What Do You Think the Arthur Smith Offense Will Look Like?

[DesertSteel]

Doesn’t their confirmed pursuit of a top tier receiver tell us that Smith’s offense is going to be tweaked? Otherwise, why the pursuit? Good coaches can change/adapt.

[Shoes]

]Doesn’t their confirmed pursuit of a top tier receiver tell us that Smith’s offense is going to be tweaked?[/B] Otherwise, why the pursuit? Good coaches can change/adapt.

Yes, it does.

[Mojouw]

Doesn’t their confirmed pursuit of a top tier receiver tell us that Smith’s offense is going to be tweaked? Otherwise, why the pursuit? Good coaches can change/adapt.

For me it depends on how aggressive the pursuit was. If they’re trying to poach a big name with cap space and a fourth round pick; then it’s just due diligence. If they’re dangling first rounders out there; then it’s a serious sign of adjusting offensive priorities.

I honestly believe they had a choice between OT and WR with their first round pick. They chose, wisely in my opinion, tackle.

I don’t think Smith’s gonna change much.

[Shoes]

For me it depends on how aggressive the pursuit was. If they’re trying to poach a big name with cap space and a fourth round pick; then it’s just due diligence. If they’re dangling first rounders out there; then it’s a serious sign of adjusting offensive priorities.

I honestly believe they had a choice between OT and WR with their first round pick. They chose, wisely in my opinion, tackle.

I don’t think Smith’s gonna change much.

which = a tweak. we are all on the same page.

[DesertSteel]

For me it depends on how aggressive the pursuit was. If they’re trying to poach a big name with cap space and a fourth round pick; then it’s just due diligence. If they’re dangling first rounders out there; then it’s a serious sign of adjusting offensive priorities.

I honestly believe they had a choice between OT and WR with their first round pick. They chose, wisely in my opinion, tackle.

I don’t think Smith’s gonna change much.

It's not about the trade compensation. Tier 1 players go for R2-5 draft picks all the time now. It's about the contract extension that goes with it. The other team can't fit it in their cap and the Steelers take it on.

BTW, I really don't care what the offensive philosophy is as long as they score lots of points.

[86WARD]

Could it be that Smith just didn’t have a group of WRs that was good enough to put 3 out there??

Scottie Miller, Drake London and Van Jefferson isn’t really striking fear into a defense. Take one of them out and add Kyle Pitts and it’s a tad bit scarier but not frightening by any means.

[86WARD]

For me it depends on how aggressive the pursuit was. If they’re trying to poach a big name with cap space and a fourth round pick; then it’s just due diligence. If they’re dangling first rounders out there; then it’s a serious sign of adjusting offensive priorities.

I honestly believe they had a choice between OT and WR with their first round pick. They chose, wisely in my opinion, tackle.

I don’t think Smith’s gonna change much.

Seems like the pursuit has been about as aggressive as can be?

Confirmed offer to Boyd, trade talks for Aiyuk or Samuel. Courtland Sutton and then the Rumored trade talks for Metcalf.

Then there’s Khan’s quote in regards to that WR question: "There's nothing in the works right now. Nothing close to happening," Khan said. "I can tell you conversations continue, but there's nothing close to happening."

Typical GM speak but he does say conversations are continuing…

[Mojouw]

Seems like the pursuit has been about as aggressive as can be?

Confirmed offer to Boyd, trade talks for Aiyuk or Samuel. Courtland Sutton and then the Rumored trade talks for Metcalf.

Then there’s Khan’s quote in regards to that WR question: "There's nothing in the works right now. Nothing close to happening," Khan said. "I can tell you conversations continue, but there's nothing close to happening."

Typical GM speak but he does say conversations are continuing…

I don’t totally disagree. But if they felt they absolutely needed one of those guys, they could overwhelm a team with an offer. I’m glad they didn’t but I think k they’re waiting for a team to feel backed into a corner more then trying to pry a guy loose.

Likely only makes sense in my head. I’m not arguing just talking out loud.

[86WARD]

I don’t totally disagree. But if they felt they absolutely needed one of those guys, they could overwhelm a team with an offer. I’m glad they didn’t but I think k they’re waiting for a team to feel backed into a corner more then trying to pry a guy loose.

Likely only makes sense in my head. I’m not arguing just talking out loud.

They don’t need to overwhelm teams anymore. It’s not really how it’s working anymore. Teams are looking to dump contracts, save money, get returns on players they know they aren’t keeping. Just look at all the players that went for peanuts.

There is also plenty of time before the season starts to the point where nothing has to be done for a couple more months. Metcalf for instance could be a done deal and they quite possibly could’ve overwhelmed the Seahawks…however, that can’t be announced until June 1.

Or…they may be perfectly fine with what they have in house and could wait to see how that progresses, what cuts from other teams happen or sign a veteran free agent later. There’s still a couple/few out there that would be helpful.

[Mojouw]

I do not think they’re seriously pursuing a WR.

I think they have a cap price and trade compensation they’re putting out there. And they’re shopping that package around.

In my mind, if they really felt it was necessary to get a WR ; they’d have just ponied up what the Niners wanted for Deebo.

[86WARD]

If they are putting that package out to multiple teams about multiple players, that’s a pretty serious push. It’s a starting point in negotiating a deal.

Let’s say Smith doesn’t change his offense even a tiny bit and Pickens gets hurt in the second game. You think they are comfortable riding with what’s behind him? That would probably be the worst line up of WRs in maybe the history of the NFL.

[polamalubeast]

I am sure the steelers want a another good WR in their team but they wait the right price for that.....

[oneforthetoe]

Not an expert on Smith's offences in Tennessee or Atlanta but I think the biggest tweak in his system will be with the TE's. There was a video posted a few months ago that showed Smith using both double TE and/or fullback formations. I'd expect more double TE formations than FB because the Steelers don't really have a traditional fullback. Of course, they have a few players that could play an H-back position so tomato/ tomahto... However, out of those double TE/ H-back positions I suspect we might see "muth" slipping and playing a wr role more than Smith has used in the past. I think "muth" has untapped potential (I hope so) and it will keep defenses honest when they are sneaking extra players up to the line to stop the run.

Just a thought.

[86WARD]

I am sure the steelers want a another good WR in their team but they wait the right price for that.....

That’s one thing that’s not changing…lol

[ETL]

Everyone expects the Steelers to run under the Smith offense. So defenses will stack everyone in the box. Either we have to win one on one battles to succeed with the run or have burners on the outside that well …burn them for stacking too many in the box.

we have burners. We have Pickens who catches contested balls. And we have tight ends that can catch.

I don’t think we need another “star” receiver unless it is for depth in case Pickens gets injured.

[Dwinsgames]

I do not think they’re seriously pursuing a WR.

I think they have a cap price and trade compensation they’re putting out there. And they’re shopping that package around.

In my mind, if they really felt it was necessary to get a WR ; they’d have just ponied up what the Niners wanted for Deebo.

not just that but Smith basically uses 2 WRs .....

so you line up Pickens and Wilson ....

as for the #3 you have a plethora of guys who have shown to be capable

2021 Callaway had 698 yards almost enough to be considered a 2 in Smiths system but most he will be asked is a 3 or 4
2021 Van Jefferson had 800 yards thats enough in Smiths system to be a 2 but most he likely is asked to be is a 3 or 4
2021 Quez Watkins had 647 and like those above most he will be asked to be is a 3 or 4

then you add in the guys who have potential
Mims a pedigree guy who has shown flashes but hasnt put it all together yet
CA3 who can take the top off any defense but hasnt yet had a lot of success in the league ....

if we are only going to use 2 WR's on 84% of snaps why would we need anyone else ???

really good chance we only carry 5 WRs considering the % of snaps only 3 is used

[Mojouw]

Here is some numbers to put things in a context:

2020 was the Titans best offensive output in terms of points and yards under Smith. They did while ranking 30th in passing attempts.

AJ Brown had 106 targets and used those to put up a Pro Bowl Season.
Corey Davis had 92 targets that he put up a fairly respectable second banana season with.
Jonnu Smith was third in targets with 65 from the TE spot followed by the FB with 53 targets. No one else on the team had over 35.

Last season for the Steelers, they were 29th in pass attempts at 506 just about 20 more than the 2020 Titans. So 1 and a fraction more passes per game.
Pickens had 106 Targets
Johnson had 87.
Warren had 78.
Then it is ARob and the backs and TEs.

If Smith features more TEs....figure PF sees those ARob Targets and then some. Heyward picks up something out of a H-back role.

So there are about 70 targets for a WR to pick up in Smith's offense -- assuming it looks like something we have seen before. For reference, the team fed Dionte Johnson and Pickens over 80 targets in their rookie year.

I am wondering if Roman Wilson is simply the team's answer at WR. Smith's offense has a gap in WR targets about the exact size that Steelers like to load their rookie WR's with.

I agree that the depth is laughable after that. But this is a team that had a WR corps of Cody White and a bunch of other bums play in an AFC championship game....so maybe they're fine with it?

[86WARD]

Here is some numbers to put things in a context:

2020 was the Titans best offensive output in terms of points and yards under Smith. They did while ranking 30th in passing attempts.

AJ Brown had 106 targets and used those to put up a Pro Bowl Season.
Corey Davis had 92 targets that he put up a fairly respectable second banana season with.
Jonnu Smith was third in targets with 65 from the TE spot followed by the FB with 53 targets. No one else on the team had over 35.

Last season for the Steelers, they were 29th in pass attempts at 506 just about 20 more than the 2020 Titans. So 1 and a fraction more passes per game.
Pickens had 106 Targets
Johnson had 87.
Warren had 78.
Then it is ARob and the backs and TEs.

If Smith features more TEs....figure PF sees those ARob Targets and then some. Heyward picks up something out of a H-back role.

So there are about 70 targets for a WR to pick up in Smith's offense -- assuming it looks like something we have seen before. For reference, the team fed Dionte Johnson and Pickens over 80 targets in their rookie year.

I am wondering if Roman Wilson is simply the team's answer at WR. Smith's offense has a gap in WR targets about the exact size that Steelers like to load their rookie WR's with.

I agree that the depth is laughable after that. But this is a team that had a WR corps of Cody White and a bunch of other bums play in an AFC championship game....so maybe they're fine with it?

They had Ben. Russell Wilson is not Ben.

[polamalubeast]

They had Ben. Russell Wilson is not Ben.

and Harris is not Bell and Pickens is not Antonio Brown!...This is true that the current team have better TEs but this is not hard since it was horrible for the steelers at this position in 2016

The AFC were also not very good at that time too....THe steelers need a another good WR big time....Don't need to be a star but you don't want that he is a scrub or a 3rd round rookie at the start of the season

[T&B fan]

I don't know what it will look like . but please god make better then Canada

[polamalubeast]

I don't know what it will look like . but please god make better then Canada

This is a very low bar....

[hawaiiansteeler]

This is a very low bar....

[hawaiiansteeler]

I realize it's early, but the Steelers players are reportedly giving Arthur Smith's new offense rave reviews.

[polamalubeast]

I realize it's early, but the Steelers players are reportedly giving Arthur Smith's new offense rave reviews.

Smith look like Bill Walsh compared to Matt Canada too!

[hawaiiansteeler]

I predict Pat Freiermuth will have a breakout season in Arthur Smith's TE friendly offense and quiet the haters who have been saying we should have selected Creed Humphrey instead.

[Born2Steel]

I predict Pat Freiermuth will have a breakout season in Arthur Smith's TE friendly offense and quiet the haters who have been saying we should have selected Creed Humphrey instead.

You’re just a Freiermuth apologist.

[86WARD]

He’s a TE enabler.

[tube517]

I predict Pat Freiermuth will have a breakout season in Arthur Smith's TE friendly offense and quiet the haters who have been saying we should have selected Creed Humphrey instead.

How? Tomlin is not capable of developing anyone. If anything,Pat will throw couches off the balcony and not pay his yard guy. And it will be all Tomlin AND Bens fault.

Post your cartoons please

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[86WARD]

[hawaiiansteeler]

Nick Farabaugh
@FarabaughFB

The Steelers have moved Pat Freiermuth all around the formation. Out wide, slot, in line. Gets a ton of targets. Clearly an emphasis so far today.

Jul 25, 2024

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