep your rock, I have a little better means of defending my house from invaders.

Which you've never ever used. lol

Y'all drink waaaaay too much Kool-Aid...

[Rocky Mtn.]

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Which you've never ever used. lol

Y'all drink waaaaay too much Kool-Aid...

Bzzzt. Wrong again. Would you like to go for double jeopardy?

[Mach1]

Which you've never ever used. lol

Y'all drink waaaaay too much Kool-Aid...

Bold of you to assume I haven't

[Rocky Mtn.]

Bold of you to assume I haven't

Don't you know that the lefties always know more about somebody than the somebody does?

[Mojouw]

Are you really this dumb?

First of all, your original post talks about 90% of the fentanyl "entering the country". But the data in the links you supplied refers to 90% of the fentanyl that was "seized". Those are two completely different things. The fentanyl "entering the country" includes both the fentanyl that was seized and the fentanyl that was NOT seized and got through.

Wouldn't you know it, it turns out that a lot more fentanyl was seized at legal entry points where there are barriers and law enforcement officials conducting searches than in places where there aren't. Well gee, who'd a thunk it? Yes, this data accurately portrays where most of the seized fentanyl occurred, but tells us absolutely nothing about where all the fentanyl that WASN'T seized got through. It doesn't tell us how much fentanyl somehow got through the legal entry points anyway, and it doesn't tell us how much fentanyl got through the illegal entry points. There's no way anyone can know or determine this, so there's no way that anyone can know or determine what percentage of the total fentanyl "entering the country" came through legal entry points or came through illegal entry points, just like I said.

Having said this, I will put forth the theory that a lot more of the fentanyl that wasn't seized and actually got into the country got though illegal entry points rather than legal entry points. I say this because (a) illegal entry points don't have the barriers and law enforcement presence that legal entry points do, and (b) in terms of area, the illegal entry points massively dwarf the legal entry points, since by definition any location that isn't part of a legal entry point is an illegal entry point. As a matter of fact, the small amount of fentanyl actually seized at illegal entry points is probably an indication that the seizure efforts in these areas aren't too effective.

It's just common sense. You should try it sometime.

I see that in addition to reading comprehension that proportions are not your strong suit. You can find dozens of discussions about this where Homeland, Customs, non government law enforcement, etc all agree that very little proportion of fentanyl enters the country between ports of entry.

so I can either believe the folks who do this for a living or some dude on the internet who didn’t believe a boat could be buried under a street when we could see the ocean in the picture. Not a hard choice.

But why use facts and information when you can just repeat fantasy talking points?

Have a good day. Enjoy ranting into the void tonight.

[steelcityboyz]

I see that in addition to reading comprehension that proportions are not your strong suit. You can find dozens of discussions about this where Homeland, Customs, non government law enforcement, etc all agree that very little proportion of fentanyl enters the country between ports of entry.

so I can either believe the folks who do this for a living or some dude on the internet who didn’t believe a boat could be buried under a street when we could see the ocean in the picture. Not a hard choice.

But why use facts and information when you can just repeat fantasy talking points?

Have a good day. Enjoy ranting into the void tonight.

Nice try on the the response, but VOR just owned your previous post.

[Mojouw]

Nice try on the the response, but VOR just owned your previous post.

I know reading is difficult. Just sound out the words you don’t know and try your best.

ask your mom on the really hard ones.

good luck! I know you can do it. We all believe in you.

[Rocky Mtn.]

Wow.

[Mojouw]

Why the personal attack?

Because these two in particular are highly entertaining to make fun of. It is likely small and silly of me to do it but it makes me laugh. I will also point out that I was called stupid earlier and no one said anything. It appears dishing it out but not being able take it is a hallmark of the crowd.

Also if individuals can not see that setting up an impossible to prove/disprove hypothesis based on seemingly only the baseless assumptions of how VOR thinks international drug smuggling works then I jump to the conclusion that there’s not much foundation for discussion.

The data and information put out by CEBP and Homeland specifies that while no one knows how much of anything illegal is entering the country (since it’s illegal smuggling it’s impossible to know with accuracy) agents with both places believe seizures are an accurate representation of shipment proportions as well. But with the big caveat that I was day drinking while posting so mileage may vary.

Further, if you look into the long and detailed history of drug smuggling you will find it overwhelmingly uses existing ports and border crossings because that’s way easier to get your product quickly out for distribution. If you drop it over the border in west nowhere Texas, you have to then transport it out of west nowhere to somewhere useful. That’s a waste of time. But I’ve got no ready proof of that any more than VOR has that the border between crossings is awash with pills.

This entire debate seems to be a mirror for how you want to see things with little consideration of what’s actually taking place. My radical suggestion is that we listen to law enforcement rather than nonsensical politicos from either end of the spectrum.

[Rocky Mtn.]

Because these two in particular are highly entertaining to make fun of. It is likely small and silly of me to do it but it makes me laugh. I will also point out that I was called stupid earlier and no one said anything. It appears dishing it out but not being able take it is a hallmark of the crowd.

Also if individuals can not see that setting up an impossible to prove/disprove hypothesis based on seemingly only the baseless assumptions of how VOR thinks international drug smuggling works then I jump to the conclusion that there’s not much foundation for discussion.

The data and information put out by CEBP and Homeland specifies that while no one knows how much of anything illegal is entering the country (since it’s illegal smuggling it’s impossible to know with accuracy) agents with both places believe seizures are an accurate representation of shipment proportions as well. But with the big caveat that I was day drinking while posting so mileage may vary.

Further, if you look into the long and detailed history of drug smuggling you will find it overwhelmingly uses existing ports and border crossings because that’s way easier to get your product quickly out for distribution. If you drop it over the border in west nowhere Texas, you have to then transport it out of west nowhere to somewhere useful. That’s a waste of time. But I’ve got no ready proof of that any more than VOR has that the border between crossings is awash with pills.

This entire debate seems to be a mirror for how you want to see things with little consideration of what’s actually taking place. My radical suggestion is that we listen to law enforcement rather than nonsensical politicos from either end of the spectrum.

Fair enough. My input here is basically that the porous border needs closed down yesterday. I shudder to think what it will be like when the unknowns commit terror on our soil.

[Mojouw]

Fair enough. My input here is basically that the porous border needs closed down yesterday. I shudder to think what it will be like when the unknowns commit terror on our soil.

Totally legit place to be.

I’ve been hearing about the border being the downfall of everything I should hold dear for over 4 decades. And not much has really changed.

I too fear that something really dire will happen but I think politicians prey on our fears more than portraying the reality.

But I live super far from the border and it almost totally doesn’t impact my day to day.

[Steeldude]

Oh - we are doing false equivalencies now? Those are so fun!

I have rock outside my house. My house has never been invaded and no crimes have ever happened within 3 houses of my rock. Would you like to purchase my crime fighting rock? I will give you or anyone else here a great deal.

No. The barriers being used are to keep out unwanted people(illegal aliens, liberals). Or did the Dems put up these barriers to keep Covid out?

[steelcityboyz]

I know reading is difficult. Just sound out the words you don’t know and try your best.

ask your mom on the really hard ones.

good luck! I know you can do it. We all believe in you.

And you continue to live in your parents basement and live on this message board. "We all believe in you?" Nice way of trying to get the bully gang involved... What a loser peice of shit you are.

[Voice of Reason]

Don't you know that the lefties always know more about somebody than the somebody does?

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I see that in addition to reading comprehension that proportions are not your strong suit. You can find dozens of discussions about this where Homeland, Customs, non government law enforcement, etc all agree that very little proportion of fentanyl enters the country between ports of entry.

Still waiting for your explanation on how all these people can determine this.

[Voice of Reason]

The data and information put out by CEBP and Homeland specifies that while no one knows how much of anything illegal is entering the country (since it’s illegal smuggling it’s impossible to know with accuracy) agents with both places believe seizures are an accurate representation of shipment proportions as well.

YOU IDIOT !!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.

[Mojouw]

YOU IDIOT !!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.

Proportions and percentages can be tricky concepts when you first encounter them.

Keep practicing and you will get there!

Once you get comfortable with those; check out sampling and data analysis. It’s wild stuff!!

[Voice of Reason]

But I live super far from the border and it almost totally doesn’t impact my day to day.

Until someone you know dies from the fentanyl that came in, or is attacked by a criminal who came across, or who dies in a terrorist attack carried out by people who came across, or is put out of their apartment to make room for migrants.

[Voice of Reason]

Proportions and percentages can be tricky concepts when you first encounter them.

Keep practicing and you will get there!

Once you get comfortable with those; check out sampling and data analysis. It’s wild stuff!!

Liberal Playbook Rule #23: When you're proven wrong and don't have an answer for what your opponent is saying, try to ridicule them for saying it.

You really use this one a lot.

[Rocky Mtn.]

Until someone you know dies from the fentanyl that came in, or is attacked by a criminal who came across, or who dies in a terrorist attack carried out by people who came across, or is put out of their apartment to make room for migrants.

All of those are very real scenarios. I stand pat with my assessment that if we get 4 more years,meaning 8 consecutive years of the leftist ideoogy in the Whitehouse we are toast. They'll change everything up so there will never be an opposing party in the Whitehouse. Authoritarian. Scariest time in my lifetime as far as closing in on government control. Who has been and is running the show until January? It's simply not the beach comber.

[Mojouw]

Liberal Playbook Rule #23: When you're proven wrong and don't have an answer for what your opponent is saying, try to ridicule them for saying it.

You really use this one a lot.

Not my fault that you can't understand the provided data and analysis from Customs and Homeland. Might want to go ask your junior high teachers why they didn't explain things better? I'm at a loss for how to make it any simpler.

[Mojouw]

If I don't have associates that are into taking illegal opioids....why would I worry about anything? -- https://healthandjusticejournal.biom...52-021-00163-5 or https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/me...ching-fentanyl if you prefer.

I wonder what a coast to coast border wall would cost for construction, maintenance, and staffing? Sounds super expensive. How are we paying for that again? Is Mexico still underwriting this? Also, are we walling off tourist beaches or just the parts where Mexico touches the US?

[Voice of Reason]

Liberal Playbook Rule #23: When you're proven wrong and don't have an answer for what your opponent is saying, try to ridicule them for saying it.

You really use this one a lot.

Not my fault that you can't understand the provided data and analysis from Customs and Homeland. Might want to go ask your junior high teachers why they didn't explain things better? I'm at a loss for how to make it any simpler.

It's hilarious when I accuse someone of doing something, and their clever retort is to do exactly what I just accused them of.

[Voice of Reason]

If I don't have associates that are into taking illegal opioids....why would I worry about anything?

[Mach1]

If I don't have associates that are into taking illegal opioids....why would I worry about anything? -- https://healthandjusticejournal.biom...52-021-00163-5 or https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/me...ching-fentanyl if you prefer.

I wonder what a coast to coast border wall would cost for construction, maintenance, and staffing? Sounds super expensive. How are we paying for that again? Is Mexico still underwriting this? Also, are we walling off tourist beaches or just the parts where Mexico touches the US?

The same way we're paying for illegal aliens medical, education, housing and feeding them for years to come. Building a wall would be much, much cheaper.

[Rocky Mtn.]

The same way we're paying for illegal aliens medical, education, housing and feeding them for years to come. Building a wall would be much, much cheaper.

New York City is paying 600,000 dollars a day to sanctuary illegals.

[Steeldude]

The same way we're paying for illegal aliens medical, education, housing and feeding them for years to come. Building a wall would be much, much cheaper.

They don't get it.

I think it should be optional to pay for illegal aliens. They should make a site for liberals to donate their money to illegal aliens. I guarantee not a single liberal would give a penny.

[Rocky Mtn.]

They don't get it.

I think it should be optional to pay for illegal aliens. They should make a site for liberals to donate their money to illegal aliens. I guarantee not a single liberal would give a penny.

Spot on. A go fund me for illegal aliens instead of a big government forced donation. The elites have never been and will never be subject to the results of spending our money. D.C. club for President 2024! Rules for thee but not for me.

[steelcityboyz]

The same way we're paying for illegal aliens medical, education, housing and feeding them for years to come. Building a wall would be much, much cheaper.

I was going to post the same thing.. You're absolutely spot on. But I'm done with this clown it's futile. I have better things to do than live on this message board like he does.

[Mojouw]

I’d appreciate a little more empathy. I just got laid off from my vegetable picking job and found out my home has been converted into a reeducation camp for opioid addiction.

[Voice of Reason]

I’d appreciate a little more empathy. I just got laid off from my vegetable picking job and found out my home has been converted into a reeducation camp for opioid addiction.

Wait til you find that the Social Security and Medicare benefits you thought you were getting have been cut because of all the illegals who have never paid into these programs but have been added to the list of people getting benefits.