That’s insulting if that’s what they were to offer him. He’s the only back with 1000+ yards for the last three seasons and only Steelers player to rush for 1000 in his first three seasons. He’d be stupid to accept that deal. I would think he can easily get more elsewhere.Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
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3.9 YPC. 1,000 yard seasons aren't that hard with 17 games. That's 59 yards a game.
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It's harder in Canada
If Khan were doing this, he wouldn't present it to Rooney that way. He would provide "good" football reasons for each of his actions. It would just be an amazing coincidence that each of these actions made Colbert's recent draft picks look bad.
when will people STOP using 1000 yards as some kind of great standard ....
it was considered a great standard with a 12 game season , we have since added 5 more games to the schedule ...that standard should now be 1400 yards if you do the math .... so let me ask how many 1400 yard seasons does he have ?
Najee is a nice piece to have but he isn't irreplaceable ... we have warren add a bowling ball to the mix and you pretty much have it covered ...
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
So is Rooney drooling into a cup in this scenario? Because it wouldn’t be hard for him to see through such a cunning and devious plan.
Yeah, might be a bit low, but James Conner has a 3-year $21million contract. I see Najee in that range maybe, so maybe they offer him something better if its going to happen.
Still, it can be argued that he isnt the best RB on the roster right now and he may not be in the plans going forward. But I thought that picking up the 5th year option would be a no brainer as its less than what Conner is getting and I see them as comparable skills.
He’s still the best blocker / blitz pick up on the roster by far. Really his Achilles heal is his vision sometimes and maybe that’s due to how Canada ran an offense? Who knows…hopefully this season we will start to see how players really should be evaluated…in a real offense.
I'm a fan. I remember how hard it was to find a RB after Bell and Najee is reliable RB that stabilized the position. But the RB position has been devalued and I would not be shocked if they dont give him another contract.
He is on a 4 year $13 million rookie deal and has been a bargain at that. If they dont offer him anything, its a good business decision for a RB like that to get yards and get down, or get out of bound. Not take any extra shots like has the past few years so that he does not get injured and hamper his ability to get a 2nd contract somethere.
If he does that, fans will bitch and moan, but there is no security in NFL contracts and I dont begrudge any man or woman from earning the most they can in what they do. It could be an interesting situation, but we honestly have nothing to do but watch and wait.
You didn't see through it, even when I laid it out for you on a platter. Does that mean you are drooling into a cup?
I've never understood one of your posts. They are not about football. They are about your reconstructions of Machiavellian plots, palace intrigue, and grown men acting on their teenage girl feelings. Mostly read like soap operas that you've concocted in your head and share here at zero dark thirty in the morning.You didn't see through it, even when I laid it out for you on a platter. Does that mean you are drooling into a cup?
In the current one it appears you have an explanation that requires the new GM to have an outsized or fragile ego enough that he needs to run off the draft picks of his predecessor. But only the bad ones? Why not just sell the owner on trading Watt and Highsmith as part of a rebuild? Or convince him to trade Pickens? Justify it as being too much of a head case and poisonous to the rest of the team.
I was and am the biggest supporter of Colbert you are likely to find on here. I always liked his approach and his ruthless logic when it came to picking players. But the last few years, he got backed into a corner and forced more than a few picks. They did not work out.
Finally, if Khan's ego was either large enough or fragile enough to drive the agenda you have seemingly assigned to him, how would he tolerate bringing in Weidel as basically a co-GM?
Your Steelers soap opera has more plot-holes than a Netflix original movie. You can do better. I believe in you.
Need better than 3.8 yards per carry to get that 5th year
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A 3.9 career average, actually. Which really isn't too bad considering the high school offense and the worst OL the team has fielded in about 15 years he was forced to work with. Not to mention an anemic passing attack that struck fear into absolutely nobody.
However, when a team takes a RB in the first round, they really need to be getting a reincarnation of Walter Payton/Barry Sanders, and Harris isn't that either.
A bit angsty there …would you say.
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This might be more about what Khan brings to the table in the triumvirate of GM, head coach and owner, as opposed to Khan just dominating the conversation. And I would throw Weidel in there on the GM side. The Steelers have usually had a three headed monster making the personnel decisions since the early 70's, with the exception of the mid -Cowher era where the GM was diminished.
Both Tomlin and Rooney are old school "players" coach/owner, where loyalty is the highest priority. Not that they are unwilling to cut a player, or not extend a player, when they are no longer capable of being an asset to the team, but loyalty often leads them to keep players around as their usefulness diminishes beyond their financial worth. This is not always bad way to do business. It's one of the reasons players want to play for the Steelers beyond just their man-love for Tomlin. You will get as fair a shake in Pittsburgh as you will anywhere in the NFL.
Colbert was also a "players" Gm, imo. So, basically towards the end of his career (which was still a great career overall) I'm thinking there was limited critical disagreement in the triumvirate. Sure, we heard stories that one of them would have preferred that Ben retired in 2021 but I wonder how much actual debate went on. I think Khan brings a more analytical (not necessarily analyitics themselves) to the discussions. That's why they are doing things that seem un-Steelers's like, I think.
We will see how it plays out over the years. Is it mostly Weidel? Will Khan mellow with the years? Will he continue to be the "Khan artist?" Time will tell but he will likely be their longer than Tomlin and maybe even Art as the Persident.
The more I think about it, the less I don’t understand this move.
Most durable back in the league. Only RB to post 3 straight 1000 yard seasons the past 3 years.
I wonder if his comments about RB market are in play?
Interesting! Didn’t really think about that! It will be fun to see how it plays out. I’m a fan
I’ve always liked Harris as a player. I do need to acknowledge that I didn’t like the pick. And I said so, so I’ll continue to stand by that.
Be that as it may, I do believe that Harris got screwed in Canada’s offense maybe more than most.
I think in a better system he’d be a 12-1500 yard back with a ton of catches as well. Likely still not viewed as “spectacular” but certainly a bit better than current.
I appreciate the acknowledgement that you didnt like the pick.
I liked the Najee pick, but understand that RB doesnt need to be 1st round guy in the current NFL, but I liked his size, production, character and was tired of the Steelers trotting out chumps like Benny Snell and thinking that would help the offense run the ball.
I know you didn’t like…..but I was good with it. He is such a good ambassador for the Steelers……except for the RB thing…..immaturity…maybe.
Agreed. My gripe was the first round cost more than the player. And I’m not sure you could’ve got him outside the first round. So it’s a bit of a circular argument that only scratches my math nerd brain.
Perhaps it is immature but at the same time he’s not wrong. Most teams funnel a lot of their offense through RB either by actual rushes or misdirection. And they’re refusing to pay for it.
It’s kinda weird. Demanding excellence and high usage at rock bottom prices. Kinda like safety.
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Hard to feel sorry for guys making $3-12 million a year playing a game for 5 months a year.
Finally something we can agree upon.
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Tell that to Pickett and Rudolph.
Only thing bad about Harris is his vision isn’t the greatest. That could also be a part of the offense he was in…
I’m excited to see all of these players in a real NFL offense opposed to what we saw. What would be really scary is if the results turn out the same under Smith as they did with Canada…yikes…
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If Najee runs for 1500 they can franchise him, which is probably about the same $. But if he’s the same or declines, they can move on. No down side.
franchise is around 12 and I think transition is 9?
But that can be slapped on and then negotiate a longer deal later…
I dont think anybody is feeling sorry for anybody. The NFL isnt like the real world where if I was a new grad from school and really good at what I did, that its mandated for 4 years that I get paid 30-50% less than somebody who graduated 3 years before I did.
Also, you know that being a pro athlete isnt a 5 month job, because the guys that treat it that way are often driving a UPS truck or applying to sell life insurance when they get released.
Honestly, Its a dismissive and negative position that I really didnt expect to come from you. Its more in the realm of something Steeldud would say. Got some Najee hate on now?
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I dont see them tagging him at all. Thats a lot of money that the Steelers dont normally throw around.
I think they either let him play out the year and then look to draft a RB next year and pair with Warren. OR work on an extension for a couple more years that works for both sides. If I was going to guess I say this is the final season of Harris in B&G.
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I like Najee and hope he stays.
Warren has a 5.1 average with the same shitty offense. Only weakness with Warren is he has fumbled five times in 2 years
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