Quarterback Comparisons past 20 games

[Voice of Reason]

Smart move by Tomlin to fix Colbert’s mistake.

Are you finally admitting that this was a move by Tomlin?

[DesertSteel]

Are you finally admitting that this was a move by Tomlin?

You have me confused with someone else. But as far as my take, I think Tomlin and Khan are on the same page and were in agreement about Pickett.

[feltdizz]

On any NFL team, once a player is acquired it's the head coach's job to evaluate that player. Not the owner's job, not the GM's job, but the head coach's. And if after making his evaluation the head coach tells the GM and the owner that he adamantly no longer wants a particular player around, for the GM and owner to refuse to get rid of that player would be the equivalent of them telling the head coach that they no longer believe in him or trust his ability to evaluate. And if that's the case, why would they continue to employ him as head coach? So if the head coach wants to get rid of a particular player, the GM and the owner have no choice but to go along with him unless they want to take the extreme step of firing the head coach. This same dynamic also works in the case where where the head coach adamantly wants to keep a particular player around.

So the bottom line is that if Tomlin wanted Kenny to still be here he would still be here, and only if he didn't want Kenny to be here would Kenny be gone. Nothing was going to be done unless it was something that Mike Tomlin wanted. And if you think it works any differently, you're only fooling yourself.

This is not correct at all. If an owner wants to keep a player, the GM and HC have to work with that player. It happens all the time in the NFL.

Owner has a guy he loves and the head coach knows he can’t do. damn thing about it.

Even Ben admitted the last year he felt like Colbert didn’t want him back, Tomlin kinda wanted him back and Dan Rooney absolutely wanted him back.

Where the hell do you get this idea that the head coach has more influence than the owner?

Power dynamic goes Owner, GM, Head Coach. In that order.

[Mojouw]

This is not correct at all. If an owner wants to keep a player, the GM and HC have to work with that player. It happens all the time in the NFL.

Owner has a guy he loves and the head coach knows he can’t do. damn thing about it.

Even Ben admitted the last year he felt like Colbert didn’t want him back, Tomlin kinda wanted him back and Dan Rooney absolutely wanted him back.

Where the hell do you get this idea that the head coach has more influence than the owner?

Power dynamic goes Owner, GM, Head Coach. In that order.

And when that dynamic gets out of whack...the owner usually starts firing people...

[Voice of Reason]

Where the hell do you get this idea that the head coach has more influence than the owner?

Power dynamic goes Owner, GM, Head Coach. In that order.

I already explained that. It's the head coach's job to evaluate the players, not the owner's. That's what the owner is paying him to do. As people here have told me time and time again, the head coach is the one who sees the players every day, attends all the meetings, sees all the practices. The owner, unless his name is Jerry Jones, does not. But Jones is the exception, maybe the only exception. Most if not all of the other owners are not involved with the day to day operation of their teams. I don't know where you get the idea that they are. They hire head coaches and GM's to do that for them. And therefore they are not involved with 99% of the personnel decisions that happen.

Now, there may be a rare instance where there is an important player that the owner really likes or dislikes where he may make his opinion known, but even then if the head coach is adamant one way or the other the owner will usually defer to him on the actual decision rather than give him a direct order to do what the head coach doesn't want to do. In such cases if the head coach's decision turns out well then all is fine, but if the decision turns out badly then the owner will express his displeasure by firing the coach. In the vast majority of cases, that is how owners react to disagreements between them and their head coaches rather than trying to step in in the middle of the stream and do the coach's job for him. It's a case of "OK, we'll do it your way, but you better be right" rather than "I'm ordering you to do what you don't want to do". It really is.