Steelers Trade WR Diontae Johnson to Carolina Panthers

[Mojouw]

I was told this was a game changing trade and that he would be an impact player and a huge advantage for the Ratbirds

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He should be. It’s weird he’s not.

I’m honestly starting to believe that some of these guys just can’t learn a playbook in less than 6 months.

[86WARD]

Again, what WR has been traded mid-season and contributed like the media thought they would?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I cant believe that some thought he was going to be the next AB.

[DesertSteel]

Again, what WR has been traded mid-season and contributed like the media thought they would?

Amari Cooper

[86WARD]

Amari Cooper

Not really. 7 receptions in three games.

[DesertSteel]

Not really. 7 receptions in three games.

He was a difference maker last night.

[86WARD]

He was a difference maker last night.

Josh Allen was the difference maker, Shakir and Samuel were more influential in that game. He had one long catch. Regardless, Cooper is not contributing like he did in Cleveland. Not yet. None of these WRs are. Sure. Play here in there but they aren’t meeting the hype that people put out there for these moves.

[DesertSteel]

Josh Allen was the difference maker, Shakir and Samuel were more influential in that game. He had one long catch. Regardless, Cooper is not contributing like he did in Cleveland. Not yet. None of these WRs are. Sure. Play here in there but they aren’t meeting the hype that people put out there for these moves.

okay

[EzraTank]

He should be. It’s weird he’s not.

I’m honestly starting to believe that some of these guys just can’t learn a playbook in less than 6 months.

Why? I mean he majored in interdisciplinary studies at the University of Toledo (I'm not making that up, I Googled it).

Here is how the inter-webs describes "interdisciplinary studies":

Interdisciplinary study is a method of learning that combines knowledge and methods from multiple fields to create new approaches and solutions. It can be applied to research, education, and other areas.

How is this even a viable college major? Maybe he didn't get to the part that learned the methods to learn an NFL playbook or how to run forward after a catch?

[polamalubeast]

[polamalubeast]

[86WARD]

What happened with DJ and Harbaugh that he’s not playing?

If they releases him, I wonder if Pittsburgh would re-sign him.

[polamalubeast]

Crazy how many WR drafted by the steelers are diva like crazy or have some off-fields issues or both

I mean,Buress,Holmes,AB,Claypool,Martavis Bryant,Diontae Johnson,Pickens.....Maybe this is not just a steelers thing and this is some bad luck with that but this is just crazy!

[86WARD]

Crazy how many WR drafted by the steelers are diva like crazy or have some off-fields issues or both

I mean,Buress,Holmes,AB,Claypool,Martavis Bryant,Diontae Johnson,Pickens.....Maybe this is not just a steelers thing and this is some bad luck with that but this is just crazy!

They were all worth the draft pick too…lol

[tube517]

Crazy how many WR drafted by the steelers are diva like crazy or have some off-fields issues or both

I mean,Buress,Holmes,AB,Claypool,Martavis Bryant,Diontae Johnson,Pickens.....Maybe this is not just a steelers thing and this is some bad luck with that but this is just crazy!

Notice how most of them declined after leaving the Steelers. Burress went on to get a ring.in new York. Claypool isn't even on a team

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[polamalubeast]

Notice how most of them declined after leaving the Steelers. Burress went on to get a ring.in new York. Claypool isn't even on a team

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True for Burress but after that he shoot himself in the foot!!!!!

[ShadesOfSteel1172]

True for Burress but after that he shoot himself in the foot!!!!!

Literally shot himself in the ass lol

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[hawaiiansteeler]

The Panthers have been much better since DJ left and the Ratbirds haven't been as good since he has arrived.

Not a coincidence.

[DesertSteel]

The Panthers have been much better since DJ left and the Ratbirds haven't been as good since he has arrived.

Not a coincidence.

I think Jackson has more interceptions than DJ had catches.

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He has ONE catch in 5 games with the Ravens.

[Mojouw]

It is fun to make fun of DJ.

But he seems to be part of a larger trend....mid season WR acquisitions basically do nothing.

Here is probably the best WR traded this year....and that is not an impressive stat line: https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2024/

I have no idea why these guys can not get into an new offense during the season....but there seems to be something "missing" without a full off-season program.

[polamalubeast]

It is fun to make fun of DJ.

But he seems to be part of a larger trend....mid season WR acquisitions basically do nothing.

Here is probably the best WR traded this year....and that is not an impressive stat line: https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2024/

I have no idea why these guys can not get into an new offense during the season....but there seems to be something "missing" without a full off-season program.

Timing and chemistry with the QB matters big time for a receiver

[Craic]

Why? I mean he majored in interdisciplinary studies at the University of Toledo (I'm not making that up, I Googled it).

Here is how the inter-webs describes "interdisciplinary studies":

How is this even a viable college major? Maybe he didn't get to the part that learned the methods to learn an NFL playbook or how to run forward after a catch?

Depending on how it is put together, interdisciplinary studies can be a fantastic major. For instance, putting together anthropology, religion, and history to study 20th century Marxism in Central and South America. My field is pretty much all disciplinary studies as it includes philology, archeology, sociology, and so on.

[DesertSteel]

It is fun to make fun of DJ.

But he seems to be part of a larger trend....mid season WR acquisitions basically do nothing.

Here is probably the best WR traded this year....and that is not an impressive stat line: https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2024/

I have no idea why these guys can not get into an new offense during the season....but there seems to be something "missing" without a full off-season program.

It almost seems pointless to make a midseason trade for a WR.

[Mojouw]

Depending on how it is put together, interdisciplinary studies can be a fantastic major. For instance, putting together anthropology, religion, and history to study 20th century Marxism in Central and South America. My field is pretty much all disciplinary studies as it includes philology, archeology, sociology, and so on.

Agreed. My areas is pretty similar.

College majors are totally miscast when colleges and universities talk to prospective students and potential employers of their graduates about them.

The point of higher education is not to teach you all there is to know about a specific subject - say biology - that is not possible. It is to provide you the tools and skills to learn what you need to know moving forward about anything with a focused background in a specific area (stick with biology in this example).

Most employers are not really going to care what you learned about Biology from Regional University. They are going to teach/train you in what they want you to know how they want you to know it. You just have to be able to pick up the material quickly and proficiently.

My continual frustation is how that message has failed to come through to prospective students, their families, and potential employers. It is currently the single biggest reason for higher ed going broke. College is not specific career training. That is an apprenticeship or a tech school. College is to train you on how to learn. Then you have to apply those skills to a career.

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It almost seems pointless to make a midseason trade for a WR.

It sure does.

Of course, Mike Williams will have 2 TDs in a playoff game now.

[Craic]

It almost seems pointless to make a midseason trade for a WR.

I can see it working if it is bringing in a player that was previously with the team, with the OC on a different team, or with the QB in the previous season or two. Other than that, and outside of injury, I can't imagine there's really enough time to learn all of the routes, hot reads, how everything is labeled, and timing on top of all of that.

Note, for a QB like Ben when he was younger and played a little more sandlot football, it might work. But there's very few QBs who can play that way.

Agreed. My areas is pretty similar.

College majors are totally miscast when colleges and universities talk to prospective students and potential employers of their graduates about them.

The point of higher education is not to teach you all there is to know about a specific subject - say biology - that is not possible. It is to provide you the tools and skills to learn what you need to know moving forward about anything with a focused background in a specific area (stick with biology in this example).

Most employers are not really going to care what you learned about Biology from Regional University. They are going to teach/train you in what they want you to know how they want you to know it. You just have to be able to pick up the material quickly and proficiently.

My continual frustation is how that message has failed to come through to prospective students, their families, and potential employers. It is currently the single biggest reason for higher ed going broke. College is not specific career training. That is an apprenticeship or a tech school. College is to train you on how to learn. Then you have to apply those skills to a career.

Should probably take this offline so as not to hijack this thread, but what you mention is true of liberal arts universities. Other universities, however, are very much "career training" schools. In fact, my school chooses its majors based almost purely on the projected job market. While there are some big downsides to that, it also has helped our school be one of the most financial stable schools in the country... including hiring professors during Covid (not replacing, actually hiring more).

[Mojouw]

I can see it working if it is bringing in a player that was previously with the team, with the OC on a different team, or with the QB in the previous season or two. Other than that, and outside of injury, I can't imagine there's really enough time to learn all of the routes, hot reads, how everything is labeled, and timing on top of all of that.

Note, for a QB like Ben when he was younger and played a little more sandlot football, it might work. But there's very few QBs who can play that way.

Should probably take this offline so as not to hijack this thread, but what you mention is true of liberal arts universities. Other universities, however, are very much "career training" schools. In fact, my school chooses its majors based almost purely on the projected job market. While there are some big downsides to that, it also has helped our school be one of the most financial stable schools in the country... including hiring professors during Covid (not replacing, actually hiring more).

Agreed. My word choice in previous post was too specific to my geographical area. What you’re describing is a “tech school “ here - regardless of specific areas of study offered.

That’s the other big issue. Too confusing for students and employers to understand what each school really is positioning itself as. Need standardized terms for whole country.

And before anyone gets too excited, it is not that kind of liberal.

And I’ll have you know, sir, that I’ve never hijacked a thread.

Honestly, either coaches need to teach better or players need to learn better. Or I don’t fully grasp how much there is to learn.

[ALLD]

He is playing like he still plays as a double agent for the Steelers!

[DesertSteel]

Harbaugh hinted today that DJ might get released. The CBA would allow him to be picked up by the Steelers. Do you want him for peanuts?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Harbaugh hinted today that DJ might get released. The CBA would allow him to be picked up by the Steelers. Do you want him for peanuts?

[El Kabong]

I'll second that nope.